Hashemi Rafsanjani Dies Aged 82

[AmirPatriot]

in 1982 there were no peace offer, and that lunatic Saddam didn't accept any too. we only captured khoramshahr, few meter away Iraqis were still present. about 1000km square including important cities like "oil city" and strategic locations were in their occupation, what kind of sane and patriot human can accept a ceasefire in that situation?! turning the victory into a defeat! for your information, even after we accepted the 598 resolution, Saddam didn't respect the ceasefire.

Iran didn't even try for peace in 1982. The UNSC was constantly calling for ceasefire. The reason the west increased their support to Saddam after 1982 was because we were going to march to Baghdad if they didn't, because we had the advantage and we kept saying we wanted to (the road to Jerusalem is through Baghdad). Iran should have constantly responded to calls for peace and stated its intention to go back to normal borders, while keeping Saddam from taking Iranian land. And btw, 1000 km^2 is miniscule compared to over 1.6 million km^2.

 

[mohsen]

Iran didn't even try for peace in 1982. The UNSC was constantly calling for ceasefire. The reason the west increased their support to Saddam after 1982 was because we were going to march to Baghdad if they didn't, because we had the advantage and we kept saying we wanted to (the road to Jerusalem is through Baghdad). Iran should have constantly responded to calls for peace and stated its intention to go back to normal borders, while keeping Saddam from taking Iranian land. And btw, 1000 km^2 is miniscule compared to over 1.6 million km^2.

what peace? seems you don't understand the difference between peace and ceasefire.
ceasefire was the demand of Saddam shortly after his invasion, do you know why? cause he already had captured the important and strategic locations, all he needed was a ceasefire to strengthen his position. do you even know the meaning of strategic location? even 1m square of an strategic location is important.

that traitor Bani Sadr had a plan to let them in and your plan was to let them stay, seems like a complete plan!

West increased it's support cause they noticed Iraq can't accomplish their plan alone. even after 598 resolution till Iraq didn't start another war, this time against west ally they didn't even announce the Iraq as the starter of Iran-Iraq war. they didn't even care about the use of chemical weapons by Iraq, cause it was themselves who were giving these weapons.

only a fool would believe accepting ceasefire would have change their position, as if today Bashar Asad has achieved anything through these ceasefires.

the only language which arrogance powers understand is force and nothing else.

 

[Uhuhu]

leader didn't even count him as a national figure. leader didn't even condole his death to nation

it just showed how he is.

 

[AmirPatriot]

what peace? seems you don't understand the difference between peace and ceasefire.
ceasefire was the demand of Saddam shortly after his invasion, do you know why? cause he already had captured the important and strategic locations, all he needed was a ceasefire to strengthen his position. do you even know the meaning of strategic location? even 1m square of an strategic location is important.

that traitor Bani Sadr had a plan to let them in and your plan was to let them stay, seems like a complete plan!

West increased it's support cause they noticed Iraq can't accomplish their plan alone. even after 598 resolution till Iraq didn't start another war, this time against west ally they didn't even announce the Iraq as the starter of Iran-Iraq war. they didn't even care about the use of chemical weapons by Iraq, cause it was themselves who were giving these weapons.

only a fool would believe accepting ceasefire would have change their position, as if today Bashar Asad has achieved anything through these ceasefires.

the only language which arrogance powers understand is force and nothing else.

Do you think the day before the ceasefire in 1988, Iran had only its territory and nothing more, and the same for Iraq? Of course not! All UNSC Resolutions relating to the war included that both sides had to retreat to the international border. And that is what happened.

At no point did I say the Iraqis could keep a single inch of Iranian territory, so don't compare me with Bani Sadr and his ilk.

I'm saying we do exactly what we did in 1988, just 6 years sooner. Its simple as that. We push for a peace that means all sides return to international border. Meanwhile we keep the pressure on Saddam.

In 1982 we re-captured Khorramshahr and had backed the Iraqis into a corner. When Saddam said under a ceasefire he would fully retreat from all Iranian territory within 2 weeks, Ali Akbar Velayati, Ali Khamenei and General Shirazi among others wanted to accept it.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Why are they chanting "Death to Russia"?

https://twitter.com/x/status/818774493426569216

https://twitter.com/x/status/818777589695344641

 

[mohsen]

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It just showed how obsessed tyrant he is.

doesn't change anything, that's the result of Bombarding people with "یار دیرین امام" in TV. you know better what kind of people participate in these ceremonies.

Why are they chanting "Death to Russia"?

https://twitter.com/x/status/818774493426569216

https://twitter.com/x/status/818777589695344641

2 million mourn for a man, few agents do what they are asked too.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Why are they chanting "Death to Russia"?

https://twitter.com/x/status/818774493426569216

https://twitter.com/x/status/818777589695344641

That would be strange.. this death to Russia chant was chanted during demonstrations in 2009 as an answer to the death-to-amerika crowd. Are you sure that these are actual video's/voices?

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

That would be strange.. this death to Russia chant was chanted during demonstrations in 2009 as an answer to the death-to-amerika crowd. Are you sure that these are actual video's/voices?

They're definitely new/recent videos:

https://twitter.com/x/status/818750461050257408

https://twitter.com/x/status/818752516863225856

https://twitter.com/x/status/818752870858297345

It seems that the chants came from Mousavi's supporters.

