The Most Powerful Army That You've Never Heard Of

[SQ8]

"That you have never heard of". The two authors are not Arabs either and the article was written in Business Insider which has nothing to do with Arabs either.

Yes, the same Arabs created 3 of the 10 largest empires in the world. More than any other ethnic group in the top 10. Your ethnicity is probably not even in the top 100 in comparison.

You did not really read the article did you?

Only people with no logical ability would compare a country of 30 million people with one of almost 200 million people that has been at war for decades. Try comparing the US with Nepal next time.

Those people of those countries were not cleaning the boots of British people like your ancestors were. In fact since you are obviously obsessed about master and servant then you most know who is master and who is slave in the GCC vis a vis Arabs and Indians.

You are welcome.

Are there not multiple ethnicities within Arabs themselves? And why the off topic post when you could just report it?
You are like someone who cried wolf after being one themselves. That will only have you boxed in with those getting off topic warnings.

 

[metronome]

"That you have never heard of". The two authors are not Arabs either and the article was written in Business Insider which has nothing to do with Arabs either.

Yes, the same Arabs created 3 of the 10 largest empires in the world. More than any other ethnic group in the top 10. Your ethnicity is probably not even in the top 100 in comparison.

You did not really read the article did you?

Only people with no logical ability would compare a country of 30 million people with one of almost 200 million people that has been at war for decades. Try comparing the US with Nepal next time.

Those people of those countries were not cleaning the boots of British people like your ancestors were. In fact since you are obviously obsessed about master and servant then you most know who is master and who is slave in the GCC vis a vis Arabs and Indians.

You are welcome.

why are you so obsessed with ethnicity ?

ancestors is history, bro.. get with the times, you live in a medieval style theocracy full of people who support ISIS

anyway, lets not get personal here

back on topic, the most powerful armed forces you haven't heard of ? .. myanmar possibly, not the UAE, how can you count a country as powerful when they're not allowed a foreign policy or their own ?

the Turks got balls scuttling NATO plans and keeping national interest top of their priority list.. the UAE, Qatar, and you Sauds for that matter, are not allowed an independent foreign policy.. that means 0 "power"

 

[atatwolf]

The title is a bit sensationalist from the Business Insider. The UAE is improving into a well equipped military force that will eventually form into a strong well knit unit. They might be able to compete with Israel in the sense that their military model may mirror that of Israel.. however the Israelis are a very well established, well led.. and generally well trained(with varying morale among the conscripts) and have a strong military history to back them up with a big foundation The old adage of troop strength is NOT the appropriate gauge for the 21st century.

Today's military is measured in equipment and sophistication of equipment along with training. Within that contrast the UAEAF for e.g. is much better equipped than the Iranians through and through.

I seriously doubt that. They can have oil and hence money but money doesn't buy everything. I don't want to go into details.

 

[INDIC]

The title is a bit sensationalist from the Business Insider. The UAE is improving into a well equipped military force that will eventually form into a strong well knit unit. They might be able to compete with Israel in the sense that their military model may mirror that of Israel.. however the Israelis are a very well established, well led.. and generally well trained(with varying morale among the conscripts) and have a strong military history to back them up with a big foundation The old adage of troop strength is NOT the appropriate gauge for the 21st century.

Today's military is measured in equipment and sophistication of equipment along with training. Within that contrast the UAEAF for e.g. is much better equipped than the Iranians through and through.

UAE is still a tiny country with a small population, that is their constraint even with a rich economy. There are many small countries in Europe also with a vibrant economy but no military might.

 

[metronome]

singapore

 

[Donatello]

Kya hai yeh bakwas?

 

[al-Hasani]

why are you so obsessed with ethnicity ?

ancestors is history, bro.. get with the times, you live in a medieval style theocracy full of people who support ISIS

anyway, lets not get personal here

back on topic, the most powerful armed forces you haven't heard of ? .. myanmar possibly, not the UAE, how can you count a country as powerful when they're not allowed a foreign policy or their own ?

the Turks got balls scuttling NATO plans and keeping national interest top of their priority list.. the UAE, Qatar, and you Sauds for that matter, are not allowed an independent foreign policy.. that means 0 "power"

You were the one that started talking about Arabs which are a ethnic group.

