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The armed leader in the eastern part of Libya, Khalifa Hafter, demanded reassurance and an important role in the state in exchange for withdraw from Tripoli. This situation is assessable as "an honorable exit" after the defeats in Tripoli.

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According to Gassan Selame's(UN Special Envoy for Libya) recent interview with the French newspaper Liberation , he said Hafter's request for "assurance and an important role in the state" from GNA to withdraw from Tripoli.

Although the UN has tried to avoid this statement, which has aroused wide press coverage in the press, Hafter's spokesman Ahmed al-Mismari said "Hafter will never negotiate about to gain an important position in new goverment".

However, the defeat in the city of Giryan and the fact that the GNA forces have made serious progress towards the administrative border of the city of Terhune in the southeast of the capital show that the Hafter forces have faltered.

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3 stages in the war of Tripoli

The clashes between Hafter forces and internationally legitimate GNA troops that have lasted for more than 5 months in and around Tripoli can be handled in 3 stages.

The first phase, in which Hafter forces rapidly seized many cities in the western part of the country, is followed by the second phase in which the GNA troops are regaining control over the lost and recovered areas.

In the third stage, it is seen that GNA troops are attacking and Hafter forces are defending.

1. The rapid advance of Hafter forces

Hafter forces seized most of the cities in the west of the country as part of the Tripoli attack on April 4. The cities of Sabrata, Surman, Giryan and Terhune came under the control of Hafter forces without fighting at a record speed.

In the first week of the attack, the cities of Aziziye, Zehra, Saidiye and Amiriyye were taken under control.

The participation of Terhune 9th Brigade strengthened Hafter's hand. The forces of Hafter moved to the capital with the brigade troops in Terhune and seized the towns of Suk al-Hamis, Suk es-Sebt, Suk al-Ehad, Es-Sebia.

The southern neighborhoods of Tripoli were falling down one by one, and there seemed to be no force to repel this progress which is coming from the east. After Kasr Bin Gashir Neighborhood, Hafter forces made great progress in Ayn Zara and Vadi er-Rebi neighborhoods. Later, some of the dormant cells in the region also supported the Hafter forces and captured the neighborhood of Es-Sevani.

The attack on the former strategic Tripoli Airport was followed by the advance of Hafter forces. A few days after Hafter's attack, Tripoli was like a wounded prey, preparing to breathe its last breath.

2. GNA troops repelling attacks

In the second week of the attacks, the capital took a sigh of relief, when Misrata(The city where Turkish roots/Kulogulları are most powerful) began to reach support to Tripoli and GNA troops from the cities of Zaviye and Zintan to the west. At the same time, the forces of the Hafter from the east were stopped and GNA started to defend around the center of the capital.

In the second stage, GNA forces started to take back the regions that they lost at the beginning of the attack and regained control in the districts of Verşefane, especially Aziziye. Sevani Neighborhood near the old airport was also rescued from Hafter forces.

During this period, GNA troops also cut a thousand kilometers of air and land supply lines of Hafter forces. Cufra Air Base, which Hafter forces used as ammunition depot, was targeted. Hafter forces was start to feeling Lack of ammunition and fuel while conflicts fronts difficulties getting even more.

This explains why the Hafter forces surrendered on many fronts, a decline in motivation, and some of them fleeing from conflict zones to their eastern families.

The forces of Hafter, who were on the verge of ending the Tripoli war in almost a few days, have been unable to achieve any tangible progress, except for the air strikes that have killed civilians and immigrants for months.

Now Hafter and his commanders future are at stake for war crimes judgement by the International Criminal Court (ICC) because of these attacks, targeting civilians and immigrants . This erroneous policy has pushed France, one of the international supporters, to an undecided position.

Hafter declined on all fronts on the western axis (Sevani, Zehra, Aziziye, Kerimiyye, Saidiye, Amiriyye, Hira). The breakthrough development in this context was that the Hafter forces lost Giryan in a surprise attack on June 26, located south of the capital, the center of operation.

