History Matters: 5 Myths About Israel

[Providence]

A variety of historical facts and genetic tests which put present day Ashkenazi Jews' origin as non Semitic

I maybe wrong but aren't ashkenzi jews from eastern europe and present day ural-russia ?

 

[Dubious]

How u explain Israeli attacks in other Muslim countries especially it's efforts to sabotage Pak Atomic program. It's a shame that even some jews who had some humanity left in them were on flotilla attacked by Israelis.

No I wouldnt paint all Jews as that.....I just paint Obnoxious Zionists as that! There are many Israelis who refuse to go back to Israel, even many holocaust victims condemn Israel, Heck there are many Jews who dont want anything to do with israel - and still some slave mentality people bow their heads and support this?

I maybe wrong but aren't ashkenzi jews from eastern europe and present day ural-russia ?

DNA suggests that but @Solomon2 and a number of self proclaimed professors will deny it to the core

Yea: The name Ashkenaz was applied in the Middle Ages to Jews living along the Rhine River in northern France and western Germany. The center of Ashkenazi Jews later spread to Poland-Lithuania and now there are Ashkenazi settlements all over the world. The term "Ashkenaz" became identified primarily with German customs and descendants of German Jews.

Ashkenazim | Jewish Virtual Library

 

[Solomon2]

Despite difference of opinion even abt history of Israel between majority Muslims and Jews, one should see what is happening now.in Palestine even analysing it as a human being what is happening there now. Palestine people are living in hell children dying in streets and Israeli Ministers giving hate speeches against Palestinians.

In other words, true history should nevertheless be disregarded and the preferred jew-hate-promoting tunnel visions of today embraced.

Cant reply? You shouldnt quote

Young man, there are politer ways to ask teachers for answers than by taunts and accusations. How do I know if you're really interested in learning?

 

[Jungibaaz]

You're right, that article IS full of myths...

 

[Total Destruction]

Let's end this subject with one sentence as i said before, Israelis don't own Palestine ..they lived in Egypt and before Egypt in Arab peninsula ..Enough said.

 

[Dubious]

In other words, true history should nevertheless be disregarded and the preferred jew-hate-promoting tunnel visions of today embraced.

Nobody is hating jews....Just Zionism...Not all Jews are Zionists! Kindly get that sorted!

Young man, there are politer ways to ask teachers for answers than by taunts and accusations. How do I know if you're really interested in learning?

The same way I took the time to answer you...and do provide NON ISRAELI accounts....

2ndly, a teacher teaches irrespective of the student's behaviour....Only a loser runs away not a teacher!

 

[CHI RULES]

In other words, true history should nevertheless be disregarded and the preferred jew-hate-promoting tunnel visions of today embraced.

With due respect ur answer shows how serious Zionists are for peace assuming u are also a Jew. Considering human beings as humans not like dogs is wrong. U never get my point as Muslims consider British as facilitators of Jews. Many people think that Eu nations were in depth were fully aware abt Jew politics and their malpractices soi they required a dumping ground to dump Jews. Palestine land which was taken either by force or by suppressing poor Palestinians was right at ur end.

Please tell me how the blood of Palestinians is different than jews. If u kill Palestinian children by using jets it is ur right meanwhile poor Palestinians if fire their useless rockets our kill few Israelis then they are terrorists.

Reference: Pleas do see program of Ross Kemp dating one to two Years back by name of Extreme world even host could n't control his tears while observing brutalities of Israel against Palestine Children.

Please check and answer me with facts not by article of some cheap person.

 

[Solomon2]

Nobody is hating jews....Just Zionism...Not all Jews are Zionists! Kindly get that sorted!

I understand that division is mandated by law in Pakistan. I'm pointing out that ZIonists, too, don't deserve the hatred imbued into you by Pakistan's schools, madrassas, etc. You don't want to accept this, perhaps because of a particular cultural trait I saw in my Pakistani lab partners and classmates: you guys hate unlearning anything once learned.

The same way I took the time to answer you...and do provide NON ISRAELI accounts....

Bellarose isn't Israeli. He isn't even Jewish.

2ndly, a teacher teaches irrespective of the student's behaviour....Only a loser runs away not a teacher!

Is it common for students to jeer the teacher at your school?

With due respect ur answer shows how serious Zionists are for peace assuming u are also a Jew. Considering human beings as humans not like dogs is wrong.

I think you're switching Zionists with Arab terrorists.

U never get my point as Muslims consider British as facilitators of Jews.

Yep, it's a problem the Brits have struggled with for a long time. Bellarose cuts right through it, so the question now becomes why Muslims should consider to endorse such an opinion rather than change.

Please tell me how the blood of Palestinians is different than jews.

Do you consider, then, that the Peshawar massacre last year was justified, since the terrorists' blood isn't any redder than those of the kids?

Please check and answer me with facts not by article of some cheap person.

It's the arguments, facts, and context that the writer can muster that matters, not the emperor's clothes.

