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Zimbabwe adopts Chinese yuan as legal currency

In the future the yuan will replace the dollar unless the american people demand that their policy makers stop devaluing it.


WOW !! A 'real' Zimbabwean ? What's up, bro ? Are you kidding ? China manipulates it's currency like a puppet. If they let it go and float on the open market, NO ONE would want it to replace the dollar and their exports wouldn't be as nearly as 'attractive'.
 
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WOW !! A 'real' Zimbabwean ? What's up, bro ? Are you kidding ? China manipulates it's currency like a puppet. If they let it go and float on the open market, NO ONE would want it to replace the dollar and their exports wouldn't be as nearly as 'attractive'.
The point of my previous post was that the Federal Reserve has interest rates at or near 0 whereas the Peoples bank of china has it at about 6%. A dollar collapse will only occur when its holders lose their faith in its worth and the u.s dollar has lost 90% of its value in the past century due to devaluation. Hopefully this trend will be reversed in the future.

Yes I do live in Zimbabwe.;)
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WOW !! A 'real' Zimbabwean ? What's up, bro ? Are you kidding ? China manipulates it's currency like a puppet. If they let it go and float on the open market, NO ONE would want it to replace the dollar and their exports wouldn't be as nearly as 'attractive'.

Really? That's the American perspective, at least to the none informed.

Before we even get to currency, let's talk exports.

-If you ever worked at all, you would know any job needs training, even at KFC. A good employee and a bad one makes a ton of difference, even at KFC. I worked there briefly during college, so I know my chicken.

China has a good work force currently unmatched and won't be matched for at least another decade if not two, it takes time for less developing nations, which is everyone else, to have a high enough education level for the common man and many other non tangible factors, like culture, society pressure. (Chinese work hard because we have huge social pressure from peers, family, etc)

-Then there is transportation, Chinese roads, rails are unmatched, HRS frees up massive resources for freight transport, while our roads are good, and plenty. None in the developing world comes close.

-China has massive orders, which makes our manufacturing extremely cheap, no one else can come close, it would take decades to be able to take that advantage away. Why is Chinese goods still cheap in price? Because even at that price we are paying employees, we are still overall cheaper. Even when our per capita reaches 10 times our competitor's we will still be more attractive.

Now this will change as time goes on, but until we are close to developed, no country can take manufacturing away from us in huge numbers.


There's tons of other reasons, but I think that's good enough for a forum.


@Kaan
To tell you the truth, I'm not sure being the reserve currency is that good, there's obvious benefits, but also down sides, I'm sure there will be a lot of discussions on the direction our currency will take.

At the moment, it's up in the air.
 
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In the future the yuan will replace the dollar unless the american people demand that their policy makers stop devaluing it.
even if they wont devalue it, them having all these shale oil revolution now and being energy independent will replace the dollar since russia and the middle east will ship all their oil to china that will one day demand that oil has to be traded in yuan and not in dollars.
 
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even if they wont devalue it, them having all these shale oil revolution now and being energy independent will replace the dollar since russia and the middle east will ship all their oil to china who will one day demand that oil has to be traded in yuan and not in dollars.
The day when the dollar is at risk of losing its reserve status is the day ww3 starts. Thats guaranteed.
 
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even if they wont devalue it, them having all these shale oil revolution now and being energy independent will replace the dollar since russia and the middle east will ship all their oil to china who will one day demand that oil has to be traded in yuan and not in dollars.

LOL the supplier makes demands in the currency that must be paid not the buyer. :lol:
 
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Chinese like to talk about how their standard of living is rising, and it is. But as it does, so do wages, making Chinese exports less attractive because of the rising price of labor, transportation and the quality as compared to products make in other countries. Also, China has 300,000,000 people who are 'moving on up', but they have ONE BILLION who don't have a pot to piss in. There is no way in hell China can create enough jobs to drag those billion people out of poverty. Especially when they start losing manufacturing because of the rise in wages ...

Manufacturers Are Leaving China, But Where Are They Headed?
Tue, 01/28/2014 - 10:59am
Tia Nowack, Associate Editor, Industrial Maintenance & Plant Operation

Seeing China’s manufacturing sector shrink is a trend that excites Americans, although it may not actually alleviate much of the pressure around a U.S. unemployment rate of 7.3 percent. The reality, according to many experts, is that the phenomenon is more one of nearshoring than reshoring, as many of these businesses — along with their jobs — head to Mexico.

The competitiveness of offshoring has been declining for years, as China has faced increasing wages and currency costs, as well as higher fuel and transportation costs. There are also many hidden costs and risks that are difficult to anticipate. According to Jason King, Vice President of global business firm AlixPartners, “companies are waking up to the harsh reality that manufacturing offshore in places like China and other low-cost countries is costlier than it initially looked.”

In fact, by some estimates, manufacturing in China will cost as much as manufacturing in the U.S. as soon as 2015.

Why Mexico?

Unlike China, Mexico continues to boast low labor costs and has a huge advantage in terms of proximity to the American market. That said, finding out how many American companies are manufacturing in Mexico is surprisingly difficult. According to Mario Vidana, Senior Trade Specialist with the U.S. Department of Commerce, there are no public directories for Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) companies established in Mexico. In order to obtain this information, you would need to contact the chamber of commerce or industry chamber in each state. Vidana also warned that they are often reluctant to share this information.