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3. The transition of Hafter forces from attack to defense

After stopping the attacks of Hafter troops, GNA forces started to re-seize the regions they lost and in the third stage they started to attack the Hafter regions. Hafter forces also moved from defense to defense.

In the early days of August, GNA troops advanced from eastern Tripoli to the outskirts of Terhune in the southeast of the capital, and for the first time forced the 9th Brigade to retreat outside the city's administrative borders.

GNA troops intensified their attacks on the positions of the 9th Brigade in Terhune and its vicinity.

However, the 9th Brigade also attacked the populated areas of the capital from the air. Dozens of civilians lost their lives in these attacks. The prisoners of GNA troops were subjected to lethal torture. Currently, information about the majority of these prisoners is not available.

- Implementation of the ancient military tactic in Terhune

Terhune is a key point, although the main goal of GNA is to move Hafter forces away from the southern suburbs of the capital. After the loss of Giryan, the control of the Hafter forces in Terhune, which became the center of operations of the Hafter forces, would mean the destruction of the front line of the Hafter forces.

When Terhune is seized, Hafter forces will now be besieged on all fronts and ammunition paths will be blocked. Thus, the 9th Brigade will have to withdraw its troops from the capital, Tripoli, to protect its city.

This reminds us of the military tactic that how the Romans prevailed in the Battle of Carthage in 218-201 BCE by preventing the transportation of supplies against Hannibal, the Carthaginian commander.

The attack on Terhune will also save GNA's capital. Thus the battlefield will change direction from the southern suburbs of Tripoli to the neighborhoods and streets of Terhune.

- The latest situation on the Terhune front

Terhune is almost besieged. GNA troops have been pressuring to cut off the supply line between Terhune and Kasr bin Gashir and the old airport by launching attacks from El-Kura Boli in the north and Es-Sebia and Suk al-Hamis in the west.

GNA troops can also attack Terhune from Misellata on the eastern front and cut off the supply line between Terhune and Beni Walid in the south.

Residents of Terhune have been suffering from water shortages for 4 months, as well as lack of fuel since the attacks on the capital. In addition, the city is experiencing financial problems. The continuation of the conflicts increases the siege status of the city, which has no airport or maritime transport.

The fall of the Terhune front is also key for GNA to regain control over Beni Walid air base. An attack on the strategically important Cufra Airbase from Beni Walid in the south of Tripoli can be carried out or the Hafter control in the cities and municipalities in the Fizan region in the southwest of the country can be terminated.

- Hafter situation in the southern regions

Hafter forces failed to maintain control despite the heavy air strikes in the city of Merzuk in Fizan, southwest of the country. This failure in the city of Merzuk can be regarded as an indication of the "fragility" of Hafter's control in the Fezzan region.

It may not be too difficult for GNA troops to take back this large and sparsely populated area if they deal with southern tribes. Especially given that Hafter had drawn a significant part of his troops to the north to concentrate on Tripoli.

- Situation of Hafter's allied brigades

When you look at the clashes that have left behind 5 months in Tripoli and its vicinity, it is seen that Hafter is not on the way to "victory is close", which he said before.

It is observed that Hafter's troops from the eastern part of the country have lost their enthusiasm for war and want to return home.

Zintan Brigades are divided in two as a results of attacks against Tripoli. This can lead to an outrage within them, and no one in the city can survive the civil war that will erupt in Terhune.

The commanders of the Verfefane Brigade, an ally of Hafter, were betrayed by an air raid on their cities of the 9th Brigade of Terhune. This shows a tough field of internal struggle between Hafter's allies, which are left.

The international pressure against Haftere, which does not seem very promising, is also on the rise. While France is backing down its support, Egypt does not want to take part in this blood-losing war. Egypt's deep economic problems may be another reason why this motivation is broken.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) situation is a matter of curiosity. It is not known to what extent Abu Dhabi will use the "moral legacy" of the relations established by the late Sheikh Zayid, the founder of the UAE, at the time of the international embargo on Libya.

