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Taliban bans university education for Afghan girls

If these madmen continue to a logical conclusion, it means that no women will ever qualify as doctors or nurses, therefore no women will be able to have medical treatment as they won't be able to be touched by men. Is this what the Taliban really want? Hang on, it probably is omg
This is precisely what happened in 1996. Women could not become medical (or any other) professionals, and women could not be treated by male doctors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_women_by_the_Taliban#Health_care
 
If there are no women doctors graduate in the future (because of the ban), who is going to treat women patients in the future?


If you keep their mothers ignorant, your children will all grow up at least half-ignorant. And every generation this continues will only make it worse.
 

Al-Azhar grand imam calls on Taliban to reconsider university ban for Afghan women​


Amr Kandil , El-Sayed Gamal El-Din , Friday 23 Dec 2022​


Grand Imam of Al-Azhar Ahmed El-Tayyeb has called for the Taliban to reconsider their decision to ban Afghan women from accessing university education, saying the decision contradicts Sharia (Islamic law).

The Grand Imam of Azhar Ahmed El-Tayyeb

The Grand Imam of Azhar Ahmed El-Tayyeb

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“I call upon those in authority in Afghanistan to reconsider their decision, for the truth is more deserving of being followed,” the head Egypt’s top religious authority said in a statement posted in Arabic, English and Pashto on Thursday.
In his message, El-Tayyeb affirmed that banning Afghan women from accessing university education contradicts Sharia and conflicts with its call for both men and women to seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave.
Such call for knowledge among men and women “has produced mighty minds among women along the scientific and political history of Islam,” the statement said.
El-Tayyeb added that the ban overlooked more than 2,000 hadiths (sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) in this regard and also overlooked the historic examples of pioneering women in education, sciences and politics.
The grand imam also rejected the ban on the grounds that the Quran mentions “knowledge,” “reason” and their derivatives more than a hundred times.
“This shocking decision to the conscience of Muslims and non-Muslims alike should not have been issued by any Muslim,” El-Tayyeb stressed.
The grand imam warned Muslims and non-Muslims alike of believing that banning women’s education in acceptable in Islam.
“Islam firmly denounces such banning since it contradicts the legal rights that Islam equally guarantees for women and men. So, claiming otherwise is a fabrication against this valuable religion,” El-Tayyeb affirmed.
Earlier this week, the Taliban banned women from university education and female staff from working in schools, a decision that has sparked international condemnation.
The Taliban also banned girls from primary education, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, which constitutes a total ban on education.
The Taliban’s minister for higher education has defended the decision, saying female students were dressing “like they were going to wedding,” reported AFP.
He also claimed that some of the science subjects are not suitable for them.
The Taliban’s ban on women’s education comes although the group, which returned to power in 2021, has vowed that all citizens would be granted access to education.

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What is this thing about the Egyptian imam trying to convince the Taliban to change their ways ? They won't. A dog will not become cat. Just declare the NATO-seeded Taliban as murtad and call on the Egyptian military, Syrian military, the Algerian one, the PLO, the Russian one and the Central Asian ones to go to Afghanistan and overthrow the Taliban and arrange for progressives like the leftist Solidarity Party of Afghanistan to begin governance. We want to see Afghan females in space, not in burqas.

Only STEM majors should be encouraged all the humanities and social studies degrees are crap money grabbing schemes.

1. "STEM" is such a cringe word.

2. According to you the humanities and social studies are money grabbing schemes, then I must ask you why don't you speak for education to become free ? Secondly, isn't your "STEM" also a money-based exchange and what then has this "STEM" studies in India and Pakistan achieved in the last 75 years of existence of the two countries ? Only yesterday on the Indian quiz show Kaun Banega Crorepati there was a question about what did the first human in space, Yuri Gagarin, eat to celebrate when he reached space ? The answer : chocolate sauce because the chefs who were the special contestants last night said that the other option, sandwich, had the possibility of spoiling and giving Yuri poisoning which was something to be avoided in space and therefore the correct answer was chocolate sauce because it doesn't spoil and it gives energy and nutrients. Now the chefs were not "STEM" yet they correctly deduced the answer. Secondly, Yuri wasn't a desi who studied some useless STEM-PEM-DEM-MEM course in the 600-acre Lovely Professional University, Jalandhar, or at an equivalent Pakistani university. Yuri was from the USSR which was a country that origined in a revolution by people who did humanities and social studies at a real level.

Ey Taliban, don't give a $hit to what others say! Your women, your rules....

Your primary function now is to ensure the "recreational stuffs" production keeps on going up at a steady rate. The "white men" need them more than ever before to cut their nights even shorter to bypass the tribulation, and they're willing to pay top $s for that....

