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Bangladesh arrests four for caning, stoning woman over affair

Unelected govt! Ask them to contest in a free and fair election! It they can't do it , the the isn't too far when people will beat them as sri Lankan did!


2. If not for you the BAL or BNP which is the other one(s) ? The Communists ?
I want semi presidential form of government! One of these parties should be Gano Odhikar porishod!

And rest should be established during Younus regime ( or whoever will be the head)


Come on, the BAL government is not Modi government or USA government to track people or do internet shutdows
They are worse than them! Remember @jamahir , sands are always hotter than sun itself!

At least modi was elected by the vote of Indians!

Recently what they had done with the daily prothom alo is the worst thing a country can face!

We aren't Chinese who were always under rule of emperor!

We are a nation fought freedom war because of our democracy!
 
Again. The verse related to stoning was not allowed to be entered into Quran by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) himself but its ruling was applied whenever a case of adultery happened

Brother areesh , not withstanding, whether this stoning penalty is enjoined in Al Quran or not , I urge you to revisit your stance . A prophet or messenger under no circumstances "can force" The Almighty to exclude or include anything in the Scripture as his sole job is to deliver the message . There are some stern warnings in the Al Quran .


Besides, hadees or any jurist and his exegis can never be a substitute for Al Quran. Because if that's the case then we have to consider hadees as a Revelation and there's no concept of dual revelation.
 
Brother areesh , not withstanding, whether this stoning penalty is enjoined in Al Quran or not , I urge you to revisit your stance . A prophet or messenger under no circumstances "can force" The Almighty to exclude or include anything in the Scripture as his sole job is to deliver the message . There are some stern warnings in the Al Quran .


Besides, hadees or any jurist and his exegis can never be a substitute for Al Quran. Because if that's the case then we have to consider hadees as a Revelation and there's no concept of dual revelation.

I also ask you to read my last few posts again. I never said Prophet (SAW) forced almighty to include or exclude anything. You simply misunderstood my posts

Thank you
 
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Unelected govt! Ask them to contest in a free and fair election! It they can't do it

Revolutionary changes don't come through elections in most cases. You answer this yourself later :
We aren't Chinese who were always under rule of emperor!

We are a nation fought freedom war because of our democracy!

the the isn't too far when people will beat them as sri Lankan did!

There was an enlightening tweet by a Sri Lankan during the crisis. The tweet was shown on the Indian program Prime Time with Ravish on NDTV news channel. The program was hosted by the wonderful journalist, Ravish Kumar, who left NDTV after it was purchased by the crooked Capitalist Gautam Adani.

The tweet said something like "Two working class people will fight each other and it is not they but the upper class which benefits from this fight".

I want semi presidential form of government! One of these parties should be Gano Odhikar porishod!

1. What type of party is this ?

2. The Anglo-derived
resident and prime minister type of system is not democracy but an illusion of democracy. True democracy was like was in Libyan Jamahiriya until the massive invasion of 2011. In this thread of mine you will find my reasoning as to what Democracy is and how it was practiced in Libya.

And rest should be established during Younus regime ( or whoever will be the head)

Please don't ignore my previous point about Younus being a tool of NATO and that none of the customers of micro-lending system would have become millionaires. :)

Hasina has said this of him :
“They were accompanied by another person who built a business out of accumulating interest on loans. That person was dear to the United States. The US never raised the question of how the MD of Grameen Bank, a legally registered social business organisation, had millions of dollars. Did they ever ask about the source of money at home and abroad?”

They are worse than them! Remember @jamahir , sands are always hotter than sun itself!

At least modi was elected by the vote of Indians!

Multiple political parties, elections and voting does not mean democracy. You say Modi was elected by the vote of Indians but I didn't vote for him nor did millions so how is he able to say and do things not acceptable by us and not put forth to us to consider and opine ?

Recently what they had done with the daily prothom alo is the worst thing a country can face!

What they have done ? Well, Hasina has said this.

You're a Quranist now?? 😂 😂

I was always a Quranist. I knew that a man called Muhammad who loved the sublime cats couldn't be cruel to humans including women and couldn't be the one who maintained priesthood and promoted cringey displays of fake piousness. :)

The below section from my thread from 2016 whose OP is an article by Nadeem Paracha, is about a scholar who was also a Quranist :
Building upon the initial thoughts of Sindhi and Sihwarwl were perhaps South Asia’s two most ardent and articulate supporters and theoreticians of Islamic Socilaism: Ghulam Ahmed Parvez and Dr. Khalifa Abdul Hakim.

Parvez was a prominent ‘Quranist’, or an Islamic scholar who insisted that for the Muslims to make progress in the modern world, Islamic thought and laws should be entirely based on the modern interpretations of the Qu’ran and on the complete rejection of the hadith (sayings of the Prophet and his companions based on hearsay and compiled over a 100 years after the Prophet’s demise).