After all,probably Hafter seems to have no other way than to negotiate to save himself, his troops and his country from the worst-case scenario.

graphics and content source : https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/dunya/trablusun-guneyinde-hezimete-ugrayan-hafter-cikis-ariyor/1582981
 
The armed leader in the eastern part of Libya, Khalifa Hafter, demanded reassurance and an important role in the state in exchange for withdraw from Tripoli. This situation is assessable as "an honorable exit" after the defeats in Tripoli.

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According to Gassan Selame's(UN Special Envoy for Libya) recent interview with the French newspaper Liberation , he said Hafter's request for "assurance and an important role in the state" from GNA to withdraw from Tripoli.

Although the UN has tried to avoid this statement, which has aroused wide press coverage in the press, Hafter's spokesman Ahmed al-Mismari said "Hafter will never negotiate about to gain an important position in new goverment".

However, the defeat in the city of Giryan and the fact that the GNA forces have made serious progress towards the administrative border of the city of Terhune in the southeast of the capital show that the Hafter forces have faltered.

eylul%2Ftun-b.jpg


3 stages in the war of Tripoli

The clashes between Hafter forces and internationally legitimate GNA troops that have lasted for more than 5 months in and around Tripoli can be handled in 3 stages.

The first phase, in which Hafter forces rapidly seized many cities in the western part of the country, is followed by the second phase in which the GNA troops are regaining control over the lost and recovered areas.

In the third stage, it is seen that GNA troops are attacking and Hafter forces are defending.

1. The rapid advance of Hafter forces

Hafter forces seized most of the cities in the west of the country as part of the Tripoli attack on April 4. The cities of Sabrata, Surman, Giryan and Terhune came under the control of Hafter forces without fighting at a record speed.

In the first week of the attack, the cities of Aziziye, Zehra, Saidiye and Amiriyye were taken under control.

The participation of Terhune 9th Brigade strengthened Hafter's hand. The forces of Hafter moved to the capital with the brigade troops in Terhune and seized the towns of Suk al-Hamis, Suk es-Sebt, Suk al-Ehad, Es-Sebia.

The southern neighborhoods of Tripoli were falling down one by one, and there seemed to be no force to repel this progress which is coming from the east. After Kasr Bin Gashir Neighborhood, Hafter forces made great progress in Ayn Zara and Vadi er-Rebi neighborhoods. Later, some of the dormant cells in the region also supported the Hafter forces and captured the neighborhood of Es-Sevani.

The attack on the former strategic Tripoli Airport was followed by the advance of Hafter forces. A few days after Hafter's attack, Tripoli was like a wounded prey, preparing to breathe its last breath.

2. GNA troops repelling attacks

In the second week of the attacks, the capital took a sigh of relief, when Misrata(The city where Turkish roots/Kulogulları are most powerful) began to reach support to Tripoli and GNA troops from the cities of Zaviye and Zintan to the west. At the same time, the forces of the Hafter from the east were stopped and GNA started to defend around the center of the capital.

In the second stage, GNA forces started to take back the regions that they lost at the beginning of the attack and regained control in the districts of Verşefane, especially Aziziye. Sevani Neighborhood near the old airport was also rescued from Hafter forces.

During this period, GNA troops also cut a thousand kilometers of air and land supply lines of Hafter forces. Cufra Air Base, which Hafter forces used as ammunition depot, was targeted. Hafter forces was start to feeling Lack of ammunition and fuel while conflicts fronts difficulties getting even more.

This explains why the Hafter forces surrendered on many fronts, a decline in motivation, and some of them fleeing from conflict zones to their eastern families.

The forces of Hafter, who were on the verge of ending the Tripoli war in almost a few days, have been unable to achieve any tangible progress, except for the air strikes that have killed civilians and immigrants for months.

Now Hafter and his commanders future are at stake for war crimes judgement by the International Criminal Court (ICC) because of these attacks, targeting civilians and immigrants . This erroneous policy has pushed France, one of the international supporters, to an undecided position.

