Bangladesh on track to become upper-middle income country: WB envoy

[ThunderCat]

Don’t keep parroting same thing again and again. It’s already been debunked many times in the past.

No Bangladeshi has gone to Pakistan as there are no way to go there. All Bengalis living in Pakistan are Pakistani citizen and their ancestors were living in Pakistan pre-1977 period or the razakars and their decedents who sided with Pakistani army during 1971 war. They are your own people and deal with them.

Whole worlds know who committed war crimes which even your ex PM, academics, intellectuals and prominent citizen acknowledged

Do you expect me to believe the words of some wishful Binglo patriot like yourself or the ground realities? Not only did you people keep coming by the millions after 1971, you also brought your criminal culture with you.

Over two million Binglos here https://tribune.com.pk/story/322325/five-million-illegal-immigrants-residing-in-pakistan/

This source here from 2021 https://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=679

"Pakistan has been unable to deport illegal Bangladeshis, because Bangladesh does not take back citizens who have left the country illegally."

Basically dumping your problems on us.

"Pakistani employers reportedly prefer to hire the illegal workers because they are willing to work for lower wages."

So you'd prefer to work for our rupee over the thaka which you brag about having a higher exchange rate. Next thing you'll be bragging to Iranians how their rayals are even lower compared to your useless thaka. But I doubt that will convince any Iranian your shithole of a country can compare to theirs.

All the Bengalis who worked for my family came after 1971. They didn't come anytime before. Same for the neighbors living diagonal from us and same for the housemaid who works for my mother's parent.

You should save those BS stats for your people to see so you can convince them to return to your dumpster of a country where they belong.

As for the "war crimes" several books, including by your own people have refuted. Behind the Myth of Three Million was published in the mid 90s.

Dr. M. Abdul Mu’min Chowdhury is as Bangladeshi as you can get.

The only time your shithole ever had any progress was when West Pakistan built infrastructure, institutions, medical facilities for you. Your welcome.

In the meantime this is what Binglos bring your criminal culture to Pakistan. A Binglo drug gang busted by Sindh Police:

 

[Black_cats]

Do you expect me to believe the words of some wishful Binglo patriot like yourself or the ground realities? Not only did you people keep coming by the millions after 1971, you also brought your criminal culture with you.

Over two million Binglos here https://tribune.com.pk/story/322325/five-million-illegal-immigrants-residing-in-pakistan/

This source here from 2021 https://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=679

"Pakistan has been unable to deport illegal Bangladeshis, because Bangladesh does not take back citizens who have left the country illegally."

Basically dumping your problems on us.

"Pakistani employers reportedly prefer to hire the illegal workers because they are willing to work for lower wages."

So you'd prefer to work for our rupee over the thaka which you brag about having a higher exchange rate. Next thing you'll be bragging to Iranians how their rayals are even lower compared to your useless thaka. But I doubt that will convince any Iranian your shithole of a country can compare to theirs.

All the Bengalis who worked for my family came after 1971. They didn't come anytime before. Same for the neighbors living diagonal from us and same for the housemaid who works for my mother's parent.

You should save those BS stats for your people to see so you can convince them to return to your dumpster of a country where they belong.

As for the "war crimes" several books, including by your own people have refuted. Behind the Myth of Three Million was published in the mid 90s.

Dr. M. Abdul Mu’min Chowdhury is as Bangladeshi as you can get.

The only time your shithole ever had any progress was when West Pakistan built infrastructure, institutions, medical facilities for you. Your welcome.

In the meantime this is what Binglos bring your criminal culture to Pakistan. A Binglo drug gang busted by Sindh Police:

Those are wishful thinking of yours and some like minded people.

Bangladesh always take back illegal migration from Europe, Middle East or Malaysia etc if needed.

As I said just because someone said they are illegal citizen they doesn’t become one. I shared you documentary and reports where they claimed they or their ancestors were living in Pakistan pre 1971 period.

Plus Pakistani government has never shared record of these so called illegal migrants so that Bangladesh government can verify if such people lived in Bangladesh before or not as it’s the standard procedure.

Plus Pakistani government can not even explain how these so called 2 million illegals migrants went to Pakistan as there are no land route to Pakistan and not possible to go there other than that.

There are legal process ongoing to take back the citizenship which were revoked in late 1990s.

So you can keep this propaganda claim to yourself.

Bangladesh’s per capita gdp is almost twice that of Pakistan. It doesn’t make any sense of any Bangladeshis to go to Pakistan.

 

[ThunderCat]

Those are wishful thinking of yours and some like minded people.