 

[Dubious]

understand that division is mandated by law in Pakistan.

I am sorry you understand so less

don't deserve the hatred

Yet they have not been able to prove anything less or more deserving

you by Pakistan's schools, madrassas, etc.

and you were talking about teacher teaching....Is that what you have been taught Pakitani schools = madrassa? Cheap, dont you think? from one trying to sound rich? @Jungibaaz please dont tell me I am the only one who saw that

You don't want to accept this, perhaps because of a particular cultural trait I saw in my Pakistani lab partners and classmates: you guys hate unlearning anything once learned.

Another cheap one....Painting by a broad brush has been seen in every bigot alive! Even I said not all Jews but of course couldnt expect the same from you...

Bellarose isn't Israeli. He isn't even Jewish.

And I asked you to post it...This was the answer to Bellarose....

Why not put it up?

The non Jewish source was for whatever you will present next

And here I was thinking that Advanced American schools would at least teach critical analytical thinking

Is it common for students to jeer the teacher at your school?

No, we jeer at those pretending to be teachers but cant teach! They are not teachers but wanna bes

Do you consider, then, that the Peshawar massacre last year was justified, since the terrorists' blood isn't any redder than those of the kids?

@Jungibaaz how is this relevant unless he is calling the israelis terrorist

 

[Solomon2]

and you were talking about teacher teaching....Is that what you have been taught Pakitani schools = madrassa?

Yes. In Jeffrey Goldberg's book Prisoners he toured a Pakistani madrassa. When he tried to speak the students chanted together to drown him out. Pakistan's H.E.C. labels that anything that shows Israel favorably as "a challenge to the ideology of Pakistan" and wants forbid its discussion and Pakistan's government issues media codes of conduct forbidding print and electronic media from publishing such: link.

 

[VCheng]

Yes. In Jeffrey Goldberg's book Prisoners he toured a Pakistani madrassa. When he tried to speak the students chanted together to drown him out. Pakistan's H.E.C. labels that anything that shows Israel favorably as "a challenge to the ideology of Pakistan" and wants forbid its discussion and Pakistan's government issues media codes of conduct forbidding print and electronic media from publishing such: link.

The Pakistani HEC is perfectly within its rights and authority to prescribe that view, Sir.

 

[Solomon2]

The Pakistani HEC is perfectly within its rights and authority to prescribe that view, Sir.

What "rights" and "authority" are those? The force of government or the force of truth and morality? Or maybe you don't recognize a difference?

 

[VCheng]

What "rights" and "authority" are those? The force of government or the force of truth and morality? Or maybe you don't recognize a difference?

The HEC has the authority to set educational standards that best serve Pakistan's needs, not anybody else's. Why should anyone else have a problem with that?

 

[Dubious]

Yes. In Jeffrey Goldberg's book Prisoners he toured a Pakistani madrassa. When he tried to speak the students chanted together to drown him out. Pakistan's H.E.C. labels that anything that shows Israel favorably as "a challenge to the ideology of Pakistan" and wants forbid its discussion and Pakistan's government issues media codes of conduct forbidding print and electronic media from publishing such: link.

Isnt that the same as you rejecting anything that is not taken from a Zionist site as anti zionist propaganda? So as per your definition you also went to a madrassa?

Yes. In Jeffrey Goldberg's book Prisoners he toured a Pakistani madrassa. When he tried to speak the students chanted together to drown him out. Pakistan's H.E.C. labels that anything that shows Israel favorably as "a challenge to the ideology of Pakistan" and wants forbid its discussion and Pakistan's government issues media codes of conduct forbidding print and electronic media from publishing such: link.

Are you dumb or lying? Cant really tell...I clicked on the "link" you provided it took me to a 14 page PDF and not 1 word that rhythms with Jew or Israel...

So it is not Pemra's doing but your "challenge to the ideology of Pakistan" article's doing....No idea how Israel will challenge Pakistani ideology?

BTW, how is this related to Israeli myths which are historical facts?

Every time someone points a historical fact or even tells the truth about Israel you divert it to Pakistan...

I know in psychology we call it Psychological projection....Do consult a specialist

Now this is a teacher's advice not how you divert a whole topic- no teaching going on there just confusing....

 

[Solomon2]

The HEC has the authority to set educational standards that best serve Pakistan's needs, not anybody else's. Why should anyone else have a problem with that?

Because of the hatemongering lies it promotes, the acceptance of them by men like yourself, and the resulting moral corruption to Pakistani society. Do you think that best promotes Pakistan's needs - or those of the men in power who use antisemitism as a trick to rob the store while everyone's eyes are looking the other way? (You need to look at the hands, not the girl...)

Isnt that the same as you rejecting anything that is not taken from a Zionist site as anti zionist propaganda? So as per your definition you also went to a madrassa?

Nonsensical jeering in the face of facts. Even teachers look forward to the bell sometimes.