Hafter declined on all fronts on the western axis (Sevani, Zehra, Aziziye, Kerimiyye, Saidiye, Amiriyye, Hira). The breakthrough development in this context was that the Hafter forces lost Giryan in a surprise attack on June 26, located south of the capital, the center of operation.

uaedronelibya.png


3. The transition of Hafter forces from attack to defense

After stopping the attacks of Hafter troops, GNA forces started to re-seize the regions they lost and in the third stage they started to attack the Hafter regions. Hafter forces also moved from defense to defense.

In the early days of August, GNA troops advanced from eastern Tripoli to the outskirts of Terhune in the southeast of the capital, and for the first time forced the 9th Brigade to retreat outside the city's administrative borders.

GNA troops intensified their attacks on the positions of the 9th Brigade in Terhune and its vicinity.

However, the 9th Brigade also attacked the populated areas of the capital from the air. Dozens of civilians lost their lives in these attacks. The prisoners of GNA troops were subjected to lethal torture. Currently, information about the majority of these prisoners is not available.

- Implementation of the ancient military tactic in Terhune

Terhune is a key point, although the main goal of GNA is to move Hafter forces away from the southern suburbs of the capital. After the loss of Giryan, the control of the Hafter forces in Terhune, which became the center of operations of the Hafter forces, would mean the destruction of the front line of the Hafter forces.

When Terhune is seized, Hafter forces will now be besieged on all fronts and ammunition paths will be blocked. Thus, the 9th Brigade will have to withdraw its troops from the capital, Tripoli, to protect its city.

This reminds us of the military tactic that how the Romans prevailed in the Battle of Carthage in 218-201 BCE by preventing the transportation of supplies against Hannibal, the Carthaginian commander.

The attack on Terhune will also save GNA's capital. Thus the battlefield will change direction from the southern suburbs of Tripoli to the neighborhoods and streets of Terhune.

- The latest situation on the Terhune front

Terhune is almost besieged. GNA troops have been pressuring to cut off the supply line between Terhune and Kasr bin Gashir and the old airport by launching attacks from El-Kura Boli in the north and Es-Sebia and Suk al-Hamis in the west.

GNA troops can also attack Terhune from Misellata on the eastern front and cut off the supply line between Terhune and Beni Walid in the south.

Residents of Terhune have been suffering from water shortages for 4 months, as well as lack of fuel since the attacks on the capital. In addition, the city is experiencing financial problems. The continuation of the conflicts increases the siege status of the city, which has no airport or maritime transport.

The fall of the Terhune front is also key for GNA to regain control over Beni Walid air base. An attack on the strategically important Cufra Airbase from Beni Walid in the south of Tripoli can be carried out or the Hafter control in the cities and municipalities in the Fizan region in the southwest of the country can be terminated.

- Hafter situation in the southern regions

Hafter forces failed to maintain control despite the heavy air strikes in the city of Merzuk in Fizan, southwest of the country. This failure in the city of Merzuk can be regarded as an indication of the "fragility" of Hafter's control in the Fezzan region.

It may not be too difficult for GNA troops to take back this large and sparsely populated area if they deal with southern tribes. Especially given that Hafter had drawn a significant part of his troops to the north to concentrate on Tripoli.

- Situation of Hafter's allied brigades

When you look at the clashes that have left behind 5 months in Tripoli and its vicinity, it is seen that Hafter is not on the way to "victory is close", which he said before.

It is observed that Hafter's troops from the eastern part of the country have lost their enthusiasm for war and want to return home.

Zintan Brigades are divided in two as a results of attacks against Tripoli. This can lead to an outrage within them, and no one in the city can survive the civil war that will erupt in Terhune.

The commanders of the Verfefane Brigade, an ally of Hafter, were betrayed by an air raid on their cities of the 9th Brigade of Terhune. This shows a tough field of internal struggle between Hafter's allies, which are left.

