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Pushback Against “Islamophobia” Narrative: How New Law In France Prevents Islamists From Accusing State Of Racism And Claim Victimhood

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  • Despite strong criticism of the crackdown on Islamism from the left-wing as well as Muslim countries around the world, Macron seems unfazed, powered by strong public opinion at home.

For a long time now, national governments across the world have been trying to tackle the challenge of radical Islamism, and how to balance modern, secular, pluralistic values with monism promoted by extreme religious beliefs.

France, known for its model of secularism, whose political developments are looked up to by the countries since the French Revolution of 1789, seems committed to another experiment that could possibly serve as a template for others in the future.

French President Emmanuel Macron had sparked a controversy last year by his defence of freedom of expression and attack on "radical Islam" and "Islamist separatism" in the wake of the brutal beheading of school teacher Samuel Paty.

There was an outcry from the Muslim world against Macron’s statements. In India too, protests were carried out by Muslim groups against Macron and France.

Macron made it clear in no uncertain terms that France will not give in to Islamism. In an October 2020 speech, he said that “Islamic separatism” was quietly making inroads in the country and creating a “counter society.” He also called for a "rapid and coordinated" European response to the Islamist terror attacks.

Post the beheading of a French middle-school teacher, Samuel Paty in Paris, the French government temporarily shut down the grand mosque of Pantin outside the city which had circulated a video targeting Paty. The beheading is just one in a spate of terror attacks that have rocked the country — most of them low intensity, lone-wolf type.

Islamism has reportedly claimed more than 200 French lives in the past eight years. In a recent nationwide survey in the country, close to 80 per cent of respondents agreed that “Islamism is at war with France”.

Soon after Macron’s speech, France began an intense crackdown on the Islamists.

In December 2020, the government began investigating at least 76 mosques for spreading radicalism. Additionally, more than 2,600 Muslim places of worship were reportedly flagged as "possible threats to France's republican values and security".

The country also began hunting undocumented immigrants suspected to be radicalised. Reportedly, 66 of them were expelled, 46 were in administrative detention centres, 30 were placed under house arrest and five were in jail.

In December 2020, Macron unveiled a draft law, called the Law Reinforcing Respect of the Principles of the Republic, to tackle ‘radical Islamism’ (albeit the word Islamism is not used in the text), and “to reinforce Republican principles”. The law proposes around 1,700 amendments, which are wide-ranging.

While the law applies to all religions, it is the Muslim groups and countries that voiced the most vehement criticism.

While introducing the bill in the legislature, interior minister Gerald Darmanin, the bill’s sponsor, said the bill’s aim was to stop “an Islamist hostile takeover targeting Muslims", while clarifying that it was not against any religion. “Our country is suffering from a sickness of separatism, first and foremost an Islamist separatism that is like gangrene infecting our national unity,” he said.

Some important provisions of the draft law include:
  • It empowers the government to permanently close houses of worship and dissolve religious organizations, without court order, if it finds that any of their members are provoking violence or inciting hatred.
  • Oversight in the functioning of associations and mosques, including foreign financing. Foreign funding isn’t banned but they have to declare it and have their accounts certified annually.
  • The government would be able to exercise supervision over the training of imams, and have greater powers to shut down places of worship receiving public subsidies if they go against “republican principles” such as gender equality.
  • Moderate community leaders targeted by an extremist “putsch” could receive protection.
  • Protecting children from indoctrination and to do away with underground schools by mandating that all children from age three attend a regular school (around 50,000 children were home-schooled in 2020, according to French media, but the number of “clandestine schools” where children are reportedly indoctrinated in radical ideology is unknown).
  • A close watch on associations, including those that run mosques, by mandating the state-funded to sign a “contract of Republican commitment”, and ensuring that outsiders can’t take control of an association. Religious organizations would have to obtain government permits every five years to continue operating.
  • The “Charter of Principles for Islam of France" requires the signatories to reject all forms of political Islam, including Salafism, as well as ideologies linked to national and transnational organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood.
  • It rejects any use of mosques for disseminating nationalist speeches defending foreign regimes and supporting foreign policies hostile to France or its citizens and compatriots.
  • Most importantly, the Charter knocks the wind out of the ‘Islamophobia’ narrative by describing as “defamatory” any attempt by Muslims to accuse the state of racism or claim victimhood.
  • Any group that violates the charter would face ejection from all the representative bodies of Islam of France.
  • The law, keeping in mind the Paty beheading, creates a new crime for hate speech online in which someone’s personal details are posted.
  • It bans the practice of polygamy and forced marriage, discrimination based on sexual orientation, and bars doctors from giving virginity certificates.
  • France already had a ban on state employees displaying “conspicuous” religious symbols such as the crucifix or hijab. This will now be extended to any sub-contracted public service.
(Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)

