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FC-1 : le Pakistan voudrait 180 appareils supplémentaires
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By
Henri KENHMANN
28 novembre 2016

Selon la presse locale The Express Tribune, le Pakistan se serait engagé à augmenter le nombre d’avion de combat FC-1 / JF-17 en dotation au sein des forces aériennes pakistanaises (PAF), qui passera de 70 actuellement à 250 dans les quelques années à venir. L’information est dévoilée par l’un des officiers de la PAF présents au Salon IDEAS 2016 qui a eu lieu à Karachi récemment.

Les 50 premiers FC-1 au standard Block I ont tous été livrés avant la fin 2013, à la fois par l’Usine 132 à Chengdu, en Chine, et par le PAC (Pakistan Aeronautical Complex), une entité de production aéronautique pakistanaise localisée à Kamra.


Le radar à AESA KLJ-7A

L’assemblage des appareils du standard Block II, qui seront équipés d’une perche de ravitaillement en vol et d’une nouvelle suite avionique, est actuellement en cours. Une vingtaine d’avions a été produite depuis 2014 sur les 50 de prévu, et tous les premiers avion Block I pourront aussi migrer vers le standard Block II prochainement.

Si l’information selon laquelle un total de 250 FC-1 sera en dotation pour le Pakistan est exacte, cela revient à confirmer l’acquisition du standard Block III par ce dernier. Ce nouveau mis à jour qui est en cours de développement chez l’Institut 611 Chengdu en Chine comprendra un moteur chinois WS-13B, un radar à antenne AESA KLJ-7A d’une portée de 170 kilomètres (voir notre dossier « Airshow China 2016 : KLJ-7A, le radar à AESA« ), un IRST, un viseur de casque (HMD), une nouvelle commande de vol électrique à pleine autorité redondante, et des nouveaux types de munition.

En parallèle de ces versions monoplace, l’assemblage du premier prototype biplace JF-17B est également commencé en Chine depuis le 27 Avril. Le groupe aéronautique chinois AVIC a présenté cette nouvelle variante basée sur le standard Block II au Salon de Bourget 2013.

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La maquette de JF-17B biplace


La cérémonie d’assemblage du premier FC-1 biplace





Et l’ambition des Pakistanais (et des Chinois, puisque c’est eux le véritable concepteur de l’avion) ne s’arrêterait pas là apparemment, puisque le bureau d’études chinois Institut 611 Chengdu est en train d’étudier une version semi-furtive de FC-1, avec au moins la pointe avant redessinée et un canopy mono-pièce.


l’Institut 611 Chengdu a commencé le développement d’une version semi-furtive de FC-1

Bien que l’avion soit taillé sur mesure par Chengdu pour le Pakistan, mais ni l’armée de l’air ni la marine chinoise n’est intéressée par ce chasseur léger d’une masse à vide de classe 6 tonnes. A part le Pakistan qui l’a en dotation, la Birmanie a également commandé 16 appareils pour un montant de 560 millions de dollar US.

D’autres prospects seraient aussi en pourparler avec le Pakistan et la Chine pour l’acquisition de l’avion, on peut citer par exemple le Maroc, l’Algérie, le Nigéria, le Bangladesh, le Sri Lanka, l’Iran et l’Egypte. Le FC-1 constitue un excellent remplaçant à bas coût des vieux Chengdu J-7 sachant que la chaîne de production est maintenant fermée – le prix d’un FC-1 Block II est estimé à environ 25 millions de dollar. Le programme pourrait devenir une prochaine poule d’or pour le groupe AVIC et le PAC.

L’Arabie Saoudite a aussi manifesté récemment un fort intérêt sur la co-production du FC-1 avec le Pakistan. Mais si le contrat se concrétise, on pense que les avions produits seraient plutôt destinés à un autre pays comme l’Egypte.

L’affaire à suivre.

Henri K.

French anyone!!!

Bismillah ir Rahman ar Raheem

Thanks for the great share brother.

Any pictures of the PL-12G available on the web? Can't seem to find any.

It seems the Pl-12D et. al. will be no-shows - US seems to be moving to dual-pulse and away from ramjets also.

On an aside, gambit must be having a heart-attack on the passive AESA bit, right about now.

Thanks again.