Bangladesh always take back illegal migration from Europe, Middle East or Malaysia etc if needed.

As I said just because someone said they are illegal citizen they doesn’t become one. I shared you documentary and reports where they claimed they or their ancestors were living in Pakistan pre 1971 period.

Plus Pakistani government has never shared record of these so called illegal migrants so that Bangladesh government can verify if such people lived in Bangladesh before or not as it’s the standard procedure.

Plus Pakistani government can not even explain how these so called 2 million illegals migrants went to Pakistan as there are no land route to Pakistan and not possible to go there other than that.

There are legal process ongoing to take back the citizenship which were revoked in late 1990s.

So you can keep this propaganda claim to yourself.

Bangladesh’s per capita gdp is almost twice that of Pakistan. It doesn’t make any sense of any Bangladeshis to go to Pakistan.

The sources I posted prove otherwise.

There's a huge difference between migrants who came before 1971 and after 1971.

Up 50% of Bangladeshis live below the poverty line. The same number have no access to clean water. So they seem to prefer working as housemaids, paan sellers, drug peddlers and cleaners in Pakistan instead.

None of the Bangladeshis we knew came before 1971. They came in the 80s. How is that Bangladeshis can travel illegally as far as Europe but not to a much closer country which does not have a tight immigration prevention compared to Europe?

Even the sources I linked clearly state the border agencies in Pakistan are not effective enough against illegal migrants.

Not only did they come as illegal migrants, they also came as students. No Pakistani goes to Bangladesh to study. Those Pakistanis students you falsely cited were part of SARC exchange programs as a Pakistani already pointed out:

 

[Black_cats]

The sources I posted prove otherwise.

There's a huge difference between migrants who came before 1971 and after 1971.

Up 50% of Bangladeshis live below the poverty line. The same number have no access to clean water. So they seem to prefer working as housemaids, paan sellers, drug peddlers and cleaners in Pakistan instead.

None of the Bangladeshis we knew came before 1971. They came in the 80s. How is that Bangladeshis can travel illegally as far as Europe but not to a much closer country which does not have a tight immigration prevention compared to Europe?

Even the sources I linked clearly state the border agencies in Pakistan are not effective enough against illegal migrants.

Not only did they come as illegal migrants, they also came as students. No Pakistani goes to Bangladesh to study. Those Pakistanis students you falsely cited were part of SARC exchange programs as a Pakistani already pointed out:

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Bangladesh goes legally to Middle East or Africa and from there to Europe illegally. So both are different issue.

In 1980s there were not air route as well that much and those poor people won’t have the ability to buy air ticket.

Just because you are saying they came in 80s won’t change the reality. There might be few but not millions.

If Bengalis not Bangladeshis are poor that Pakistans own problem. If it comes to Bangladesh it has lower percentage of people living below poverty line than Pakistan so wonder both Bengalis and other ethnic origin people has higher poverty rate in Pakistan.

 

[mmr]

Lungi gets kulled like dogs but will still fencejump into India dreaming their sugar daddies will help them .
Lungis beg IMF for pocket change money and call others poor because their gobarment lied to them

Yawn

Desperate come back

India will help bd lol how a poorer country can help richer lmao

Sugardaddy are will millions they don’t live in slum like you guys lmao. That’s cringy coming from some one with per capita 2500 lolz

Mexico can’t help usa cant they

cow urine drink does take it toll lolz

 

[ThunderCat]

Bangladesh goes legally to Middle East or Africa and from there to Europe illegally. So both are different issue.

In 1980s there were not air route as well that much and those poor people won’t have the ability to buy air ticket.

Just because you are saying they came in 80s won’t change the reality. There might be few but not millions.

If Bengalis not Bangladeshis are poor that Pakistans own problem. If it comes to Bangladesh it has lower percentage of people living below poverty line than Pakistan so wonder both Bengalis and other ethnic origin people has higher poverty rate in Pakistan.

They came in the 70s, 80s, 90s and still come. How do they commence from the Middle East to Europe so easily, but not from Bangladesh to Pakistan?

The sources clear cut state it's in the millions.

Bangladesh is poorer percentage and numbers wise than most countries, including Pakistan.

Highest population density and highest levels of pollution.

I'd predict it becoming another Nigeria, but definitely nothing even close to Japan or anything like that.

But regardless, the migrants have no right to live there and Pakistan is already constrained with problems.

If Bangladesh is supposedly by any means a "better" country, they wouldn't come in the first place. But as the sources stated, Bangladesh does not take them back.

 

[Black_cats]

They came in the 70s, 80s, 90s and still come. How do they commence from the Middle East to Europe so easily, but not from Bangladesh to Pakistan?

The sources clear cut state it's in the millions.

Bangladesh is poorer percentage and numbers wise than most countries, including Pakistan.

Highest population density and highest levels of pollution.

I'd predict it becoming another Nigeria, but delicately nothing even close to Japan or anything like that.

But regardless, the migrants have no right to live there and Pakistan is already constrained with problems.

If Bangladesh is supposedly by any means a "better" country, they wouldn't come in the first place. But as the sources stated, Bangladesh does not take them back.

Not easily but using sea route by using boat. During Syrian refugee crisis many tried to go through Turkey. Many of those paid minimum 20-30 lakh taka for this to the traffickers. They are not poor to begin with.

That being said in 70s, 80s, 90s commutation was not easy and no direct connection for people to travel to Pakistan. I said the above numerous time.

Instead of having wet dream that Bangladeshis are going to your land of honey is your wishful thinking. Many of your poor Bengali poor people would jump to go back to Bangladesh if Bangladesh opens the gate due to the higher living standard in Bangladesh.

There are no comparison between Bangladesh and Pakistan now. It’s people like you who are responsible for this sorry state. Instead of looking at your own fault and correcting itself always pointed blame to others. Already a poster above of Pakistani origin pointed to you.

 

[@blue Ocean]

What an absolute cesspit, and this is the capital so one can imagine other cities. BD first need to become lower middle income before becoming upper middle income, right now its poorer than Africa.

Please do not write evil things about BD. The ISIS agent Paradise-dreaming @Bilal9 will pray to punish you in the Hell. That imbecile brat!!

I am waiting for his complains about Indian Cities. Idiot, criticize your own son to rectify him. But, he likes to spank India!!

 

[ThunderCat]

Not easily but using sea route by using boat. During Syrian refugee crisis many tried to go through Turkey. Many of those paid minimum 20-30 lakh taka for this to the traffickers. They are not poor to begin with.

That being said in 70s, 80s, 90s commutation was not easy and no direct connection for people to travel to Pakistan. I said the above numerous time.

Instead of having wet dream that Bangladeshis are going to your land of honey is your wishful thinking. Many of your poor Bengali poor people would jump to go back to Bangladesh if Bangladesh opens the gate due to the higher living standard in Bangladesh.

There are no comparison between Bangladesh and Pakistan now. It’s people like you who are responsible for this sorry state. Instead of looking at your own fault and correcting itself always pointed blame to others. Already a poster above of Pakistani origin pointed to you.

Wow they can commence from Middle East to Europe but not from Bangladesh to Pakistan?

I agree there is no comparison between Bangladesh and Pakistan. A country with the highest population density, over half living below poverty line with no clean water.

Highest levels of pollution.

A country that imports machinery, weapons and medical equipment from the country it's supposedly "better" than.

Even before 1971, much of the infrastructure was built by West Pakistan.

This is why your people come by the millions as stated by the sources I posted. You did nothing to counter them except with your "Bangladesh is 'better' than Pakistan. Somehow. Just somehow."

The fact is Bangladeshis would rather work as housemaids, drug dealers or anything in Pakistan rather than live in their shitty country.

Even those Muhajir neo-liberals who falsely promote your country out of frustration would never go live there. In fact they wanted your people out of Karachi after the crime spike in the 90s.

All one has to do is work legally in Bangladesh legally for four years to apply for citizenship. But no Pakistan would ever go there.

The ones that have been there are disgusted by what a dirty place it is.

 

[Nasr]

What exactly did West Pakistan military do wrong? Yes they did commit war crimes, but most of the war crimes came from the Bangladeshi side.

This is a silly excuse. If Bangladesh is doing so great, they should stop dumping their migrants on Pakistan. In the meantime no Pakistani wants to immigrate to the dump that is Bangladesh.

Nobody really for that matter wants to live in Bangladesh. In the meantime our country is the dumping ground for migrants.

Prior to the refugee crisis in Europe, Pakistan was the country with the largest refugee population. Now it's Turkey.

Your excuses are getting repetitive and hollow. What goes around, comes around. The establishment is responsible for many a debacle .... they have been dealing with the devil far too long. If they continue on this path .... then payback will be worse than they could imagine.

 

[ThunderCat]

Your excuses are getting repetitive and hollow. What goes around, comes around. The establishment is responsible for many a debacle .... they have been dealing with the devil far too long. If they continue on this path .... then payback will be worse than they could imagine.

