Shahed-136 - Tracking usage & expanding understanding.

[Han Patriot]

now i'm 100% sure that shahed is a game changer.

It's effective but it's not gonna work? Wtf is this conflicting statement. The thing is the drones are so cheap, the CRAM is goiing to be way more expensive. Its like killing mosquitoes with a rifle. Lolol

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

now i'm 100% sure that shahed is a game changer.

C-RAM probably won't work either and for a very simple reason which I'll comment if they indeed fail against the Iranian-made UASs.

 

[BHAN85]

Won't this method be rendered null and void if they replace the two-stroke engine with a quieter electric one?

But the engine is not Iranian made, so maybe it's not cheap for them to replace.

The key of those drones is the price, they are not the best, but certainly they are the cheaper that can move a heavy weigh warhead.

Anyway a radar can detect a flying object much before and precisely than the noisest drone through audio sounds.

The problem from a radar point of view is: Shaheds are small and fly low.

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

But the engine is not Iranian made, so maybe it's not cheap for them to replace.

The key of those drones is the price, they are not the best, but certainly they are the cheaper that can move a heavy weigh warhead.

Anyway a radar can detect a flying object much before and precisely than the noisest drone through audio sounds.

The problem from a radar point of view is: Shaheds are small and fly low.

There's an Iranian reverse-engineered copy of both this engine and electric ones too. I don't think it would be that much of a problem, only the expense might rise slightly for russia.

 

[BHAN85]

Everything ingenious is simple.

Anyone know why Shahed-136 was renamed to Geran-2?

Тегеран means -> Tehran, pronounced Tegeran

It's named after Tehran

Did I get that right?
@Navigator

Because Russia is not recognising oficially Iranian as drone supplier.

From a Russia official point of view: Geran-2 are Russian made drones and it has nothing to do with Iran (they dont want more Western sanctions I guess )

And they are lying as they usually do.

There's an Iranian reverse-engineered copy of both this engine and electric ones too. I don't think it would be that much of a problem, only the expense might rise slightly for russia.

Maybe change the engine is easy.
But change the energy source is not.

How a drone will get energy enough to fly hundreds miles without burn fuel? And if you generate electric energy from fuel, the drone will be noisy too and with less space for the warhead.

 

[BlessedKingOfLonging]

Maybe change the engine is easy.
But change the energy source is not.

How a drone will get energy enough to fly hundreds miles without burn fuel? And if you generate electric energy from fuel, the drone will be noisy too and with less space for the warhead.

Hm, @Hack-Hook, what do you think?

 

[Raghfarm007]

now i'm 100% sure that shahed is a game changer.

You just need to watch this news piece to realise why the average American is such a dumbass... they talk to people like they are retarde children.

 

[aziqbal]

How exactly does this drone work ?

Is there a ground station where the operator flys this thing and then when a target appears they go for the hit

Or does this thing work fully autonomously ? With a preprogrammed destination ?

If a operator is needed then a swarm would be difficult you would need 1000s of ground stations

 

[Muhammed45]

How exactly does this drone work ?

Is there a ground station where the operator flys this thing and then when a target appears they go for the hit

Or does this thing work fully autonomously ? With a preprogrammed destination ?

If a operator is needed then a swarm would be difficult you would need 1000s of ground stations

Don't forget, Russia still has one of the best satellites in the world.

A combination of satellite images and UCAVs can Guide a suicide drone to its target. A drone flying in a Preprogrammed path can be jammed, not a good option.

 

[BHAN85]

Don't forget, Russia still has one of the best satellites in the world.

A combination of satellite images and UCAVs can Guide a suicide drone to its target. A drone flying in a Preprogrammed path can be jammed, not a good option.

They have so good satellites that they dont have a clue when the West smuggles weapons through Ukraine border.

How exactly does this drone work ?

Is there a ground station where the operator flys this thing and then when a target appears they go for the hit

Or does this thing work fully autonomously ? With a preprogrammed destination ?

If a operator is needed then a swarm would be difficult you would need 1000s of ground stations

It doesnt have cameras.

Just inertial guidance, and glonass. So why a operator? it can be written target position before the launch.

But this thread says that another more advanced drones could guide the shahed-136 through a data link.

 

[Muhammed45]

They have so good satellites that they dont have a clue when the West smuggles weapons through Ukraine border.

There are tactics to deceive the best of staellites. It is not hard to send weapons under civilian cover.

 

[BHAN85]

There are tactics to deceive the best of staellites. It is not hard to send weapons under civilian cover.

Then Russia should send advanced weapons to Mexican narcos.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Hm, @Hack-Hook, what do you think?

not hard , let look at army drones like omid , it seems they use electric engine and we produce various type of batteries

 

[BHAN85]

not hard , let look at army drones like omid and Arash , it seems they use electric engine and we produce various type of batteries

Lithium batteries for just one use in a suicide drone? that's a suicide budget.

And even in that case it has less energy density than fuel.

 

[shadihassan28]

Lithium batteries for just one use in a suicide drone? that's a suicide budget.

And even in that case it has less energy density than fuel.

Hey don’t knock it if it works, one thing iran has shown their drones are capable