So while the exact number of U.S. companies that are relocating their factories to Mexico is unknown, it does appear that the trend is especially apparent in the automotive, aerospace, and textile industries. In an interview with Entrada Group, King points to several key benefits of producing in Mexico compared to China. These benefits include lower transportation and warehousing costs, an improved ability to respond to customer demands, a better control of intellectual property, the ease of proximate time zones between management and production, and the cultural similarities between the U.S. and Mexican markets.

Paula Ramos, Marketing Director at MFI International, echoes many of these advantages, the greatest being the proximity to American markets. MFI International provides manufacturing services in the Juarez, Mexico region that ease collaboration between U.S. companies and Mexican manufacturers. She specifically cites the benefits of working in the border region of Mexico, where there are concentrations of skilled workers and industry.

“You get the benefits from the lower labor rates in Mexico, and you can have your products within the same day. We have cases where we can place an order in the morning and the product comes back to an El Paso facility that afternoon,” Ramos says. “It’s almost like being in the U.S.”

To Ramos, this quick turnaround is what defines nearshoring. “I talk to companies that say ‘nearshoring’ and then mention factories in Columbia and Central America — that’s still far.”

According to Ramos, manufacturing in Mexico is being developed in “clusters” which are often incentivized by the Mexican government. The skilled workforce is available throughout Mexico, and different cities are working to attract different types of investments. Nissan, for example, recently opened a plant in Aguascalientes, which will attract suppliers and OEMs to that region. There are a large number of automotive and aerospace companies moving south, which is building up new clusters, she says.

Smart Investments and Contentious Plans

The Mexican government is incentivizing manufacturing on Mexican soil by making wise investments, according to Ramos. The government is primarily financing improvements to national infrastructure and roads to ease the flow of trade. They have also worked for years on building trade agreements globally, and now hold agreements with 44 countries that allow duty-free trade, she says.

The government has also invested in the education of its people, turning out a prepared, bilingual workforce. According to the United States Embassy in Mexico, more Mexicans — almost 100,000 more — earn engineering degrees annually than Canadians and Germans. These skills are attractive to U.S. companies, especially for a lower price tag than at home.

While the Mexican government has made some smart investments, not all of their recent decisions are going over well with manufacturers. On November 1, Mexico’s congress passed a tax reform measure that will make changes to customs practices and raise the value-added tax (VAT) on export assembly plants in the border regions.

Ramos says that MFI is waiting until the end of the year to see what the final resolution is before making a formal statement, but compares the contentious proposal to health care reform in America.

Currently, a major benefit of producing in Mexico versus in China is avoiding a high VAT. As the system stands now, companies import materials duty free, transform those materials into a product in Mexico, and export the finished product back to the U.S. with zero, or very few, duties. The new VAT would change the way taxes are calculated, and the manufacturing (Maquiladora) industry is lobbying very hard against it.

Another concern that has deterred some companies from manufacturing in Mexico is the ongoing, publicized, drug related violence. Ramos said that this fear is not particularly relevant to manufacturers because of the nature and location of the violence. In Mexico, most manufacturing is done in industrial parks that are gated and secured. “Most manufacturers, like MFI, will arrange transportation for workers from their living areas to and from their workplace,” she says.

What Does This Mean For American Manufacturing?

Ramos says the decision to manufacture in the U.S. or Mexico should be based on the type of product a company manufactures. To Ramos, “reshore products” have lower labor requirements and involve a more automated type of manufacturing. On the other hand, “nearshore products” have higher labor requirements, involve more manual operations, and allow a company to compare labor costs between China and Mexico.

“I strongly believe North American companies should take advantage of nearshoring labor-intensive operations by establishing production sharing between the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, and boosting economic activity within the region,” she says.

As Ramos explains, forty percent of Mexico’s exports to the United States consist of components made in the United States, primarily for the automotive industry. In China, that number drops to less than eight percent. By that logic, increasing Mexico’s manufacturing industry directly stimulates manufacturing jobs in the U.S. In turn, creating jobs in Mexico stimulates the Mexican economy, which increases Mexican imports from the United States.

And for Ramos, this is the best part of her job.

“It feels very good, when you start talking to a company and explaining all of the benefits [of producing in Mexico], and then you walk out on the production floor and you see us hiring more and more workers,” she says proudly.

“It’s really about keeping the workers happy, and if you’re doing that by helping companies save some money and become more competitive, that’s a great match.”
 
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Yuan will never be reserve currency even if dollar is gone. Check out Trifin Dilemma
 
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If I have U.S dollars, I know that I can buy Boeing aircrafts with that green bag. If I have Chinese Yuan, what can I buy?????????
 
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If I have U.S dollars, I know that I can buy Boeing aircrafts with that green bag. If I have Chinese Yuan, what can I buy?????????

You can buy space craft, satelite or Yutu moon rover.
 
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Is something wrong with Kunming chicken ? It's good. My wife gets that all the time when we go out to Hong Luck.
As long as chinas military is not as strong as americas the yuan will not be the world reserve currency because the U.S dollars status as the world reserve currency depends on oil rich countries to use it in oil trade. These oil rich countries depend on the u.s navy for securing their trade roots and if the chinese can provide the same service then the yuan will become the world currecy. As of now they cant do that but in 50-60 years it could happen.
 
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As long as chinas military is not as strong as americas the yuan will not be the world reserve currency because the U.S dollars status as the world reserve currency depends on oil rich countries to use it in oil trade. These oil rich countries depend on the u.s navy for securing their trade roots and if the chinese can provide the same service then the yuan will become the world currecy. As of now they cant do that but in 50-60 years it could happen.


The U.S. will soon be the largest exporter of energy. Then what ?:usflag:
 
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