In recent months, France has ousted the leadership of a mosque after temporarily closing it and investigating its finances; asked the mosque authorities to appoint women to the board of its governing association; forced another mosque to give up millions in subsidies; and closed down dozen others temporarily for safety or fire-code violations.

While the law has been strongly criticised by the left-wing ideologues for ‘stigmatising’ the Muslim community; and by the Muslims leaders around the world as ‘racist’ and ‘Islamophobic’, Macron seems unfazed, powered by strong public opinion at home.

Some sections of the Muslim community also welcomed the law, calling it “useful, necessary to fight those who want to use associations” to counter French values. Others called it “unjust but necessary”. The head of the Foundation of Islam, a secular organization representing a progressive Islam, Ghaleb Bencheikh, said:

“..It [the law] is necessary because the French society, the French nation is traumatized by attacks and the reality of radical Islam.. While radicals are a minority, it’s the minorities that make up history.”
 
Simple point. It was the French government, along with other Western governments, which provided refuge and support to those among Muslims who were regressive and involved in acts of crime in progressive Muslim-majority countries. So the French government is being bitten by the snakes it reared.

OTOH the French government acted against progressive, revolutionary people from around the world who supported progressive Muslim-majority countries and movements.
 
I must take this opportunity to thank China for the leadership role it has played in helping the world deal with islamic terror and addressing Islamophobia.

If China had not done what it has done and taught the world how to deal with islamic trouble makers in china, the west would never have had the courage to make a law like this.

China has finally championed its cause successfully and has managed to turn world opinion towards taking firmer action to address this widespread problem. For all the evils of communism and one party rule, this is one of the few things china has taught the west. :china:

Chinas determination and its no nonsense approach is the inspiration for most other nations including India to learn how to deal with this. :tup:
 
I must take this opportunity to thank China for the leadership role it has played in helping the world deal with islamic terror and addressing Islamophobia.

If China had not done what it has done and taught the world how to deal with islamic trouble makers in china, the west would never have had the courage to make a law like this.

China has finally championed its cause successfully and has managed to turn world opinion towards taking firmer action to address this widespread problem. For all the evils of communism and one party rule, this is one of the few things china has taught the west. :china:

Chinas determination and its no nonsense approach is the inspiration for most other nations including India to learn how to deal with this. :tup:

Why don't you ask China and the West to import the very intellectual and progressive Hindutva groups like Bajrang Dal, Sri Rama Sena, Hindu Yuva Vahini etc ? :-)

In fact SpaceX should listen to those groups on how to arrange society for near-future Mars settlements. :tup:
 
Very nice and useful step. Seems like French legislators has no work remaining to do.
 
Very nice and useful step. Seems like French legislators has no work remaining to do.

Why blame the French ? Recently held SCO a.k.a Shanghai Cooperation Council too discussed Islamic terrorism and ways and means to end it.

China is a leading light in helping the world address this matter.

Thank you China for providing this Platform to help India deal with islamic terrorism. :agree:

Pak embarrassed at SCO, NSA Doval proposes action plan against LeT, JeM as part of SCO framework

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Dushanbe [Tajikistan], June 24 (ANI): National Security Advisor (NSA) Ajit Doval did some tough talk in Dushanbe at the SCO NSA meet and urged SCO to bring action plan against Pakistan based terror outfits Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed as part of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) framework.

According to sources, NSA Doval proposed that an action plan against LeT and JeM as part of the SCO framework. He emphasised the adoption of international standards to counter terror financing including an MOU between SCO and Financial Action Task Force (FATF).

Over the last two decades, LeT and Jaish have planned and executed a number of attacks in India, which include the 26/11 Mumbai attack and also on the Indian parliament. These groups are actively engaged in promoting infiltration in Jammu and Kashmir and also indoctrinating youth across India, these groups are also accused of being involved in terror financing.