"Your women" ? Who gave idiots like you the right to own women or any person ? If you are so desirous of keeping chattel then I have a wonderful suggestion for you : you and your bacha baz Taliban buddies can go to a toy store, pick dolls of humans including of females and cloth them in shuttlecock burqas or the recent Indian burqas and do whatever with them.

When Afghan women themselves are protesting against the Taliban, in the terror kingdom of the Taliban, you come and say "O Taliban, your women, your rules" ? :lol:

Listen, Mr. Hakikat Cringey Name, you and your Taliban mullah buddies can have as many ghey orgies as you want but please do not claim ownership of anyone else. Anyone else. You are not really being Islamic when you say that but being Hindutvadi. The next PM candidate for India from the BJP is Yogi Adityanath who has openly said that a female first is in the ownership of her father, then of her husband and then of her son, never to be independent as that would be destructive. Yogi is you and the Taliban and every mullah.

This is precisely what happened in 1996. Women could not become medical (or any other) professionals, and women could not be treated by male doctors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_women_by_the_Taliban#Health_care

Why are you in this thread ? :) You support Hindutvadi rule in India but you oppose Taliban in Afghanistan ?
 
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Women are better students than men in average.

Talibans must be afraid of humiliation by smarter women than them.
 
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Afghan educator who quit over women ban vows to fight


AFP
December 31, 2022



<p>Ismail Mashal, a lecturer of journalism at three universities, speaks during an interview with AFP in Kabul on Dec 30. — AFP</p>


Ismail Mashal, a lecturer of journalism at three universities, speaks during an interview with AFP in Kabul on Dec 30. — AFP

An Afghan academic who caused a storm by quitting and tearing up his degree certificates on live television to protest the ban on women in universities has vowed to fight the order “even if it costs my life”.

Ismail Mashal, a lecturer in journalism for more than a decade at three universities in Kabul, shred his qualifications and resigned from the institutions after the ban was issued this month.

“I’m raising my voice. I’m standing with my sisters […] My protest will continue even if it costs my life,” Mashal, 35, told AFP at his office in the Afghan capital.

“As a man and as a teacher, I was unable to do anything else for them, and I felt that my certificates had become useless. So, I tore them.”

Footage of his outburst on Tuesday on TOLOnews — a leading private television channel — went viral on social media, leading to criticism by some supporters of Afghanistan’s Taliban authorities.

In the deeply conservative and patriarchal society, it is rare to see a man protest in support of women, but Mashal said he would stand up for women’s rights.

“In a society where books and pens are snatched away from mothers and sisters, it will only lead to crimes, poverty, and humiliation,” he said.

Authorities say the ban on women attending university was imposed because they were not observing a strict Islamic dress code.

But Mashal, who also runs an educational institute for men and women, dismissed that justification.

“They told us to implement the wearing of hijabs for women — we did that. They told us to segregate classes — we did that too,” he said, dressed in a black suit.

“The Taliban have so far not given any logical reason for the ban, which is affecting about 20 million girls.”

‘God-given right’​

The ban had no basis in Islamic sharia law, he added.

“The right to education for women has been given by God, by the Quran, by the Prophet (Muhammad PBUH), and our religion,” said Mashal as he held religious books.

“So, why should we look down on women?” he added.

While the Taliban promised a softer regime when they returned to power in August last year, they have instead imposed harsh restrictions on women — effectively squeezing them out of public life.

Last week, authorities also ordered all aid groups to stop women employees from coming to work.

Secondary schools for girls have been closed for over a year, while many women have lost jobs in government and are being paid a fraction of their salary to stay home.

Women have also been barred from going to parks, gyms and public baths. They are blocked from travelling without a close male relative and must cover up in public.

“In my view, we are becoming regressive,” said Mashal, whose wife lost her job as a teacher after the Taliban returned.

He is worried for his daughter, who is in sixth grade, the last year of primary school, after which the ban on education takes effect.

“I don’t know how to tell her to stop studying after grade six,” he said. “What crime has she committed?” he asked.
 
I am against banning women not to go to university.
Its kind of stupid.


But then again I'm not living in Afghanistan, so I don't know what is going on there.

The Afghan Taliban better have a good explanation for this.
 
“I don’t know how to tell her to stop studying after grade six,” he said. “What crime has she committed?” he asked.

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I am against banning women not to go to university.
Its kind of stupid.

But then again I'm not living in Afghanistan, so I don't know what is going on there.

The Afghan Taliban better have a good explanation for this.

Do you need to orbit the Sun 2000 kilometers above to know that it is hot instead of knowing that from Earth ? What explanation will the Taliban give you other than :

The rules would mean punishments for a woman's male guardian​

The directive on the clothing of women and pubescent girls came from the Taliban's acting minister for the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice, a known hard-liner, Khaled Hanafi.