After studying traditional Muslim texts, as well as Sufism, Parvez claimed that almost all hadiths were fabrications by those who wanted Islam to seem like an intolerant faith and by ancient Muslim kings who used these hadiths to give divine legitimacy to their tyrannical rules.

Parvez also insisted that Muslims should spend more time studying the modern sciences instead of wasting their energies on fighting out ancient sectarian conflicts or ignoring the true egalitarian and enlightening spirit of the Qu’ran by indulging in multiple rituals handed down to them by ancient ulema, clerics and compilers of the hadith.

Understandably, Parvez was right away attacked by conservative Islamic scholars and political outfits.

But this didn’t stop famous Muslim philosopher and poet, Muhammad Iqbal, to befriend the young scholar and then introduce him to the future founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

Jinnah appointed Parvez to edit a magazine, Talu-e-Islam. It was set-up to propagate the creation of a separate Muslim country and to also answer the attacks that Jinnah’s All India Muslim League had begun to face from conservative Islamic parties and ulema who accused the League of being a pseudo-Muslim organisation and Jinnah for being too westernised and ‘lacking correct Islamic behavior.’

Apart from continuing to author books and commentaries on the Qu’ran, Parvez wrote a series of articles in Talu-e-Islam that propagated a more socialistic view of the holy book.

In a series of essays for the magazine he used verses from the Qu’ran, incidents from the faith’s history and insights from the writings of Muhammad Iqbal to claim:

The clergy and conservative ulema have hijacked Islam.

They are agents of the rich people and promoters of uncontrolled Capitalism.

Socialism best enforces Qur’anic dictums on property, justice and distribution of wealth.

Islam’s main mission was the eradication of all injustices and cruelties from society. It was a socio-economic movement, and the Prophet was a leader seeking to put an end to the capitalist exploitation of the Quraysh merchants and the corrupt bureaucracy of Byzantium and Persia.

According to the Qur’an, Muslims have three main responsibilities: seeing, hearing and sensing through the agency of the mind. Consequently, real knowledge is based on empirically verifiable observation, or through the role of science.

Poverty is the punishment of God and deserved by those who ignore science.

In Muslim/Islamic societies, science, as well as agrarian reform should play leading roles in developing an industrialised economy.

A socialist path is a correction of the medieval distortion of Islam through Shari’a.


Parvez joined the government after the creation of Pakistan in 1947, but after Jinnah’s death in 1948, he was sidelined until he resigned from his post in 1956.
 
This is not a Muslim or Islamic law rather a traditional local law which was adopted by later Muslim rulers. But from Jews and Christian perspective it was a religious law. No where in Quran it instruct to stone someone but Bible does.

Then why Muslims are using other`s laws?

2nd, after Africa and Mexico, All south asian countries are TATTI States.
 
Bro that guy got exposed by Farid Speaks 🤣🤣


Brother, that Doctor isn't paying me for a change of heart and its not about Doctor Hany alone as plenty of others are also coming forward with proofs challenging the Muslim priesthood and their mumbo jumbos which is nothing short of saint Paul mixing his volumes of opinions with that of the prophet Jesus. They write a book by their own hands and then claim it is from The Almighty .


Case in point, Quranic verse about eating and drinking during Ramadan until the white thread becomes manifest and breaking the fast only when Layl, NIGHT, takes over. Now good luck with making a mullah from any mad-hub coming to terms with this simplest of the verses which is specifically dealing with a natural phenomeon/fitrah and providing you with around 30-35 extra minutes even after Adhaan to do our things with ease and not just start swallowing food in large mouth fulls like bunch of retards the moment Adhaan starts



He's prolly gonna cite some hadith by completing bypassing Al Quran that , how you gotta stop eating etc with adhaan fajar and commence with sunset and not Layl, night .
 
Then why Muslims are using other`s laws?

2nd, after Africa and Mexico, All south asian countries are TATTI States.
That was a local law of Madina at that time. Beside many early Jews and Christian converts wanted to keep that tradition.
 
That was a local law of Madina at that time. Beside many early Jews and Christian converts wanted to keep that tradition.

Maybe this is just a Sunni problem too like how Qadiyanis are just a Sunni problem.

What if this woman liked being spanked/canned?
 
Hazrat Muhammad had a beloved cat named Muezza and there was his comrade called Abu Huraira ( "Father of baby cats" ) because he used to carry baby cats on his shoulders.
Show this from Quran
 
Show this from Quran

Show this from Quran :
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What they have done ? Well, Hasina has said this.
@jamahir , what they have done?

Well nobody in Bangladesh forget that it's prothom alo and daily star who were responsible for 1/11 with the help of USA, that give Hasina her throne! ( That time USA and NATO were angels , I'm convinced!)

Didn't Hasina said this on that article? ;)
 

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