Civil war in Ukraine: News & discussion

[vostok]

Junta terrorists became "saints" in one of the Lvov temples.

 

[Hindustani78]

Sure they do.

International armed conflicts

The definition of civilians as persons who are not members of the armed forces is set forth in Article 50 of Additional Protocol I, to which no reservations have been made. It is also contained in numerous military manuals. It is reflected in reported practice. This practice includes that of States not, or not at the time, party to Additional Protocol I.

Some practice adds the condition that civilians are persons who do not participate in hostilities. This additional requirement merely reinforces the rule that a civilian who participates directly in hostilities loses protection against attack (see Rule 6). However, such a civilian does not thereby become a combatant entitled to prisoner-of-war status and, upon capture, may be tried under national law for the mere participation in the conflict, subject to fair trial guarantees (see Rule 100).

Junta terrorists became "saints" in one of the Lvov temples.
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They do have their own church.
Picture shows the Kyiv Lavra church bell tower in the National Kyiv Pechersk Historical Cultural Preserve.
© Courtesy

 

[Superboy]

International armed conflicts

The definition of civilians as persons who are not members of the armed forces is set forth in Article 50 of Additional Protocol I, to which no reservations have been made. It is also contained in numerous military manuals. It is reflected in reported practice. This practice includes that of States not, or not at the time, party to Additional Protocol I.

Some practice adds the condition that civilians are persons who do not participate in hostilities. This additional requirement merely reinforces the rule that a civilian who participates directly in hostilities loses protection against attack (see Rule 6). However, such a civilian does not thereby become a combatant entitled to prisoner-of-war status and, upon capture, may be tried under national law for the mere participation in the conflict, subject to fair trial guarantees (see Rule 100).



They do have their own church.

Every rule has exceptions.

 

[Hindustani78]

Every rule has exceptions.

we are talking about international law during war time.

Terrorists don’t observe the truce | Міністерство оборони України
Sunday, April 5. DONBAS — The press center of the ‘anti-terror’ operation (ATO) HQ reports: on April, from 06:00 p.m. to 00:00 the situation was still tense in east of Ukraine. There were 14 times of the ceasefire violation. The rebels, primarily, used small arms. Meanwhile, they opened mortar fire and used armor vehicles.

The flashpoint was still near Donetsk. At 07:55 the pro-Russian illegal armed formations shelled by mortars the Ukrainian positions near Granitne. At 08:35 p.m. the enemy attacked the Ukrainian positions near Pisky and Opytne, as well as used small arms and grenade launchers near Mayorsk, Mariynka, Opytne and Avdiyvka. Moreover, the rebels used APC armament against the Ukrainian post near Spartak.

Lugansk: the flashpoint was near Sokilnyky, where the Ukrainian positions were attacked 5 times by small arms and one time by mortars.

Mariupil: there were no attacks. Four UAVs carried out the aerial reconnaissance.


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Sunday, April 5. MARIUPIL — EOD specialists participate actively in demining operations near communities, roads, agricultural fields and woods. In March they neutralized over 40 types of ordnance (82 — 300 mm) and checked over 150 km of roads.

Local citizens ask specialists to help them. The servicemen require to inform them about found mines and ordnance and not to touch them.

 

[Superboy]

we are talking about international law during war time.

Terrorists don’t observe the truce | Міністерство оборони України
Sunday, April 5. DONBAS — The press center of the ‘anti-terror’ operation (ATO) HQ reports: on April, from 06:00 p.m. to 00:00 the situation was still tense in east of Ukraine. There were 14 times of the ceasefire violation. The rebels, primarily, used small arms. Meanwhile, they opened mortar fire and used armor vehicles.

The flashpoint was still near Donetsk. At 07:55 the pro-Russian illegal armed formations shelled by mortars the Ukrainian positions near Granitne. At 08:35 p.m. the enemy attacked the Ukrainian positions near Pisky and Opytne, as well as used small arms and grenade launchers near Mayorsk, Mariynka, Opytne and Avdiyvka. Moreover, the rebels used APC armament against the Ukrainian post near Spartak.

Lugansk: the flashpoint was near Sokilnyky, where the Ukrainian positions were attacked 5 times by small arms and one time by mortars.

Mariupil: there were no attacks. Four UAVs carried out the aerial reconnaissance.


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Sunday, April 5. MARIUPIL — EOD specialists participate actively in demining operations near communities, roads, agricultural fields and woods. In March they neutralized over 40 types of ordnance (82 — 300 mm) and checked over 150 km of roads.

