Hyderabad 1948 | India's hidden massacre.

[saurav]

yes, they were living under nizam, so? why would nizam form a razakar force who cant be controlled and started to attack hindus of their own kingdom?
of course , what the indian army did was totally unacceptable.

Again... It was not IA but the native Hindus who majorly killed the razakars and its sympathisers. IA was mandated to disarm the razakars and they did just that. What followed next was the blowback of the years of oppression of crores of Hindus by a few thousand razakars.

and believe me it was well justified. No one can understand the plight of the Hindus living under razakars. Hindustan got liberated in August 1947. The Hindus were hopeful that they will also be able to breathe freely and their days of agony was going to be over. Boy.. were they wrong. Razakars started killing them, raping them and shaming them with alarming enthusiasm. Villages were raided almost daily and you can only imagine what followed. The heinous crimes committed against them after Aug 1947 had no parallel in India till Op. Searchlight happened in 1971 in neighbouring country. My own grand uncle was in the region those days and he had some stories to tell.

So lets not pretend to judge the reaction of vast majority who had seen every crime committed against them by a few thousand nutheads who were under the illusion that they had the birthright to rule and oppress crores of "Kaafirs".

 

[INDIC]

where were these Hindus before ? They were living under nizam for a long time.

Leaders of Razakars were related to Muslim League, British media even reported them receiving weapons from Pakistan to kill Hindus. The violence against Hindus started in 1946 when they saw British are leaving which mean Hyderabad would integrate to India because of the Hindu majority putting end to their rule in Hyderabad.

 

[Android]

what about crimes committed by Nizam's forces and Razakars on Hindus they are also grossly under reported but no officials would try to bring those into limelight as it would harm their Secular credentials

 

[Spring Onion]

Leaders of Razakars were related to Muslim League, British media even reported them receiving weapons from Pakistan to kill Hindus. The violence against Hindus started in 1946 when they saw British are leaving which mean Hyderabad would integrate to India because of the Hindu majority putting threat to their rule in Hyderabad.

in 47/48 Pakistan was NOT having enough weapons for our defence how could even supply them. even if that is true does it give Indian army license to Kill Muslims in Hyderabad a state which India intended to include in its territory by force.



Above all Indian Army representing Indian State and taking part in genocide of Muslims in Hyderabad while arming Hindus proves that Indian Army is part of Hindu extremist mindset.

 

[chhota bheem]

i lived in Hyderabad for 20 yrs and i have never heard of the massacre or anyone talking about it.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Is it really hidden? I've read about it in Marathi media when I was a child. There was massive backlash against Razakars who by various estimates were between 200,000 to 1,000,000 in nos. Many innocent Muslims were killed in the breakdown of law and order that followed the takeover of the state.

The Nizam was actually not a nutjob like Qasim Rizvi was. Rizvi had religious zeal and was a fundo and literally held the Nizam hostage using his razakar thugs. He was the one who unleashed the razakars on hindus.

Since practically nobody was punished for partition related violence, Qasim Rizvi was also allowed to move to Pakistan.

 

[Spring Onion]

Exactly.. They were living under Nizam for a long time. But the hatred shown against them by the Razakars of Qasim Rizwi and the atrocities committed against the hindus was unprecedented. Thats why for a long time Hindus had very little problems with Nizam. Only when Qasim Rizwi became the de-facto ruler of Hyderabad state and started the heinous atrocities against Hindus ( who were the majority ), the Hindus had to retaliate.
Razakars were given enough chances to stop the madness but they chose to torture the Hindus with even more alarmingly ruthlessness. IA had no option but to intervene after Sardar Patel saw no other option. My only grudge is that Qasim Rizwi was allowed to go and was not hanged for the crime against humanity.

If it was the case the local Hindu population would have revolted against him and they had the right to do so.

The funniest excuse you put forward nullify the above because its amusing why only after partition this excuse came to surface.

The report said



But Hyderabad's Muslim Nizam, or prince, insisted on remaining independent. This outraged the new country's mainly Hindu leaders in New Delhi.

After an acrimonious stand-off between Delhi and Hyderabad, the government finally lost patience.

In addition to their desire to prevent an independent Muslim-led state taking root in the heart of predominantly Hindu India was another worry.

Members of the powerful Razakar militia, the armed wing of Hyderabad's most powerful Muslim political party, were terrorising many Hindu villagers.

This gave the Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, the pretext he needed. In September 1948 the Indian Army invaded Hyderabad.

In what was rather misleadingly known as a "police action" the Nizam's forces were defeated after just a few days without any significant loss of civilian lives. But word then reached Delhi that arson, looting, and the mass murder and rape of Muslims had followed the invasion

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...948-indias-hidden-massacre.html#ixzz2fnGFbyFJ



Just a question to Indians here about the RED PART. does it give any excuse to Indian Army or any Army to invade another country??

 

[Android]

in 47/48 Pakistan was NOT having enough weapons for our defence how could even supply them. even if that is true does it give Indian army license to Kill Muslims in Hyderabad a state which India intended to include in its territory by force.



Above all Indian Army representing Indian State and taking part in genocide of Muslims in Hyderabad while arming Hindus proves that Indian Army is part of Hindu extremist mindset.

what about Pakistani Army massacring Hindus in East Pakistan???

