What's new

Zia Ul Haq: The "Mard e Narcotics" of Pakistan

. .
since i have lived through 2 martial laws and lived through two democracies in Pakistan..There is hardly any comparison..
No matter what the media says...the only people who suffer during the Martial law are the politicians..For the people it all peace and harmony and low prices...
During demcracy the people suffer while the politicians can do all they want..
I rather have the politicians suffer....

Plus you resident Pakistanis are too quick to blame us the Expats..while you spectacularly fail to do anything right for the country.....
You even fail to even think right...
Just living there doesn’t help at all...

i have seen two democracies and one dictatorship- and i also feel democracy sux-
The Pakistani awam needs a danda- and i prefer a military danda-
Which as a Muslim i can easily relate to Khilafat- Muslims are hard bunch to unite and rule- unless a strict Khalifa with a danda start to implement the Shariah- and by shariah i mean strict punishments to the bad people no matter to Bhutto or Ganja Shareef-
 
.
since i have lived through 2 martial laws and lived through two democracies in Pakistan..There is hardly any comparison..
No matter what the media says...the only people who suffer during the Martial law are the politicians..For the people it all peace and harmony and low prices...
During demcracy the people suffer while the politicians can do all they want..
I rather have the politicians suffer....

Plus you resident Pakistanis are too quick to blame us the Expats..while you spectacularly fail to do anything right for the country.....
You even fail to even think right...
Just living there doesn’t help at all...

Why would we "residents" blame you for anything happening in our country? Just like you do not blame us for anything happening in yours. When the going gets tough, the tough gets permanent residency elsewhere. and then they want all sorts of good stuff for us, especially shariah law and martial law. Its just funny, don't take offense to it, since obviously there is a reason why we don't take hypocrisy seriously.
 
.
its strange how karachiites forget naseer ulla babur of PPP / ANP
and blame it all on zia

Zia was the one who created MQM against PPP in Karachi....
No wonder why the violence between the two still continues....
 
.
ever heard of an idiot jisne 100 jute bhi khaye aur 100 pyaz bhi. Pakistani by jugglng b/w demo and dictator are doing exactly sane.
 
.
Zia was the one who created MQM against PPP in Karachi....
No wonder why the violence between the two still continues....

So PPP wasnt before zia's time?
Proof please or another brainfart.....
 
.
Why would we "residents" blame you for anything happening in our country? Just like you do not blame us for anything happening in yours. When the going gets tough, the tough gets permanent residency elsewhere. and then they want all sorts of good stuff for us, especially shariah law and martial law. Its just funny, don't take offense to it, since obviously there is a reason why we don't take hypocrisy seriously.

So you are saying economy and law n order situation was better during democracy?
If you can read. And have a conscience..you wont say that.
And no expats dont expect anything from the resident pakistanis..because they cant do anything right...
Good luck with loadshedding

and dont forget to elect same robbers next time....
 
.
So PPP wasnt before zia's time?
Proof please or another brainfart.....

I thought you were old enough to know a lot about Pakistan: :lol:

Zia Ul Haq in Office:
16 September 1978 – 17 August 1988

MQM creation:
March 18, 1984.

Zia had founded MQM, says Beg

Former Pakistani army chief General (retd) Mirza Aslam Beg has said that late dictator Zia-ul-Haq was responsible for the formation of the Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM).

In an interview to the Voice of America, General Beg, who was the vice-chief of the army staff in General Zia’s military administration, said, “It was Zia who had founded the Muttahida Quami Movement.”

General Beg, who was the Chief of Army Staff from 1988

to 1991, said President Pervez Musharraf should be asked

why he relied on the MQM so much.

MQM broadly represents the Urdu speaking migrants from India who were settled in Pakistan’s business hub Karachi after the bitter Partition of the subcontinent in 1947.

General Beg said it was under the present government that the offices of MQMs rival, MQM (Haqeeqi), were shut down and its people sent to jail.

The MQM had now come to the aid of the regime in a show of loyalty, he was quoted as saying by The Daily Times which reported the interview.

In an earlier VOA interview, former prime minister Benazir Bhutto had said that General Zia founded both the MQM and the Afghanistan Mujahideen.

Imran Farooq of the MQM has denied the claim made by Beg. He told the VOA that the army simply does not have the capability of setting up a popular political party.

Farooq pointed out that General Begs party had been formed with the armys blessings and had failed to make its mark. General Beg had founded a non-political Awami Qaiyadat Party (National Leadership Party). After his retirement, Beg has remained a controversial figure, both for his alleged role in a bank scandal and the nuclear proliferation issue

Zia had founded MQM, says Beg - Indian Express

Naseerulah Babar in Office:
21 October 1993 – 5 November 1996
 
.
So you are saying economy and law n order situation was better during democracy?
If you can read. And have a conscience..you wont say that.
And no expats dont expect anything from the resident pakistanis..because they cant do anything right...
Good luck with loadshedding

and dont forget to elect same robbers next time....

Thank you for your concern. Some of us are working towards bringing about change not demanding change to happen overnight. If you have been here for 2 democracies and 2 dictatorships and then ran away wouldn't you say you were directly involved in what happened to this country rather than me who move to this country 4 years ago? Talk is cheap and being condescending helps noone but yourself and the gossip massis who should only worry about their own cookings instead of others. Plus I came back thinking Musharaff would survive, I could also have run away to my cushy job and wine tastings but for how long will I keep running like my other coward citizens? I am from here and I belong in my country. There are some of us who are literally dying to be here and our citizens cant wait to kick us out.. Good thing is ignorance can not survive within my ever expanding radius and one day with no help from you we will raise our kids to protect our birthright.
 
.
I normally dont ask these questions..But which Part of Bangladesh you are from?
If you are old enough or had conversation with the older generation..They will tell you how prosper Both Bangladesh and Pakistan were during Ayub Khan's era....
and he was another so called dictator...


1.The question is not who was/is a dictator or a king or a sheikh or a so called "democrat"? The question is who is/was able to deliver? Who is/was a true leader who led the people successfully through bad times? Under whom have the common man felt more comfortable?

2. Call them by whatever designation you like but it was Ayub pre-71. Post-71 we had our Zia and Ershad with faults. You had Zia, a Mard e Mujahid, the like of whom a nation waits centuries to get. That is why the Americans eliminated him.
 
.

Latest posts

Military Forum Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom