The atrocities in the 1971 civil war

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  1. AgNoStiC MuSliM
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    Do not cast aspersions on the faith of someone.

    This is a matter only between a Muslim and his God - man has no business making these claims and passing judgment.
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    STOP accusing others of being dishonest about their identity. Just because some people disagree with you is no reason to engage in personal attacks.

    Address the arguments, not the origin of the poster.
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    Given that Mujib himself revised that number several times, I'd say that a lot more needs to be done to determine the true events that occurred in 1971.
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    Well the there was not RACIAL ABUSION BY THE PAK ARMY but it was the American Media who posed it like that because Pakistan is a Aryan country and Pak is mixed . And they discribed there army people to be lighter. But our people are in same coloured as North Indians. And the Indian Army Men where also Light Skinned.

    Agnostic truth can be found and soon there will be TRUTH EXPOSED!
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    buddy, I want the stuff that you've been smoking/snorting. Please...
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    Take a chill pill, calm down and easy on the bold. We get the point that whatever you say is of utmost importance. From now onwards your name will be enough reason to read the post as if written in bold. It'll be slightly easy on the eyes still being no less important.

    Now first use the kind language that your religion preaches and also stick to the basic principals of not harbouring hatred for any religion before chanting Islamic prayers.

    Also try and comprehend a complete sentence before you start typing. That would definitely improve the quality of your posts and arguments.
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    you keep you views with you , tribunal will take care of each war criminal during 1971..
    govt will not hasitate even moving to UN on this issue ..
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    Trust me Pakistan does not give a **** about your war crime thing.Move it to UN.What can you do?India could not do anything about Mumbai attacks and do you honestly believe that we will do anything for BD?We will have a couldnt-care-less attitude.
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    There is a misconception of war crime tribunal and people getting upset about it. It was about individual crime and nothing against Pakistan. When we put Bangladeshi before the tribunal, does that mean the whole Bangladesh going before it??? Most of the people we will be trying are Bangladeshi and few big wigs (still not decided) from PK ex army. It would be great if Pakistan people support the cause and make themselves worthy of a civilized culture.

    By saying individual crime, I also like to add that, this way we will kill a certain stereotyped ideology which is pulling both of our nation backward.
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    I gave the figure which Bangladesh authorities claim.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_atrocities

    Also in this article.

    May be more needs to be done to investigate what happened back in 1971. But I was just countering denial mode of one of the posters who referred to them as traitors. And the original poster, needless to say, in on a ranting spree trying to prove something against India out of something he calls his 'research'.
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    ok firstly the reason why EUROPE has developed is because the FRENCH & GERMANS & ITALIANS sat together let the past stay in the past and moved on.....while as for SOUTH ASIA....


    we still hold grudges against each other....the only country who i think has no issues with any other is SRI LANKA....they are equally liked by BANGALDESH,PAKISTAN,INDIA.....i guess its time to bury the crap and MOVE ON....


    so what will the bangladeshis get if we say sorry....do you become rich over night do you get a booming economy...do you become a leading research and development country....do your poor get jobs....

    if they do then i guess you guys should seek APOLOGY...otherwise i guess you guys should just concentrate on making the COUNTRY YOU GOT....better stronger more powerful!!!

    as NAPOLEN once said the VICTORIOUS right the HISTORY....i guess that could be true for 1971...


    so my BANGLADESHI friends try to make the country you got better rather than seek an apology that doesn't change the life of the common man!!!
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    This hoopla about apology by Awami stooges are only to appease indian appetite for division. Its as simple as that.

    In reality there is not much relevance of apology after almost 40 years. This political stunt awami league is playing will not take them anywhere. Besides, these awami ministers have not done anything to show to people since they assumed power 4 months ago. So people in general have much more important things to do than paying attention to awami flip flop indian controlled ministers.

    So let us focus on something meaningful.
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    That is because they found a common ground after the war and they closed the chapter after 1945 regardless of whichever side they were. All the countries have common law which forbids any denial of holocaust. Also all the countries are on the same footing on trying any Nazis who committed inhuman crimes in WW2.

    Agian going back to WW1 when chapter was not closed which only lead to another world war.
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    Exact number is not that important. You kill one person or you kill 1000s, both has the same sentence.. HANG.

    Were there mass killing in 1971- Yes
    Does killing fall in the category of genocide? - Yes
    Does pattern of killing suggest anniliation of certain ethnic and religious group - Yes
    Does those killing done by regular disciplined forces - Yes.
    Was those killing done by the command of higher authorities - yes
    Did mass raping take place- yes

    All above are true and qualify for a judicial process.
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    well, to me (many may not agree to my opinion), the division of india was non-realistic, there should have been atleast 3 countries or maximum 4, (Pakistan including whole jammu and kashmir, India, Bangladesh,Khalistan), this should have been a more realistic division of india, why we forget sikhs all the time? they r neither hindu nor muslims, they are strong enough to maintain themselves as a separate nation, our problem is that we have had some leaders who wanted to live ever after in the memories of their nations by bringing more and more whether or not that belong to their nation, like nehru etc, gandhi however was a bit different, come on men, live and let others live, pakistan is under immense pressure now adays but it doesn't mean it will always remain the same, we will surely come out strong through this crises, the more ur enemies put pressure on you the more they expose their mental filter,tactics,moves to u, if u r a good learner u always learn and use it for the future reference and that we r doing now, as far as war crimes in bangladesh are concerned, if so happened at that scale(which i have doubt about) then its condemnable, and as one of the members said the scale of crime rate doesn't matter one crime is as bad as a thousand, then brothers no army of the world could be free of the charge of war crimes, indian army does it in many states with everyday that passes, US army does it, russians, and it goes on and on and on, just forget about all this and commit yourselves to refrain from such doings in future, whether it be you or me.....
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