What excuses? That these MB terrorists were not given a free pas to murder innocent civilians, including ethnic Bengalis? She's an ethnic Bengali from West Bengal FFS:

Another one of several books refuting the 1971 war myths:

 

[saif]

A country with the highest population density, over half living below poverty line with no clean water.

Can you prove it, brother?

 

[Black_cats]

What excuses? That these MB terrorists were not given a free pas to murder innocent civilians, including ethnic Bengalis? She's an ethnic Bengali from West Bengal FFS:

Another one of several books refuting the 1971 war myths:

If you would have some Shane left you would not talk about it.

Bangladesh has GDP of 460 billion usd and Pakistan has 376 billion usd despite having 25-30% less population.

World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data

data.worldbank.org

Bangladesh has per capita GDP 2688 USD and Pakistan has 1596.7 USD almost half of Bangladesh.

Now let’s talk about poverty:

This is poverty in Pakistan:

Poverty in Pakistan has been recorded by the World Bank at 39.3% using the lower middle-income poverty rate of US$3.2 per day, and 78.4% using the upper middle-income poverty rate of US$5.5 per day, for the fiscal year 2020–21.[1] In September 2021, the government stated that 22% percent of its population lives below the national poverty line[2] set at Rs. 3030(US$10) per month.[3]

Poverty in Pakistan - Wikipedia

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Where as in Bangladesh it is below 20%

For access to clean water Pakistan is way lagged behind than Bangladesh:

Bangladesh:

3.79 million people don't have clean water.

Bangladesh | WaterAid Global

It isn't always easy to get clean water, find a decent toilet or practise good hygiene in Bangladesh. Find out how WaterAid is working to change that.

www.wateraid.org

Pakistan:

21.7 million people don't have clean water.​

That's 1 in 10 people.

Pakistan | WaterAid Global

Pakistan is making impressive progress in improving access to clean water, decent toilets and good hygiene. Find out how WaterAid helps make change happen.

www.wateraid.org

Pakistans HDI is .544 where as it’s .661 for Bangladesh

If you have any Shane left won’t try to compare Pakistan with Bangladesh

 

[ThunderCat]

If you would have some Shane left you would not talk about it.

Bangladesh has GDP of 460 billion usd and Pakistan has 376 billion usd despite having 25-30% less population.

World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data

data.worldbank.org

Bangladesh has per capita GDP 2688 USD and Pakistan has 1596.7 USD almost half of Bangladesh.

Now let’s talk about poverty:

This is poverty in Pakistan:

Poverty in Pakistan has been recorded by the World Bank at 39.3% using the lower middle-income poverty rate of US$3.2 per day, and 78.4% using the upper middle-income poverty rate of US$5.5 per day, for the fiscal year 2020–21.[1] In September 2021, the government stated that 22% percent of its population lives below the national poverty line[2] set at Rs. 3030(US$10) per month.[3]

Poverty in Pakistan - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Where as in Bangladesh it is below 20%

For access to clean water Pakistan is way lagged behind than Bangladesh:

Bangladesh:

3.79 million people don't have clean water.

Bangladesh | WaterAid Global

It isn't always easy to get clean water, find a decent toilet or practise good hygiene in Bangladesh. Find out how WaterAid is working to change that.

www.wateraid.org

Pakistan:

21.7 million people don't have clean water.​

That's 1 in 10 people.

Pakistan | WaterAid Global

Pakistan is making impressive progress in improving access to clean water, decent toilets and good hygiene. Find out how WaterAid helps make change happen.

www.wateraid.org

Pakistans HDI is .544 where as it’s .661 for Bangladesh

If you have any Shane left won’t try to compare Pakistan with Bangladesh

1 in 10 people is roughly 10% compared to Bangladesh's nearly 50% if not more.

There is no robust evidence Bangladesh's GDP per capita is higher than Pakistan. But there is robust evidence the stats are fake and sourced to the Bangladeshi government.

Since you mentioned shame, why would you compare yourself to a country you buy products from, where your people went to study, even though not as much anymore. Where your people migrate to illegally rather than stay back and enjoy your economic 'superiority.'

These threads are only full of empty claims, no evidence. Most of these stats are rubbish and usually contradicted.

"GDP is an indicator of a society’s standard of living, but it is only a rough indicator because it does not directly account for leisure, environmental quality, levels of health and education, activities conducted outside the market, changes in inequality of income, increases in variety, increases in technology, or the—positive or negative—value that society may place on certain types of output."

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[Muji.Iqbal]

Good, we wish Bangladesh the best. Insh'Allah Allah will help Bangladesh prosper.