 

[INDIC]

in 47/48 Pakistan was NOT having enough weapons for our defence how could even supply them. even if that is true does it give Indian army license to Kill Muslims in Hyderabad a state which India intended to include in its territory by force.



Above all Indian Army representing Indian State and taking part in genocide of Muslims in Hyderabad while arming Hindus proves that Indian Army is part of Hindu extremist mindset.

British media of that time reported chartered flights from Karachi bringing arms to Hyderabad. Now don't tell me crap that Pakistan didn't have weapons.


The above reports says Indian army mostly remained disciplined after the Operation Polo.

 

[saurav]

I have seen the amount of hatred they have. Boy o boy they hate Hindus more than any Pakistani would. The sense of a lost privilege to rule Hindus is the biggest insult to them. But in 1948 the Hindus did not make the mistake of sparing most of these pests. Most of them were put to death. Not even raped! Shows how much hatred the population had for its ruling class. Only a few survived. Some even had to escape all the way to Pakistan!

Terrorists have no right to live. Be it TTP or Razakars or LTTE - they have only one solution.

Correct.. I have lived with Muslims my whole life in Bihar. But was i shocked when i met them in Hyderabad. Their hatred against Hindus was almost unbelievable.. One old man was so mad that his own grandson was friend with a Brahmin.
It was after meeting them that I understood why Raja Singh is so important in Hyedrabad..

 

[notsuperstitious]

If it was the case the local Hindu population would have revolted against him and they had the right to do so.

The funniest excuse you put forward nullify the above because its amusing why only after partition this excuse came to surface.

The report said



But Hyderabad's Muslim Nizam, or prince, insisted on remaining independent. This outraged the new country's mainly Hindu leaders in New Delhi.

After an acrimonious stand-off between Delhi and Hyderabad, the government finally lost patience.

In addition to their desire to prevent an independent Muslim-led state taking root in the heart of predominantly Hindu India was another worry.

Members of the powerful Razakar militia, the armed wing of Hyderabad's most powerful Muslim political party, were terrorising many Hindu villagers.

This gave the Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, the pretext he needed. In September 1948 the Indian Army invaded Hyderabad.

In what was rather misleadingly known as a "police action" the Nizam's forces were defeated after just a few days without any significant loss of civilian lives. But word then reached Delhi that arson, looting, and the mass murder and rape of Muslims had followed the invasion

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...948-indias-hidden-massacre.html#ixzz2fnGFbyFJ



Just a question to Indians here about the RED PART. does it give any excuse to Indian Army or any Army to invade another country??

Lets be realistic, Hyderabad was NOT another country. We were in the process of consolidating our country and the Nizam had to go.

BTW rich coming from you because Pakistan first sent in their army and lashkars into ''another country'' Kashmir under a similar pretext. That was BEFORE Hyderabad.

Pakistan should not start games they can not win, the invasion of Kashmir, fuelling insurgencies in NE in the 60s etc etc was started by Pakistan, but when India did the same only better they keep complaining as if the shock made them forget history.

 

[Spring Onion]

what about Pakistani Army massacring Hindus in East Pakistan???

Terrorists joining hands with enemies to break the country deserve anything less??

 

[livingdead]

If it was the case the local Hindu population would have revolted against him and they had the right to do so.

The funniest excuse you put forward nullify the above because its amusing why only after partition this excuse came to surface.

The report said



But Hyderabad's Muslim Nizam, or prince, insisted on remaining independent. This outraged the new country's mainly Hindu leaders in New Delhi.

After an acrimonious stand-off between Delhi and Hyderabad, the government finally lost patience.

In addition to their desire to prevent an independent Muslim-led state taking root in the heart of predominantly Hindu India was another worry.

Members of the powerful Razakar militia, the armed wing of Hyderabad's most powerful Muslim political party, were terrorising many Hindu villagers.

This gave the Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, the pretext he needed. In September 1948 the Indian Army invaded Hyderabad.

In what was rather misleadingly known as a "police action" the Nizam's forces were defeated after just a few days without any significant loss of civilian lives. But word then reached Delhi that arson, looting, and the mass murder and rape of Muslims had followed the invasion

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...948-indias-hidden-massacre.html#ixzz2fnGFbyFJ



Just a question to Indians here about the RED PART. does it give any excuse to Indian Army or any Army to invade another country??

The red part is opinion of BBC guy who wrote this piece today... why dont you ask the guy who wrote it.... dont confuse BBC report with the report that GoI commissioned.

 

[Truth Finder]

Just a question to Indians here about the RED PART. does it give any excuse to Indian Army or any Army to invade another country??

Reporting in English is nothing but jugglery of words. To some people it's invasion, but to the majority(to the 90% population of Telangana); it's accession.

 

[Spring Onion]

Lets be realistic, Hyderabad was NOT another country. We were in the process of consolidating our country and the Nizam had to go.

BTW rich coming from you because Pakistan first sent in their army and lashkars into ''another country'' Kashmir under a similar pretext. That was BEFORE Hyderabad.

Pakistan should not start games they can not win, the invasion of Kashmir, fuelling insurgencies in NE in the 60s etc etc was started by Pakistan, but when India did the same only better they keep complaining as if the shock made them forget history.

ahhhhhh So you finally came to the point

So Indian army committing mass murder of Muslims, mass rape of Muslims in an independent state of Hyderabad is justified and Pakistan giving support to natives who revolted against the brutal maharaja is NOT justified ??

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