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FC-1 : le Pakistan voudrait 180 appareils supplémentaires
Air
2e8d649e1b274ce816887d2ce17d9964

By
Henri KENHMANN
28 novembre 2016

Selon la presse locale The Express Tribune, le Pakistan se serait engagé à augmenter le nombre d’avion de combat FC-1 / JF-17 en dotation au sein des forces aériennes pakistanaises (PAF), qui passera de 70 actuellement à 250 dans les quelques années à venir. L’information est dévoilée par l’un des officiers de la PAF présents au Salon IDEAS 2016 qui a eu lieu à Karachi récemment.

Les 50 premiers FC-1 au standard Block I ont tous été livrés avant la fin 2013, à la fois par l’Usine 132 à Chengdu, en Chine, et par le PAC (Pakistan Aeronautical Complex), une entité de production aéronautique pakistanaise localisée à Kamra.


Le radar à AESA KLJ-7A

L’assemblage des appareils du standard Block II, qui seront équipés d’une perche de ravitaillement en vol et d’une nouvelle suite avionique, est actuellement en cours. Une vingtaine d’avions a été produite depuis 2014 sur les 50 de prévu, et tous les premiers avion Block I pourront aussi migrer vers le standard Block II prochainement.

Si l’information selon laquelle un total de 250 FC-1 sera en dotation pour le Pakistan est exacte, cela revient à confirmer l’acquisition du standard Block III par ce dernier. Ce nouveau mis à jour qui est en cours de développement chez l’Institut 611 Chengdu en Chine comprendra un moteur chinois WS-13B, un radar à antenne AESA KLJ-7A d’une portée de 170 kilomètres (voir notre dossier « Airshow China 2016 : KLJ-7A, le radar à AESA« ), un IRST, un viseur de casque (HMD), une nouvelle commande de vol électrique à pleine autorité redondante, et des nouveaux types de munition.

En parallèle de ces versions monoplace, l’assemblage du premier prototype biplace JF-17B est également commencé en Chine depuis le 27 Avril. Le groupe aéronautique chinois AVIC a présenté cette nouvelle variante basée sur le standard Block II au Salon de Bourget 2013.

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La maquette de JF-17B biplace


La cérémonie d’assemblage du premier FC-1 biplace





Et l’ambition des Pakistanais (et des Chinois, puisque c’est eux le véritable concepteur de l’avion) ne s’arrêterait pas là apparemment, puisque le bureau d’études chinois Institut 611 Chengdu est en train d’étudier une version semi-furtive de FC-1, avec au moins la pointe avant redessinée et un canopy mono-pièce.


l’Institut 611 Chengdu a commencé le développement d’une version semi-furtive de FC-1

Bien que l’avion soit taillé sur mesure par Chengdu pour le Pakistan, mais ni l’armée de l’air ni la marine chinoise n’est intéressée par ce chasseur léger d’une masse à vide de classe 6 tonnes. A part le Pakistan qui l’a en dotation, la Birmanie a également commandé 16 appareils pour un montant de 560 millions de dollar US.

D’autres prospects seraient aussi en pourparler avec le Pakistan et la Chine pour l’acquisition de l’avion, on peut citer par exemple le Maroc, l’Algérie, le Nigéria, le Bangladesh, le Sri Lanka, l’Iran et l’Egypte. Le FC-1 constitue un excellent remplaçant à bas coût des vieux Chengdu J-7 sachant que la chaîne de production est maintenant fermée – le prix d’un FC-1 Block II est estimé à environ 25 millions de dollar. Le programme pourrait devenir une prochaine poule d’or pour le groupe AVIC et le PAC.

L’Arabie Saoudite a aussi manifesté récemment un fort intérêt sur la co-production du FC-1 avec le Pakistan. Mais si le contrat se concrétise, on pense que les avions produits seraient plutôt destinés à un autre pays comme l’Egypte.

L’affaire à suivre.

Henri K.

French anyone!!!



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FC-1: Pakistan wants 180 additional aircraft
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By
Henri KENHMANN
28 November 2016

According to the local press, The Express Tribune, Pakistan has pledged to increase the number of CF-1 / JF-17 fighting aircraft in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) from 70 to 250 Some years to come. The information is unveiled by one of the officers of the PAF present at the IDEAS 2016 fair that took place in Karachi recently.

The first 50 FC-1s in the Block I standard were all delivered before the end of 2013, both by Factory 132 in Chengdu, China and by PAC (Pakistan Aeronautical Complex), a localized Pakistani aeronautical production entity In Kamra.

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The radar at AESA KLJ-7A

The assembly of the Block II aircraft, which will be equipped with an in-flight refueling boom and a new avionics suite, is currently underway. About 20 aircraft have been produced since 2014 out of the 50 planned, and all the first Block I aircraft will also be able to migrate to the Block II standard soon.

If the information that a total of 250 FC-1 will be staffed for Pakistan is accurate, this amounts to confirming the acquisition of the Block III standard by Pakistan. This new update, which is under development at the 611 Chengdu Institute in China, will include a Chinese WS-13B engine, an AESA KLJ-7A antenna radar with a range of 170 kilometers (see our file "Airshow China 2016 : KLJ-7A, AESA radar "), an IRST, a helmet sight (HMD), a new redundant full authority electric flight control, and new types of ammunition.

In parallel to these single-seater versions, the assembly of the first two-seater prototype JF-17B has also begun in China since April 27th. The Chinese aeronautical group AVIC presented this new variant based on the Block II standard at the Paris Air Show 2013.

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The model of JF-17B two-seater

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The assembly ceremony of the first two-seater FC-1





And the ambition of the Pakistanis (and the Chinese, since they are the real designer of the plane) would not stop there apparently, since the Chinese Institute of Studies 611 Chengdu is studying a version Semi-stealth FC-1, with at least the redesigned front tip and a single-piece canopy.

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The 611 Chengdu Institute began developing a semi-stealth version of FC-1

Although the plane is tailor-made by Chengdu for Pakistan, neither the Air Force nor the Chinese Navy is interested in this light fighter of a 6-tonne no-load mass. Apart from Pakistan, Burma has also ordered 16 aircraft for US $ 560 million.

Other prospects would also be in talks with Pakistan and China to acquire the aircraft, such as Morocco, Algeria, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Iran and 'Egypt. The FC-1 is an excellent low-cost replacement for the old Chengdu J-7, knowing that the production line is now closed - the price of a FC-1 Block II is estimated at about 25 million dollars. The program could become a next golden hen for the AVIC group and the PAC.

Saudi Arabia has also recently shown a strong interest in FC-1 co-production with Pakistan. But if the contract is realized, it is thought that the planes produced would rather be destined for another country like Egypt.

The case to follow.

Henri K.

There you go Sir.
Regards
A
 
Would like to see out of the 250 Thunders how many will be B models / two seaters?
 
initially 10 Super Mushshak and 3 JF17 are confirmed earlier.

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Is it time for PAF to evaluate the J16.



I'm not an expert but the VIXEN e-scan series are supposedly superior than the APG series from the US. Selex-Gallelio / Leonardo are quite advanced in this area so I'm assuming that it would probably be superior to the Chinese KLJ7 series. the main point is what does the PAF think. historically PAF have preferred western radar and avionic suites but the Chinese are clearly closing this gap.
@fatman as Haris Khan PDF AF shortlisted SU 35 & J 16 for 40 aircraft induction what he said before it would twin engine and one of two above .My guess it would be J16 due to finance .
 
Air-Launched Weapons

Images show PLAAF testing possible new air-to-air missile

Andrew Tate, London and Neil Gibson, London and Richard D Fisher Jr, Washington, DC - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

02 December 2016

A PLAAF SAC J-16 fighter carrying two AAMs not previously seen in open sources. Source: Chinese internet via Weibo.com

China's People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) has been flight testing what appears to be a new long-range air-to-air missile (AAM), according to images posted on Chinese online forums.

Published on the social media platform Weibo on 20 November, the photographs show a PLAAF Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) J-16 (J-11BS derivative) twin-seat fighter carrying two AAMs not previously seen in open sources.

The photographs were removed from the micro-blogging website soon after appearing.

Analysis by Henri Kenhmann, an experienced observer of Chinese military developments, suggests that the missile may be intended to target airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft or other high value airborne units such as air-to-air refuelling aircraft.

The size of the missile is significant, with an estimated length of 5.8 m and a diameter of 300 mm. With no air intakes visible, it is assumed that the missile uses a solid-propellant-based propulsion system.

It is also noteworthy that the only control surfaces are tail fins: a similar configuration to the cancelled US Joint Dual-Role Air Dominance Missile or Next-Generation Missile.

The nose (radome) is ogival and likely to house an active radar seeker. Also seen on the upper surface and offset to the rear of the nose, is an object which could be associated with an infrared sensor window, although this cannot be confirmed due to the limited quality of the imagery.

Sitting behind the nose is a cylindrical section, slightly longer than the nose, which likely holds the missile guidance, proximity fuzing, and power systems. Present near its rear are four equally spaced strips, which are most likely antennas of a radio frequency proximity fuzing system.

Sitting behind this is a short cylindrical section, which likely houses the missile warhead section, the type and mass of which remains unclear.

The longest portion of the missile is the cylindrical motor section.
 

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Air Chief lauds PAF’s first ever expedition to Antarctic Peninsula

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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 BY STAFF REPORT

Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman met the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) team which returned from their first ever expedition to the Antarctic Peninsula. Argentinean Ambassador Ivan Ivanissevich was also present on the occasion. The Air Chief thanked the Argentinean Government for extending this opportunity to PAF personnel and hoped that the relations between both the countries and their air forces would continue to strengthen even further. He also expressed his desire to invite an Argentinean team to Pakistan next year for an expedition to the Northern Areas of Pakistan. He appreciated the resilience of the PAF team in the extreme weather conditions of the Antarctic region.

The expedition, carrying the slogan ‘Beat the Extreme’ had been planned in collaboration with Argentinean Air Force (AAF). To undertake this uphill task in the South Pole, a four-member team of the PAF left for Rio Gallegos, Argentina from Islamabad. From Rio Gellegos, the team was airlifted by an Argentinean Air Force aircraft from to Marembio (Antarctic Peninsula).

The team along with the Argentinean counterparts conducted the exercise in the Antarctic wilderness facing extreme weather conditions.

Antarctica, the fifth-largest continent, contains the geographic South Pole and is situated in the Antarctic region of the Southern Hemisphere. About 98% of Antarctica is covered by ice that averages 1.9 km (1.2 mi; 6,200 ft) in thickness, which extends to all but the northernmost reaches of the Antarctic Peninsula.
 

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The first batch of four Super Mushshak trainers have been delivered to Nigeria . Delivery comes six weeks after the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) signed a deal with the Nigerian Air Force to supply 10 new Super Mushshaks, eight of which will be loaned on an interim basis until the new trainers are exported. The next four will arrive by the second quarter of 2017, while the new models will be delivered later that summer.
 
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Air Platforms

Nigerian Air Force commissions first Super Mushshak trainers

Erwan de Cherisey, Paris - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

06 December 2016

The Nigerian Air Force held a ceremony on 5 December to mark the arrival of its first Super Mushshak trainers. (Nigerian Air Force)

The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) officially inducted into service its first Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) Kamra Super Mushshak basic training aircraft in a ceremony held at Kaduna Air Base on 5 December.

The ceremony was attended by Nigerian Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Sadiq Abubakar and Pakistan Air Force Chief of Staff Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman.

The Pakistan Broadcasting Corporation reported that four Super Mushshaks were handed over during the ceremony.

Air Marshal Abubakar noted that the new aircraft will allow the NAF to increase the tempo of its pilot training programme. "By the first quarter of 2017, NAF would have an additional 56 pilots to boost its operational manpower requirement," he said.

It was announced on 21 October that the NAF had ordered 10 Super Mushshaks for an undisclosed amount. The contract also covers training and technical support.

The Super Mushshak is an upgraded derivative of the Mushshak, which is a license-produced version of the Saab MFI-17 Supporter. It features a more powerful 260 hp Textron Lycoming IO-540 V4A5 engine and a glass cockpit. The aircraft is in service in Iran, Iraq, Oman, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia and was recently ordered by Qatar and Turkey.
 
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PAC HANDS OVER 70 JF-17 FIGHTER JETS TO PAF, NA TOLD
Chairman PAC Complex Kamra informed NA body about successful sale deal of Super Mushshak Aircraft to Nigeria, Turkey.
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04:19 PM, 7 Dec, 2016


Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has handed over seventy JF-17 fighter jets to Pakistan Air Force for its operational activities.

This was told to the National Assembly Standing Committee on Defense Production in Islamabad on Wednesday.

The Chairman Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra informed the Committee about the successful sale deal of Super Mushshak Aircraft to Nigeria and Turkey.

He also informed the Committee that PAC has vast experience and capacity for manufacturing the Super Mushshak within agreed time frame.

He further informed the Committee that PAC’s engineers have repaired Awacas Aircrafts, which were damaged during the terrorist attack.
 

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