Pakistan Navy Questions Thread

[Incog_nito]

Does more F22 P like frigates in the current scenario will help PN to overcome the situation that's arising in Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf, and especially in the Indian Ocean near to Pakistan?

Like, 4 F22P aren't enough, and getting new corvettes and aircraft's will take 4 to 5 years minimum. So, additional F22P like vessels can help them to boost defense in our waters. And even in areas like the red sea if deployed.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Does more F22 P like frigates in the current scenario will help PN to overcome the situation that's arising in Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf, and especially in the Indian Ocean near to Pakistan?

Like, 4 F22P aren't enough, and getting new corvettes and aircraft's will take 4 to 5 years minimum. So, additional F22P like vessels can help them to boost defense in our waters. And even in areas like the red sea if deployed.

If by "F-22P-like" you mean build more F-22Ps, then it'll still take 4-5 years minimum. But if you mean trying to buy China's old Type 053H3, then the PN could look into that, yes.

 

[Incog_nito]

If by "F-22P-like" you mean build more F-22Ps, then it'll still take 4-5 years minimum. But if you mean trying to buy China's old Type 053H3, then the PN could look into that, yes.

I guess Chinese already has 8 of the same type and that all 8 can easily be upgraded with the latest Weapons and systems by China within 2 to 3 years time. Moreover, PN could also later upgraded it's own F22P on the similar latest standards as well. And these ships can prove worthy for the next 10 to 12 years.

I guess PN needs such ships to patrol in these 3 regions:

1. Arabian Sea.
2. Persian Gulf.
3. Indian Ocean region.

For all these 3 group of 4 F22P class would be good enough with 1 tanker support ship in this battle group.

 

[Incog_nito]

Is PN scraping all 6 Type-21s into metal? If yes, then its a wise decision to scrap all old stuff and get some new ones that are up to the mark.

 

[syed_yusuf]

How does pn planning to soldier on type21 and ffg7

 

[Tank131]

How does pn planning to soldier on type21 and ffg7

They dont plan on keeping type 21. They will be retired (cant remember if by MILGEM or Type 054A). Most likely will be stripped of usable stuff like phalanx and either scrapped or scuttled via missile test. As for FFG-7 it is being used as a training ship from my understanding.

 

[fatman17]

Type 21s will be retired once the new Chinese frigates and turkish corvettes are inducted. The ohp will be converted to a training vessel.

How does pn planning to soldier on type21 and ffg7

 

[Incog_nito]

Will PN be ordering another 2 to 4 OPVs from Romania?

 

[syed_yusuf]

PIA getting rid of four aircraft due to expensive lease

Three remaining ATR planes to be operated on short routes.

www.dawn.com

Can PN TAKE them over to be converted to RAS72

 

[Tipu7]

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @PAR 5
How the US imposed sanctions will impact Pakistan's Turkish based defense acquisitions? Particularly the LM2500 Gas Turbines for PN Milgems?

 

[imranyounus]

Avertissement de redirection

With so much going on in PN. One ship which could give PN good defensive capability could be an ocean surveillance ship. PN has at least two but are they capable for detecting submarine and can PN get one of above from China US and Japan have similar ships too.

 

[Incog_nito]

Is PN doing any window shopping for LPDs and LHDs from Europe?

LPDs and LHDs are a very good option and PN needs such expeditionary maritime vessels are quite essential now. As PN conducts operations in the Indian Ocean, the Persian Gulf, and some in Red Sea regions.

 

[ghazi52]

ASW

 

[khanasifm]

So the mystery of 6 additional heavy ship is still not resolved ? Where the order was placed or being placed danish? And what type

So 4x054a/p
4x f22p
4x Turkish
2x or perhaps may be 4x danish opv

is know bringing about 14-16 2000 plus tonnage ships

plus 6 Unknow type is the 20 ship navy mentioned

Jinnah class will put it over 20 or may be maintaining the Numbers

based on history average life of naval ship platform with upgrade capability is~50 years for pn, retiring type 21 built in 70s in 2020ish and keeping it productive with some upgrades newer platforms with growth in mind plus high cost may take it beyond 50

ASW

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Based on French design is very successful asw platform with good range comparing it to older 1 ton allute 3 type in pn vs 4 ton z9

 

[khanasifm]

Milgem will be equiped with 76 mm 76 SR Oto Melara.

Just wanted to know if the gun could be modified for OtoMelara Dart Strales
rounds, or is it already fit for this porpose? this will solve the corvette's CIWS problem and will be very effective in providing protection to its pact "sorry dont know the term".

Even Chinese 76 mm gun on f22p and on 054a provides anti aircraft capability out to 17 km range and anti surface capacity is primary role opt to 16 km

based on russian design but improved ans magazinesize doubled in chines for 100-150 plusrounds compared to 70/80 in Russin version