The international pressure against Haftere, which does not seem very promising, is also on the rise. While France is backing down its support, Egypt does not want to take part in this blood-losing war. Egypt's deep economic problems may be another reason why this motivation is broken.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) situation is a matter of curiosity. It is not known to what extent Abu Dhabi will use the "moral legacy" of the relations established by the late Sheikh Zayid, the founder of the UAE, at the time of the international embargo on Libya.

After all,probably Hafter seems to have no other way than to negotiate to save himself, his troops and his country from the worst-case scenario.

graphics and content source : https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/dunya/trablusun-guneyinde-hezimete-ugrayan-hafter-cikis-ariyor/1582981
Bro, that's an obviously biased site. Go to some less biased site next time please.
 
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when he supported foreign powers in destruction of Libya and removal of gadafi now he will taste the result of his betrayal with country and u.s and their allies will eliminate him after using him like tissue paper.It is lesson for all rebels who are fighting for foreign forces and destroying their countries
 
Libyan warlord defeated in fierce battle with government forces over key city

Loss is blow to Khalifa Hafar, who is backed by Saudi Arabia, Egypt and United Arab Emirates, and victory for forces allied with Turkey and Qatar

Fierce fighting saw fighters loyal to the rebel Libyan warlord Khalifa Haftar lose control of a key city to forces loyal to the United Nations backed government.

Taken at the beginning of his two-and-a-half month campaign to take control of Tripoli, Gharyan overlooks the mountain pass leading from the capital to the country’s oil and water-rich south.

Fighters loyal to the Government of National Accord (GNA) posted videos online of them inside the city earlier this week. They were seen with young men they captured and described as pro-Haftar fighters, as well as inside what they described as the rebel officer’s operations room.


Other footage purported to show forces of Mr Haftar’s Libyan National Army (LNA) in a convoy speeding out of the city. Reports from the hospital in the city circulating in local media described casualties from both sides as well as civilians hurt in the crossfire.

Osama Jweili, a native of the nearby mountain city of Zintan and commander of the western armed forces, claimed the GNA forces had taken "full control" of the town, though Mr Haftar’s forces claimed they had only seceded partial control.

LNA commander Mabruk al-Ghazwi told local media that "sleeper cells" inside Gharyan had helped the government back forces.

He also conceded that Mr Hafar’s forces had moved their command-and-control facility to another location.

The surprise takeover of the town by the GNA could prove significant in the battle between the two sides, which had been mired in a stalemate. It could also serve as a disheartening blow to the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Russia, which have backed Mr Haftar as a strongman who could restore order to Libya.

Turkey and Qatar have supplied the GNA with weapons and diplomatic and financial support.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ity-loss-un-brokered-government-a8978126.html


Salame: ‘Haftar demanded guarantees for possible withdrawal from vicinity of Tripoli’

The UN envoy to Libya, Ghassan Salame, said that retired Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar demanded guarantees for a possible withdrawal from the vicinity of the capital Tripoli.

This came in an interview with the French newspaper Libération, published on Monday.

Salame stated that “weeks ago, the parties’ positions became more realistic and the issue is not only geographical any longer, as Haftar demanded guarantees for a possible withdrawal from the vicinity of Tripoli.”

Salame explained that “Haftar wants guarantees from the ruling parties in Tripoli, and requests making some appointments in important state posts in his favour.”

Salame added: “In return, parties are willing to negotiate with Haftar on the condition of the withdrawal of his forces.”

He continued: “However, other parties do not want to negotiate with Haftar, as they consider that the retired Field Marshall lost legitimacy to be an active doer in Libya when the conflict ends.”

Since 4 April, Haftar’s forces have staged a faltering offensive to take over Tripoli, the location of the headquarters of the internationally recognised Government of National Accord (GNA).

The attack on Tripoli led to the death of more than 1000 people and the displacement of more than 100000 civilians, according to the GNA.

Since 2011, Libya has been witnessing a struggle for legitimacy and power, currently concentrated between the GNA and Haftar.