Interestingly, NSA Doval talked about action against Pakistan-based outfits at the SCO meet where his Pakistan counterpart Moeed Yusuf was also participating.

The FATF plenary is going on in Paris and is soon going to decide on keeping Pakistan on the grey list or putting it on its blacklist. Furthermore, NSA Doval strongly condemned terrorism in all forms and manifestations. Perpetrators of terrorism including cross-border terror attacks should be expeditiously brought to justice, he said.

He also underlined the need for full implementation of UN resolutions and targeted sanctions against UN-designated terrorist individuals and entities. Need to monitor new technologies used by terrorists including drones for smuggling of weapons and misuse of dark web, artificial intelligence, blockchain and social media, NSA Doval told SCO members.

NSA Doval also highlighted in the SCO NSA meet that greater connectivity including through initiatives like Chahbahar, INSTC, Regional Air Corridors, Ashgabat Agreement always leads to economic gains and building trust. However, connectivity must respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity.

There was also a detailed discussion on the issue of Afghanistan, which is witnessing a surge in Taliban violence. It is learnt from reliable sources that NSA Doval told SCO members that there is a need to preserve gains made in the last two decades in Afghanistan and give top priority to the welfare of its people.

He also told SCO that India fully supports the SCO Contact Group on Afghanistan, which should be more active. Though India became SCO Member in 2017, it has physical, spiritual, cultural and philosophical inter-linkages for centuries with countries that now make up SCO, he added. (ANI)
 
Pushback Against “Islamophobia” Narrative: How New Law In France Prevents Islamists From Accusing State Of Racism And Claim Victimhood

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  • Despite strong criticism of the crackdown on Islamism from the left-wing as well as Muslim countries around the world, Macron seems unfazed, powered by strong public opinion at home.

For a long time now, national governments across the world have been trying to tackle the challenge of radical Islamism, and how to balance modern, secular, pluralistic values with monism promoted by extreme religious beliefs.

France, known for its model of secularism, whose political developments are looked up to by the countries since the French Revolution of 1789, seems committed to another experiment that could possibly serve as a template for others in the future.

French President Emmanuel Macron had sparked a controversy last year by his defence of freedom of expression and attack on "radical Islam" and "Islamist separatism" in the wake of the brutal beheading of school teacher Samuel Paty.

There was an outcry from the Muslim world against Macron’s statements. In India too, protests were carried out by Muslim groups against Macron and France.

Macron made it clear in no uncertain terms that France will not give in to Islamism. In an October 2020 speech, he said that “Islamic separatism” was quietly making inroads in the country and creating a “counter society.” He also called for a "rapid and coordinated" European response to the Islamist terror attacks.

Post the beheading of a French middle-school teacher, Samuel Paty in Paris, the French government temporarily shut down the grand mosque of Pantin outside the city which had circulated a video targeting Paty. The beheading is just one in a spate of terror attacks that have rocked the country — most of them low intensity, lone-wolf type.

Islamism has reportedly claimed more than 200 French lives in the past eight years. In a recent nationwide survey in the country, close to 80 per cent of respondents agreed that “Islamism is at war with France”.

Soon after Macron’s speech, France began an intense crackdown on the Islamists.

In December 2020, the government began investigating at least 76 mosques for spreading radicalism. Additionally, more than 2,600 Muslim places of worship were reportedly flagged as "possible threats to France's republican values and security".

The country also began hunting undocumented immigrants suspected to be radicalised. Reportedly, 66 of them were expelled, 46 were in administrative detention centres, 30 were placed under house arrest and five were in jail.

In December 2020, Macron unveiled a draft law, called the Law Reinforcing Respect of the Principles of the Republic, to tackle ‘radical Islamism’ (albeit the word Islamism is not used in the text), and “to reinforce Republican principles”. The law proposes around 1,700 amendments, which are wide-ranging.

While the law applies to all religions, it is the Muslim groups and countries that voiced the most vehement criticism.

While introducing the bill in the legislature, interior minister Gerald Darmanin, the bill’s sponsor, said the bill’s aim was to stop “an Islamist hostile takeover targeting Muslims", while clarifying that it was not against any religion. “Our country is suffering from a sickness of separatism, first and foremost an Islamist separatism that is like gangrene infecting our national unity,” he said.