 

[OldTwilight]

You really think this is a simple problem and There is a simple solution? This goes much and much deeper than reformist-conservative thing. A part of the oil and gas money disappeared last 38 years. There is systematic mismanagement and corruption. Only transparancy and free speech and press are able to fix these problems. You should be able to research and expose corruption without fearing being called enemy of revolution, slanderer of holy figures and such nonsense.

A hard working person such as you does not deserve this situation.

آخرین بار که دیدم ، دولت روحانی و رسانه های اصلاح طلب خواستار حذف عبارت « و عموم مردم » از لایحه نظارت بر اموال و درآمدهای مسولین شدند

شفافیت باید از یک جایی شروع بشه ...

نمی دونم کجا زندگی می کنی ولی چیزهای زیادی توی خوزستان دیده می شه که وقایع رو نشون می ده ....

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It just showed how obsessed tyrant he is.

What about 9 day

 

[mohsen]

Do you think the day before the ceasefire in 1988, Iran had only its territory and nothing more, and the same for Iraq? Of course not! All UNSC Resolutions relating to the war included that both sides had to retreat to the international border. And that is what happened.

That is what happened after we took back our land.

At no point did I say the Iraqis could keep a single inch of Iranian territory, so don't compare me with Bani Sadr and his ilk.

I'm saying we do exactly what we did in 1988, just 6 years sooner. Its simple as that. We push for a peace that means all sides return to international border. Meanwhile we keep the pressure on Saddam.

in 1988 we were on the offensive course, that's the difference. all U.N resolutions prior to 598 resolution were not mandatory. they were just advising the two sides to stop the war. yet as soon as we captured the Fav in Iraq, the 598 resolution was passed.

In 1982 we re-captured Khorramshahr and had backed the Iraqis into a corner. When Saddam said under a ceasefire he would fully retreat from all Iranian territory within 2 weeks, Ali Akbar Velayati, Ali Khamenei and General Shirazi among others wanted to accept it.

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in 1982 the only people who were against the continuing of war were MKO terrorist group.

What about 9 day

9day were trees in the streets manipulated with Photoshop to move!!!

 

[Hack-Hook]

That is what happened after we took back our land.


in 1988 we were on the offensive course, that's the difference. all U.N resolutions prior to 598 resolution were not mandatory. they were just advising the two sides to stop the war. yet as soon as we captured the Fav in Iraq, the 598 resolution was passed.



in 1982 the only people who were against the continuing of war were MKO terrorist group.

9day were trees in the streets manipulated with Photoshop to move!!!

don't know about we being on offensive part in 1988 , in 1987 we controlled many of Iraq territories in 1988 we lost many of those places.
i guess if it was not for the MKO retards we could not name a major victory in that year.

 

[Serpentine]

They're definitely new/recent videos:

https://twitter.com/x/status/818750461050257408

https://twitter.com/x/status/818752516863225856

https://twitter.com/x/status/818752870858297345

It seems that the chants came from Mousavi's supporters.

They are from today, but they are no more than a few hundred. But it serves some specific interests to portray them as 'many' or the majority.

 

[VEVAK]

They're definitely new/recent videos:

https://twitter.com/x/status/818750461050257408

https://twitter.com/x/status/818752516863225856

https://twitter.com/x/status/818752870858297345

It seems that the chants came from Mousavi's supporters.

Couple hundred people try to steal the events for themselves it happens every single time!!!!!!!!!!!! Once you start saying "Marg bar roseyyeh" then your showing your hand!!!!!!!!!!

I understand pro Mossavi, Karroubi, Khatami & Hashemi chants but once you go beyond that then to me your nothing but paid agents there to try to destroy Iran's relationship with Russia which only benefits the U.S. and has absolutely no benefit to Iran & Iranians!!!!!!
Neither Mossavi, Khatami nor Hashemi would have ever supported such absurd statements!!!!!!!! During Rafzanjani & Khatami Iran's cooperation with Russia were far greater than they are today!
Who do you think purchased the Kilo subs, Russian Helo's, fighters,.... from Russia?
Who do you think got license production of BMP-1, T-72's, RPG-7, AK-47, etc etc from Russia??????
Iran's military cooperation with Russia was far greater in the 90's than it ever was under Ahmadi & again under Rohani is far greater than it was during Ahmadi!!!!!!!! So what the hell these ppl are talking about I have no clue!!!!!!!!!!

Paying $1000 to 1000 ppl = $1 Million USD that is chump change for the west and there were no more than 1000 ppl screaming BS everyone else was just watching them!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AmirPatriot]

Dafuck were they doing to him

 

[VEVAK]

They are from today, but they are no more than a few hundred. But it serves some specific interests to portray them as 'many' or the majority.

What do mean no more than a few hundred!!!!!!!! Are you talking about the paid idiots that were screaming absurd & delusional chants or the people that showed up??????
Of the millions only at max 1000 paid fools were screaming nonsense like "Marg bar Roseyyeh" most ppl were just looking at them!
And it doesn't get more absurd than that since Hashemi & Khatami had greater military cooperation with Russia then any other president!
Technology transfer and License Production of various Russian equipment happened under their leadership!
The purchasing of Russian Subs, Helo's, Aircraft,... sending Iran's 1st sat into space.....by the most part happened under the leadership of Hashemi & Khatami!

Screaming marg bar roseyeh is like spitting on Hashemi's grave!!!! You have to be an Idiot of a paid agent to scream such absurd nonsense on the eve of Hashemi's death! It's radicals!!!!! But it clearly shows the west has at least 1000 paid fools working for them inside Iran!