LoC flare up: August 2013

[Zarvan]

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan should give those to our soldiers on front posts with India or similar like them along with RPG and Snipers and Anti Bunker weapons and Anti Tank to hit back to Indians @Aeronaut @Leader @Antibody @nuclearpak @Oscar @Areesh @Zakii and others

 

[Zarvan]

New Delhi: On the intervening night of August 5 and 6, five Indian soldiers were killed on the Line of Control (LoC) sparking off outrage across India, a furore in Parliament, and bloody skirmishes between the Indian and Pakistani armies that have claimed several lives since. CNN-IBN has exclusive detail on internal Army investigations, which says the soldiers on the ill-fated patrol were shot dead at point-blank range as they slept.
As the soldiers slept, tired from a long patrol, they were unaware that death was closing in around them. The one man they left on guard took a break to relieve himself. He came back to find his comrades executed at point blank range, some with even three bullets through the head.
Internal Army investigations into the lethal ambush that claimed the lives of five Indian soldiers earlier has pieced together the story of the cold-blooded killings that have set the Line of Control on fire.

The ill-fated patrol left Cheeta post, near the Poonch village of Khari Karmara, meaning to familiarise newly-posted soldiers with the area. They stopped at Delta Post, a post half-way to the Army's main position at Begum. Five soldiers decided to get some sleep for the night, expecting no trouble in this normally incident-free area. Sambhaji Kute, the sole survivor, was on guard duty, but left to relieve himself with the trap closed.
"If the infiltration is on low ebb in certain areas or certain times, then the troops tend to take it easy. Therefore, you need to exercise greater supervision and greater vigilance," said military expert Mandeep Bajwa.
Experts say the return of relative peace in Kashmir may have led security personnel to be less careful than usual. Earlier this year, as a video shows, terrorists who killed eight soldiers moved about on a Srinagar street for several minutes, unchallenged after the killings.
Army headquarters in New Delhi declined to respond to multiple requests for comment from CNN-IBN, saying only that an official investigation was on.
Ever since 2008, soon after Parvez Ashfaq Kayani became Pakistan's Army chief, skirmishes have increased steadily. In January, following the beheading of two Indian soldiers, tensions reached a new level and now, there's fighting up and down the 740 kilometre Line of Control. It is reminiscent of the bad days before the 2003 ceasefire, when hundreds died each year in artillery fire. Now the soldiers and their families can only pray the worst isn't yet to come.
Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they slept

 

[Zarvan]

Both sides of the LoC are armed to the teeth, forward posts can receive more firepower easily, all we need is the will.

People should surround these parliament and pressure government to ask to response with full force to any attack or firing by Indian side

 

[Argus Panoptes]

Both sides of the LoC are armed to the teeth, forward posts can receive more firepower easily, all we need is the will.

Any escalation is bound to be only temporary. Why raise the temperature in the kitchen when both sides cannot afford a bigger fire?

 

[Roybot]

People should surround these parliament and pressure government to ask to response with full force to any attack or firing by Indian side

You think they aren't already??

 

[Jungibaaz]

People should surround these parliament and pressure government to ask to response with full force to any attack or firing by Indian side

We shouldn't be warmongering like they are.

But for sure, the government needs to be put under pressure, it's as if it has left all security matters for the army to deal, no political backing for anything.

Any escalation is bound to be only temporary. Why raise the temperature in the kitchen when both sides cannot afford a bigger fire?

True, but for all our calm, all we've got is the death of our soldiers.

All while the other side continuous to cook up all sorts of ridiculous stories pitched through their media to make it look like we are escalating.

 

[Zarvan]

Any escalation is bound to be only temporary. Why raise the temperature in the kitchen when both sides cannot afford a bigger fire?

Sir they have killed our soldiers Sir they would pay the price their soldiers would be hunted down soon

 

[Argus Panoptes]

..........

True, but for all our calm, all we've got is the death of our soldiers.

All while the other side continuous to cook up all sorts of ridiculous stories pitched through their media to make it look like we are escalating.

I am not advocating calm. I am advocating aggressive political and international steps, not a tit for tat on the LoC, from our side.
Fight SMARTER, not harder.

 

[Zarvan]

I am not advocating calm. am advocating aggressive political and international steps, not a tit for tat on the LoC, from our side.
Fight SMARTER, not harder.

Sir we fight both because India understand language of guns more than anything else Sir they kill one we hit back and kill at least 8 than ask them to shut up or they would loose more

 

[Huda]

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani army said one of its soldiers was killed on Thursday in “unprovoked” Indian fire along the border dividing the disputed territory of Kashmir, in the second such incident within two days.
A Pakistani soldier was killed "due to Indian troops unprovoked firing at the Line of Control (LoC) on Thursday," according to a statement by the Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) which added that, "Indian troops resorted to unprovoked firing at the LoC in Rakhchakri sector near Rawlakot at 1150 hours today."
On the other hand an Indian army officer said that Indian troops had responded after receiving gunfire from Pakistani soldiers, and the exchange lasted three hours.
He spoke on condition of anonymity in line with military policy.
The latest development comes a day after Pakistan asked India to stop further ceasefire violations in a message delivered to the Indian deputy high commissioner Gopal Bagley after he was summoned to the Foreign Office to receive a demarche over the latest ceasefire violation in the Shaqma sector, near Skardu, in which a Pakistan Army officer was killed and a soldier critically wounded.
The recent flareup started two weeks back when five Indian soldiers were killed along the Line of Control, which is a UN-monitored de facto border dividing Kashmir between India and Pakistan.
India said the five were killed by Pakistani forces but Pakistan denied involvement and the government has issued a series of conciliatory statements.
The incident was followed by a series of ceasefire violations along the LoC with casualties sustained on both sides of the border. Both countries engaged in allegations, denials and counter allegations over the firing incidents.
“Pakistan will also continue to seek dialogue and resolution of all outstanding issues with India peacefully,” the Pakistani government said in a statement on Thursday.
“The ceasefire should be maintained in letter and spirit.
All military and diplomatic channels should be used to prevent ceasefire violations,” it added.
Both countries control a part of the Muslim-majority Kashmir region but claim it in full.
India says this year it has seen a spike in attempts by militants to infiltrate into its part of Kashmir.

 

[Zarvan]

 

[karan.1970]

Sir they have killed our soldiers Sir they would pay the price their soldiers would be hunted down soon

Looks like the shoe on the other foot is not feeling comfortable at all...Why am I not surprised

 

[Zarvan]

Looks like the shoe on the other foot is not feeling comfortable at all...Why am I not surprised

You would be more uncomfortable when we would strike back and make many of your soldiers history INSHALLAH

 

[karan.1970]

You would be more uncomfortable when we would strike back and make many of your soldiers history INSHALLAH

Sure.. I would be and then Inshallah many many more of yours will get killed by Indian Army.. You and I on the other hand will shut down our respective laptops and go out for dinner.. What fun.. Innit ?