Some important provisions of the draft law include:
  • It empowers the government to permanently close houses of worship and dissolve religious organizations, without court order, if it finds that any of their members are provoking violence or inciting hatred.
  • Oversight in the functioning of associations and mosques, including foreign financing. Foreign funding isn’t banned but they have to declare it and have their accounts certified annually.
  • The government would be able to exercise supervision over the training of imams, and have greater powers to shut down places of worship receiving public subsidies if they go against “republican principles” such as gender equality.
  • Moderate community leaders targeted by an extremist “putsch” could receive protection.
  • Protecting children from indoctrination and to do away with underground schools by mandating that all children from age three attend a regular school (around 50,000 children were home-schooled in 2020, according to French media, but the number of “clandestine schools” where children are reportedly indoctrinated in radical ideology is unknown).
  • A close watch on associations, including those that run mosques, by mandating the state-funded to sign a “contract of Republican commitment”, and ensuring that outsiders can’t take control of an association. Religious organizations would have to obtain government permits every five years to continue operating.
  • The “Charter of Principles for Islam of France" requires the signatories to reject all forms of political Islam, including Salafism, as well as ideologies linked to national and transnational organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood.
  • It rejects any use of mosques for disseminating nationalist speeches defending foreign regimes and supporting foreign policies hostile to France or its citizens and compatriots.
  • Most importantly, the Charter knocks the wind out of the ‘Islamophobia’ narrative by describing as “defamatory” any attempt by Muslims to accuse the state of racism or claim victimhood.
  • Any group that violates the charter would face ejection from all the representative bodies of Islam of France.
  • The law, keeping in mind the Paty beheading, creates a new crime for hate speech online in which someone’s personal details are posted.
  • It bans the practice of polygamy and forced marriage, discrimination based on sexual orientation, and bars doctors from giving virginity certificates.
  • France already had a ban on state employees displaying “conspicuous” religious symbols such as the crucifix or hijab. This will now be extended to any sub-contracted public service.
(Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)

In recent months, France has ousted the leadership of a mosque after temporarily closing it and investigating its finances; asked the mosque authorities to appoint women to the board of its governing association; forced another mosque to give up millions in subsidies; and closed down dozen others temporarily for safety or fire-code violations.

While the law has been strongly criticised by the left-wing ideologues for ‘stigmatising’ the Muslim community; and by the Muslims leaders around the world as ‘racist’ and ‘Islamophobic’, Macron seems unfazed, powered by strong public opinion at home.

Some sections of the Muslim community also welcomed the law, calling it “useful, necessary to fight those who want to use associations” to counter French values. Others called it “unjust but necessary”. The head of the Foundation of Islam, a secular organization representing a progressive Islam, Ghaleb Bencheikh, said:

“..It [the law] is necessary because the French society, the French nation is traumatized by attacks and the reality of radical Islam.. While radicals are a minority, it’s the minorities that make up history.”

Let me distill these laws:
Basically as Muslims you have little due process, and though we say we are secular (and treat everyone the same under law), the reality if we don't treat everyone the same and we have a set of preferred "state" religions and Islam is not one of them. Thank you and goodbye.

That is the thrust of these laws.
 
Pushback Against “Islamophobia” Narrative: How New Law In France Prevents Islamists From Accusing State Of Racism And Claim Victimhood

swarajya%2F2020-10%2Fd11acff0-36be-4a15-af27-f203306c3592%2FMacron.jpg



  • Despite strong criticism of the crackdown on Islamism from the left-wing as well as Muslim countries around the world, Macron seems unfazed, powered by strong public opinion at home.

For a long time now, national governments across the world have been trying to tackle the challenge of radical Islamism, and how to balance modern, secular, pluralistic values with monism promoted by extreme religious beliefs.

France, known for its model of secularism, whose political developments are looked up to by the countries since the French Revolution of 1789, seems committed to another experiment that could possibly serve as a template for others in the future.

French President Emmanuel Macron had sparked a controversy last year by his defence of freedom of expression and attack on "radical Islam" and "Islamist separatism" in the wake of the brutal beheading of school teacher Samuel Paty.

There was an outcry from the Muslim world against Macron’s statements. In India too, protests were carried out by Muslim groups against Macron and France.