Local citizens ask specialists to help them. The servicemen require to inform them about found mines and ordnance and not to touch them.

there is no international law

 

[Hindustani78]

6 Ukrainian soldiers were killed by civilians yesterday.

Ukraine crisis: Six government soldiers killed in east - BBC News

In the Schastye incident, the four Ukrainian government troops are said to have died when their vehicle was hit as it drove across a bridge .

Initial reports said rebels "had fired an anti-tank missile", the interior ministry said in a statement.

In the mine explosion near Mariupol, two soldiers died at the scene while a third was wounded and taken to hospital, the army said.

On Saturday, the government reported the deaths of three soldiers in a mine explosion near Donetsk, another separatist stronghold.

Russia denies supporting the rebels with troops and heavy weapons (file photo)

A pro-Russian rebel stands guard near destroyed houses in the village of Lohvynove near the eastern Ukrainian town of Debaltseve on March 26, 2015.
© AFP

there is no international law

Ceasefire violations.

 

[Superboy]

Ceasefire violations.

There is no ceasefire agreement.

 

[Hindustani78]

Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky, the elected leaders of Donetsk and Luhansk, called for an end to Kyiv's embargo on government services in eastern Ukraine on Saturday.

In an open letter to Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Francois Hollande, they asked the leaders who helped negotiate the ceasefire in Ukraine to use their "influence to encourage Ukrainian offices to begin paying out welfare services to Donbass residents once again."

The government in Kyiv placed an embargo on social services to the country's eastern residents in November following what it deemed illegal elections that gave power to Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky.

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Why they fought and kill so many people and made millions homeless ?

 

[Superboy]

Why they fought and kill so many people and made millions homeless ?

Because of politics. Politics is power. Fighitng for power leads to deaths.

civlians

 

[Hindustani78]

Because of politics. Politics is power. Fighitng for power leads to deaths.

Its so easy to say like but over all those who were killed and become homeless they were Ukrainians . Corruption was the real reason and the person who did the corruption has already fled the country and the whole foundation of the establishment was shaken and land was annexxed.

 

[Superboy]

Its so easy to say like but over all those who were killed and become homeless they were Ukrainians . Corruption was the real reason and the person who did the corruption has already fled the country and the whole foundation of the establishment was shaken and land was annexxed.

Yanukovych never resigned. He says he is the legitimate president of Ukraine and one day he will return to power in Kiev. Millions of Ukrainians might get killed in this war but it'll get worse before it gets better.

 

[Hindustani78]

Yanukovych never resigned. He says he is the legitimate president of Ukraine and one day he will return to power in Kiev. Millions of Ukrainians might get killed in this war but it'll get worse before it gets better.

Thursday, April 22, 2010

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, left, and Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych at a news conference in Kharkiv, Ukraine. (Vladimir Rodionov/associated Press)

MOSCOW -- Ukraine's new president signed a deal Wednesday that allows Russia's Black Sea Fleet to stay in the country another 25 years, moving to ease a long-standing source of tension and giving Moscow its second foreign policy victory in the former Soviet Union this month.

Viktor Yanukovych and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, announced the breakthrough after a hastily scheduled summit in Kharkiv, Ukraine, saying that Ukraine will extend the lease on the Russian naval base in Sevastopol to 2042 in exchange for a steep discount on purchases of Russian natural gas.



It was this deal only which not only let for the annexation of Crimea but even loss of Donetsk and Lughansk and this was the main reason for Euro Maidan and tension in the whole region.

 

[Superboy]

It was this deal only which not only let for the annexation of Crimea but even loss of Donetsk and Lughansk and this was the main reason for Euro Maidan and tension in the whole region.

Ukraine will eventually lose. Many Ukrainians will die. Ukraine is too small to fight back against Russia.

 

[Hindustani78]

Ukraine will eventually lose. Many Ukrainians will die. Ukraine is too small to fight back against Russia.

They are fighting back to protect thier soveriginity and that border fencing is being placed because of that only and moving step closer towards NATO and EU.

 

[Superboy]

They are fighting back to protect thier soveriginity and that border fencing is being placed because of that only and moving step closer towards NATO and EU.

The EU and NATO never dare to fight Russia. Millions of Ukrainians could die from Russian invasion. Russia is like 30 times the size of Ukraine. Tha wall won't even stop RPGs and it won't run along the border in Donbas because anyone who tries to build a wall there gets killed by Russians because Russians control the border in Donbas.