"We want our sisters to live with dignity and safety," he said.
Is it not more than enough for you to watch Afghan females kick and burn the burqa and take out marches protesting against closure of schooling for them and they declaring that the Taliban will even stop them from breathing ?

Here :

‘Taliban turning our country into a jail for women’: Afghan students tell TNM​

Afghan women are also finding it difficult to migrate as most countries have stopped providing visas for students from the country.

Afghan women protesting
NEWS AFGHANISTAN WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 28, 2022 - 15:33

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More than a year after the Taliban regained control of Afghanistan after the chaotic exit of US troops, the regime has failed to keep up with their promises of guaranteeing equal rights for women in education and other spheres of public life in the country. From barring girls from attending schools to banning them from leaving the house without a male escort to the recent ban on higher education, the Taliban, in the words of journalist-activist Roya Musawi, is eliminating women from every aspect of social life in Afghanistan.

For most people back home in India, the series of events taking place in Afghanistan may appear to be straight out of a Khaled Hosseini novel but for women like Roya Musawi, Sediqa Mubariz or Fatima Frutan, who had to flee their homes to countries like Pakistan and Spain, this nightmare is part of their ongoing reality.
Speaking to TNM, 22-year-old Sediqa Mubariz, who was a student of Kabul University in Afghanistan, said that ever since the Taliban took over the reins of the country, there have been rampant violations of human rights and human dignity, especially the violation of women’s rights. “Apart from barring women from attending schools, participation in clubs and other organisations were also banned. We don’t even have the right to choose the type of clothes or its colour. Those who raised their voice for freedom were persecuted and punished in different ways, and unfortunately, a few days ago, even the doors of the university were closed to Afghan women,” said Sediqa, who is currently residing in Pakistan.

While thousands of Afghan women, like Sediqa, fled to countries like Pakistan and Albania, several other women are finding it difficult to migrate as most countries have stopped providing visas for Afghan students. “Governments of other countries announced many programs in the media, but in practice, not enough visas have been issued to Afghan women. Even if they are issuing visas, it is only for a small number of people,” Sadiqa told TNM.

Roya Musawi, an Afghan journalist and activist, who is currently residing in Spain, told TNM that even if women do get visas from other countries, it’s difficult to leave the country. “According to the rules set by the Taliban, if a woman has to get out of their homes, they have to be accompanied by a man – either their husband, father or brother. Recently, I spoke to a woman who was planning to leave for Brazil. But when she reached Kabul airport, Taliban officials tore her ticket and she was not allowed to board the flight as she was not accompanied by a man,” said Roya.

‘No future for women’​

With education and job opportunities being denied, it’s not just the women who suffer, but thousands of Afghan families, who depend on the woman of their house for their survival. Roya points out that if the current regime continues, a part of the community will be paralysed in the long run. “In the future, we won’t have any women in any sphere in public life and this increases the scope of poverty. Families who lost men in the various conflicts over the last 20 years, depend on women for their survival. These families are losing out on their breadwinner if women are being jailed inside their homes,” said Roya.

Fatima Frutan, an Afghan journalist, who has been residing in Islamabad for the last one year said no international organisation is speaking up for Afghan women. Fatima, who is waiting to hear from the Netherlands embassy, says that Afghan women are going through the darkest days of their lives. “Women are imprisoned in their homes. Every day, we hear reports about women being flogged by the Taliban and tried on the streets of Afghanistan for mere allegations of crimes they committed,” she said.

Resistance​

While women are being severely oppressed in the country, some are not willing to back down without a fight. After the Taliban banned women from universities, on December 21, several women took to the streets in Kabul to protest against the Taliban. Speaking to BBC news, a female student was quoted as saying, “They destroyed the only bridge that could connect me with my future. How can I react? I believed that I could study and change my future or bring the light to my life but they destroyed it.”
 
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Do you need to orbit the Sun 2000 kilometers above to know that it is hot instead of knowing that from Earth ? What explanation will the Taliban give you other than :

Is it not more than enough for you to watch Afghan females kick and burn the burqa and take out marches protesting against closure of schooling for them and they declaring that the Taliban will even stop them from breathing ?

Here :
You shouldn't talk about Islam, especially when you claim to believe in a reformed version of Islam.
 
I am against banning women not to go to university.
Its kind of stupid.


But then again I'm not living in Afghanistan, so I don't know what is going on there.

The Afghan Taliban better have a good explanation for this.
We all know what happens in Pakistani universities in the name of education. I can only hope they are against this debauchery and not against actual education
 

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