Macron made it clear in no uncertain terms that France will not give in to Islamism. In an October 2020 speech, he said that “Islamic separatism” was quietly making inroads in the country and creating a “counter society.” He also called for a "rapid and coordinated" European response to the Islamist terror attacks.

Post the beheading of a French middle-school teacher, Samuel Paty in Paris, the French government temporarily shut down the grand mosque of Pantin outside the city which had circulated a video targeting Paty. The beheading is just one in a spate of terror attacks that have rocked the country — most of them low intensity, lone-wolf type.

Islamism has reportedly claimed more than 200 French lives in the past eight years. In a recent nationwide survey in the country, close to 80 per cent of respondents agreed that “Islamism is at war with France”.

Soon after Macron’s speech, France began an intense crackdown on the Islamists.

In December 2020, the government began investigating at least 76 mosques for spreading radicalism. Additionally, more than 2,600 Muslim places of worship were reportedly flagged as "possible threats to France's republican values and security".

The country also began hunting undocumented immigrants suspected to be radicalised. Reportedly, 66 of them were expelled, 46 were in administrative detention centres, 30 were placed under house arrest and five were in jail.

In December 2020, Macron unveiled a draft law, called the Law Reinforcing Respect of the Principles of the Republic, to tackle ‘radical Islamism’ (albeit the word Islamism is not used in the text), and “to reinforce Republican principles”. The law proposes around 1,700 amendments, which are wide-ranging.

While the law applies to all religions, it is the Muslim groups and countries that voiced the most vehement criticism.

While introducing the bill in the legislature, interior minister Gerald Darmanin, the bill’s sponsor, said the bill’s aim was to stop “an Islamist hostile takeover targeting Muslims", while clarifying that it was not against any religion. “Our country is suffering from a sickness of separatism, first and foremost an Islamist separatism that is like gangrene infecting our national unity,” he said.

Some important provisions of the draft law include:
  • It empowers the government to permanently close houses of worship and dissolve religious organizations, without court order, if it finds that any of their members are provoking violence or inciting hatred.
  • Oversight in the functioning of associations and mosques, including foreign financing. Foreign funding isn’t banned but they have to declare it and have their accounts certified annually.
  • The government would be able to exercise supervision over the training of imams, and have greater powers to shut down places of worship receiving public subsidies if they go against “republican principles” such as gender equality.
  • Moderate community leaders targeted by an extremist “putsch” could receive protection.
  • Protecting children from indoctrination and to do away with underground schools by mandating that all children from age three attend a regular school (around 50,000 children were home-schooled in 2020, according to French media, but the number of “clandestine schools” where children are reportedly indoctrinated in radical ideology is unknown).
  • A close watch on associations, including those that run mosques, by mandating the state-funded to sign a “contract of Republican commitment”, and ensuring that outsiders can’t take control of an association. Religious organizations would have to obtain government permits every five years to continue operating.
  • The “Charter of Principles for Islam of France" requires the signatories to reject all forms of political Islam, including Salafism, as well as ideologies linked to national and transnational organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood.
  • It rejects any use of mosques for disseminating nationalist speeches defending foreign regimes and supporting foreign policies hostile to France or its citizens and compatriots.
  • Most importantly, the Charter knocks the wind out of the ‘Islamophobia’ narrative by describing as “defamatory” any attempt by Muslims to accuse the state of racism or claim victimhood.
  • Any group that violates the charter would face ejection from all the representative bodies of Islam of France.
  • The law, keeping in mind the Paty beheading, creates a new crime for hate speech online in which someone’s personal details are posted.
  • It bans the practice of polygamy and forced marriage, discrimination based on sexual orientation, and bars doctors from giving virginity certificates.
  • France already had a ban on state employees displaying “conspicuous” religious symbols such as the crucifix or hijab. This will now be extended to any sub-contracted public service.
(Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)

In recent months, France has ousted the leadership of a mosque after temporarily closing it and investigating its finances; asked the mosque authorities to appoint women to the board of its governing association; forced another mosque to give up millions in subsidies; and closed down dozen others temporarily for safety or fire-code violations.

While the law has been strongly criticised by the left-wing ideologues for ‘stigmatising’ the Muslim community; and by the Muslims leaders around the world as ‘racist’ and ‘Islamophobic’, Macron seems unfazed, powered by strong public opinion at home.