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...possible-withdrawal-from-vicinity-of-tripoli/

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Original link for Sallame's interview : https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2...n-militaire-est-une-illusion-couteuse_1750052

( Libye : «La solution militaire est une illusion coûteuse» )
 
Bro, that's an obviously biased site. Go to some less biased site next time please.
do you remember, i said you that Turkey will never join into a war when they dont see the winning at the end, even though we all knew its against big powers like France and others..
You have no idea about Turkish culture... to be honest, i even believe Turkey help Iran to attack your oil refinery, because Iran doesnt have communication sattelites, they cannot fire drones to hit far eyes with accuracy... huge possibility that they used Turkish sattelite, or even some drone technology.. just to remind you, just a day later, Iran and Turkish president met in Istanbul...
it is kinda a message to Saudis to know their space by Turkey.. the thing is in our culture, we never stop. we just send every time little bit stronger message to be heard but seems like Arabic culture doesnt work like that... you obey to those when you see an attack from outsider and afraid the conflict. in our culture, once there is big attack, we will respond for sure, no matter what. but with message not to start the war(not the real one but hurting it non stop). because once it starts we know that we dont gain anything from hurting another Muslim country..
 
do you remember, i said you that Turkey will never join into a war when they dont see the winning at the end, even though we all knew its against big powers like France and others..
You have no idea about Turkish culture... to be honest, i even believe Turkey help Iran to attack your oil refinery, because Iran doesnt have communication sattelites, they cannot fire drones to hit far eyes with accuracy... huge possibility that they used Turkish sattelite, or even some drone technology.. just to remind you, just a day later, Iran and Turkish president met in Istanbul...
it is kinda a message to Saudis to know their space by Turkey.. the thing is in our culture, we never stop. we just send every time little bit stronger message to be heard but seems like Arabic culture doesnt work like that... you obey to those when you see an attack from outsider and afraid the conflict. in our culture, once there is big attack, we will respond for sure, no matter what. but with message not to start the war(not the real one but hurting it non stop). because once it starts we know that we dont gain anything from hurting another Muslim country..
I highly doubt Turkey helped Iran, but Israel would surely know who did what by now. Israel probably has informed Saudi Arabia with whatever intel it needs. Israel has deep intel inside all of MENA.

You don't know Arabs for shit nigga. For sure Saudi Arabia is planning retaliation with US and possibly with allies that will be 10x what Iran did. KSA has hundreds of cruise missiles on F-15s and Typhoons that they can use on Iran if need be. Only reason KSA didn't win yet in Yemen is because they don't kill other Arabs civilians indiscriminately like with what Turkey does with Kurds.
 
I highly doubt Turkey helped Iran, but Israel would surely know who did what by now. Israel probably has informed Saudi Arabia with whatever intel it needs. Israel has deep intel inside all of MENA.

You don't know Arabs for shit nigga. For sure Saudi Arabia is planning retaliation with US and possibly with allies that will be 10x what Iran did. KSA has hundreds of cruise missiles on F-15s and Typhoons that they can use on Iran if need be. Only reason KSA didn't win yet in Yemen is because they don't kill other Arabs civilians indiscriminately like with what Turkey does with Kurds.
Saudis has sooo much to loose than Iran... Saudis without oil supply will be dead and people will go against the MBS..
just recently Iran shoot the pipeline which Saudis constructed to use in case of war and to transfer oil to red sea...
Do you really believe that SA can do anything against Iran? too much dream...
Iran has Turkish culture which has been ruled by Turks for a thousand year. Honor is the most important thing. they would rather live but but respond. But, this is not the same for Saudi clowns... the most funny part is they dont even know where is the missile came from... you have your half of the oil production facility and you dont protect it? whom those patriots protect then? MBS? sooo funny... it is like a joke country for me, and day by day its getting more funny... seriously, why Saudis are like this? what do they eat or drink that has low nutritions in it?
 
do you know Why Ottoman and Iran didnt attack each others for more than 500 years? because they were both Turkish nation and knew that if they start it it will take forever...
But, Saudis, start war like playing games.. Libya, Sudan, Qatar, Turkey, Somali.... who left?
it will bite you back very bad...
 

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