It's not my problem that you cannot accept historical facts. So continue the crying. I countered your nonsense successfully.

Understand that this is a title of a article (FFS) written by two authors. Not Arabs and that this article was posted in Business Insider a well-respected media that again has nothing to do with Arabs although there are probably some Arab investors like almost everywhere nowadays.
The title of the article is their (the two authors) subjective opinion. Where have you seen me saying that the UAE is the most powerful army, LOL? Nowhere.

LOL. Turkey follows what the West says as well. They were forced to send supplies to the same Kurdish groups that have killed 30.000 Turks. Try harder next time.

KSA and the other countries that you have mentioned do what suits them the best. ISIS is a threat against every country in the region. For instance UAE and Turkey which have a big tourism sector are only 2-3 bombings from losing millions in revenue due to that.

 

[SQ8]

I seriously doubt that. They can have oil and hence money but money doesn't buy everything.

Money may not. But the Arab kingdoms have realized that they need to have their own local population as a trained workforce and not rely on foreign assistance for basic survival. This comes from the growing reality that any mercenary help or foreign workforce is likely to rebel.. and that a generally lazy local population that only lives off benefits is going to end up being a burden for their fiefdoms. The local Bedouin and others alike need to be brought into the 21st Century, educated and their attitudes changed. These people are loyal to the royals but loyalty is pointless if they were useless.

The Saudis took the first step but had initial troubles because of a lack of personal interest by most royals with the training and discipline within the miltiary. Today they Saudi princes take active participation and much more down to earth with their ethnic groups...that ensures that the military recruits from their local indigenous population feels more connected to the rulers and is willing to be a well trained and well led fighting force.

 

[SQ8]

No, those empires were created and ruled by Arabs from Hijaz. Besides all of today's Arabs are Semites.

No, it's your moderation that is biased. You are leaving obvious troll posts here and then you are wondering why I am countering them.



Are people blind? It says the most powerful army "THAT YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF". Which makes it not so sensationalist again.

Nowhere in the article does it say that it's the most powerful. Only clowns read it like that.

I am warning you the last time to watch your language or you will be banned from the forum. Then you may whine about bias against Arabs/Wahabbis or Beduoins all you want elsewhere. Learn to debate with proper language or find yourself isolated very quickly.

The title IS sensationalist. The Business Insider says "The most powerful Army you have never heard of".. The adjective most means it ranks very high .. but does not mention in which context.. the world? the Middle east? Where.. hence the title is sensationalist by all defintion.

 

[Donatello]

UAE is still a tiny country with a small population, that is their constraint even with a rich economy. There are many small countries in Europe also with a vibrant economy but no military might.

Wrong comparison. The reason most nations in Europe don't want big militaries is because they are sick and tired of wars. Before 1945 (end of WWII) go back 1000 years or so, all the Europeans have is war war and more war. Then some more local skirmishes and then some more war. Europe was always changing it's face.

They are a mature bunch, they don't want war and as such don't want to spend money. They know they have to cater for their well developed social structure.

In case of UAE, they have all the money, maybe not oil money, but it is a new tax haven and prime destination for services sector. So they have enough money to spend. Their toys are because they can get them. They don't need those to fight Iran. If shyt hits the fan, Saudis and Pakistanis would be more than happy to help. Iran is poorly outdated. GCC nations would have no trouble doing air campaigns over them and forcing Iranians into submission. I mean, you really think Saudis with their Typhoons/F15s/Tornados are going to sit idle while Iran goes on an adventure?

NOPE NOPE.

 

[atatwolf]

Money may not. But the Arab kingdoms have realized that they need to have their own local population as a trained workforce and not rely on foreign assistance for basic survival. This comes from the growing reality that any mercenary help or foreign workforce is likely to rebel.. and that a generally lazy local population that only lives off benefits is going to end up being a burden for their fiefdoms. The local Bedouin and others alike need to be brought into the 21st Century, educated and their attitudes changed. These people are loyal to the royals but loyalty is pointless if they were useless.

The Saudis took the first step but had initial troubles because of a lack of personal interest by most royals with the training and discipline within the miltiary. Today they Saudi princes take active participation and much more down to earth with their ethnic groups...that ensures that the military recruits from their local indigenous population feels more connected to the rulers and is willing to be a well trained and well led fighting force.

We Turks couldn't teach that to the Arabs in 800 years. Good luck to the Saudi royals but I'm sceptical.

 

[thesolar65]

You are trolling just like the Indians ! @al-Hasani I think these Pakistanis are behaving like the damn Indians here

Just tell the truth. Are you smiling or laughing while typing this reply and getting thanks??

 

[Serpentine]

Money may not. But the Arab kingdoms have realized that they need to have their own local population as a trained workforce and not rely on foreign assistance for basic survival. This comes from the growing reality that any mercenary help or foreign workforce is likely to rebel.. and that a generally lazy local population that only lives off benefits is going to end up being a burden for their fiefdoms. The local Bedouin and others alike need to be brought into the 21st Century, educated and their attitudes changed. These people are loyal to the royals but loyalty is pointless if they were useless.

The Saudis took the first step but had initial troubles because of a lack of personal interest by most royals with the training and discipline within the miltiary. Today they Saudi princes take active participation and much more down to earth with their ethnic groups...that ensures that the military recruits from their local indigenous population feels more connected to the rulers and is willing to be a well trained and well led fighting force.

I think the best way to evaluate an army is to see it in a war, other things, especially equipment may become irrelevant with low morale, bad training and etc, as in the case of IS offensive in Iraq. So UAE may have fancy equipment, but we can only judge on their military might in a possible war scenario, and that's the case for every single army in the world.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Just tell the truth. Are you smiling or laughing while typing this reply and getting thanks??

You go right ahead and guess

 

[al-Hasani]

Money may not. But the Arab kingdoms have realized that they need to have their own local population as a trained workforce and not rely on foreign assistance for basic survival. This comes from the growing reality that any mercenary help or foreign workforce is likely to rebel.. and that a generally lazy local population that only lives off benefits is going to end up being a burden for their fiefdoms. The local Bedouin and others alike need to be brought into the 21st Century, educated and their attitudes changed. These people are loyal to the royals but loyalty is pointless if they were useless.

The Saudis took the first step but had initial troubles because of a lack of personal interest by most royals with the training and discipline within the miltiary. Today they Saudi princes take active participation and much more down to earth with their ethnic groups...that ensures that the military recruits from their local indigenous population feels more connected to the rulers and is willing to be a well trained and well led fighting force.

The subtile trolling is poor.

The GCC has experienced a rapid growth and a building boom not seen in many other places in the history of mankind outside of maybe what is going on in China now and what happened in the Wild West when the first settlers arrived. Or the "New World" in general. At a extremely quick rate moreover.

Obviously in small countries such as Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and UAE with very small populations (especially 100-50 years back) the locals needed help like any other country in a similar situation to make that jump. It's completely natural.

You have totally misunderstood the core of how GCC societies work. Most people respect the monarchies because the societies are rich, stable, there is a social net on certain fronts better than the one seen in top welfare states in Scandinavia and people are not even paying taxes. They are very much pampered. Especially in countries such as Kuwait, Qatar and UAE. Look at the GDP per capita of those countries. They are the richest in the world.

Moreover the monarchies rule mostly under Islamic law or are influenced greatly by it which the vast majority of the locals like as they are practicing Muslims.

Now you tell me why people should rebel? No reason for that other than wanting more political rights which is an ongoing process and the new generation also demands this by large. The societies are also very young. 66% or so are under the age of 40.

People have loyalties to their countries. Not rulers who come and go. For someone that has apparently lived in KSA for years (maybe ages ago) it is shocking that you seem not to understand those basics.

If you are doubtful then ask all the other users from the GCC here and they will tell you the same.

Self-reliance is also a natural process and is ongoing and there is nothing wrong with this either. Nor will this be stopped by butthurt foreigners.

The small GCC states are the most powerful compared to their size and populations in the world outside of states such as Singapore. That's a fact and this obviously bothers a lot of people. Instead of praising the correct steps that countries like UAE have taken and their growth on all fronts we have people here who are crying or trolling. As expected anyway.

10 million big UAE has a bigger economy than 80 million big Iran across the Gulf despite the later having more natural resources and despite UAE being on a self-imposed sanction regime of their own due to some stupid rules. Most evident in KSA of all GCC states. That's just facts.