Some sections of the Muslim community also welcomed the law, calling it “useful, necessary to fight those who want to use associations” to counter French values. Others called it “unjust but necessary”. The head of the Foundation of Islam, a secular organization representing a progressive Islam, Ghaleb Bencheikh, said:

“..It [the law] is necessary because the French society, the French nation is traumatized by attacks and the reality of radical Islam.. While radicals are a minority, it’s the minorities that make up history.”







The reason for the above is demographic. More and more White Western European women are converting to Islam and breeding Muslim children. The PTB fear this:


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Let me distill these laws:
Basically as Muslims you have little due process, and though we say we are secular (and treat everyone the same under law), the reality if we don't treat everyone the same and we have a set of preferred "state" religions and Islam is not one of them. Thank you and goodbye.

That is the thrust of these laws.

Even then it is way better than the laws and procedures for Uyghur's in China. :agree:

In france muslims can still name their kid muhammed, use internet and learn quran and keep fast during ramdan.
The reason for the above is demographic. More and more White Western European women are converting to Islam and breeding Muslim children. The PTB fear this:


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So you agree with France. That is good to know.

India should take notes. Its wonderful to know how flexible muslims can be once you have a strong spine.
 
Even then it is way better than the laws and procedures for Uyghur's in China. :agree:

In france muslims can still name their kid muhammed, use internet and learn quran and keep fast during ramdan.


So you agree with France. That is good to know.

India should take notes.





Not quite. I agree that more and more White Western European women are converting to Islam and having Muslim babies. The facts and evidence confirms this........ :azn::








Unlike gangus, we are not...........:azn::

 
Not quite. I agree that more and more White Western European women are converting to Islam and having Muslim babies. The facts and evidence confirms this........ :azn::

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That sounds like justifying French Law. And you are not even French.

How wonderful. From supporting China you have gone to supporting France. Soon you will support India if and when India decides to follow in these footsteps.
 
Even then it is way better than the laws and procedures for Uyghur's in China. :agree:

In france muslims can still name their kid muhammed, use internet and learn quran and keep fast during ramdan.


So you agree with France. That is good to know.

India should take notes. Its wonderful to know how flexible muslims can be once you have a strong spine.
You want to buy any bullshit self-peddling article that is spawned by Western government interests and quoted and re-quoted in this incestuous cycle - be my guest. I don'y buy anything from the the Western media, without looking at it with deep analysis and cynicism. There is no credibility in western politicians and media outlets. ZERO. Remember the yellow cake, remember the children from incubators, remember the gulf of Tolkin - I can go on and on. Sorry we are not going to buy the crap that is peddled anymore. Also China is Pakistan's strongest ally, and yes that means a lot to us.
 
That sounds like justifying French Law. And you are not even French.

How wonderful. From supporting China you have gone to supporting France. Soon you will support India if and when India decides to follow in these footsteps.





I'm not French, but I know for a fact that that White French women like Muslim men, are converting to Islam and having Muslim babies. The evidence proves this......... :azn::






However, a far as indian sare concerned, you gangus are...........:azn::

 
You want to buy any bullshit self-peddling article that is spawned by Western government interests and quoted and re-quoted in this incestuous cycle - be my guest. I don'y buy anything from the the Western media, without looking at it with deep analysis and cynicism. There is no credibility in western politicians and media outlets. ZERO. Remember the yellow cake, remember the children from incubators, remember the gulf of Tolkin - I can go on and on. Sorry we are not going to buy the crap that is peddled anymore. Also China is Pakistan's strongest ally, and yes that means a lot to us.

Me ? Its your fellow pakistani patriots who is providing justifications for french laws.

Which of course is just an extension of justifying Chinese law and actions.

Its refreshing to know what really mattes to you. I thank China for making this very apparent to us and the whole world. And Thank you France and Thank you Jinnah.
I'm not French, but I know for a fact that that White French women like Muslim men, are converting to Islam and having Muslim babies. The evidence proves this......... :azn::


You sound positively excited and delighted.

I am really jealous. If only I could get so happy with so little. Damn.
 
If the multicultural societies have to survive, such laws are important. I mean it if Hindus cause trouble in that society then they should sanction such laws against them as well. Otherwise the overall character of that society will be at stake. If any religion is so great, they should stick to living with their co-religionists in their own country.
 
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