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Zelenskyy calls nato a weak organization

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hes not even in NATO

he's trying to bait NATO into fighting Russia, NATO has no obligation.
Many eastern Europeans view NATO and EU membership as a path to getting first world living standards with little costs to themselves. Unfortunately for Ukraine it has led to their ruin.
 
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Who told this idiot USA and Nato will protect his country. They wanted to use his country to hurt Russia economically militarily and Diplomaticalty. They have got what they wanted. This idiot let his country used by American. He does not know his country was just a pawn. I feel sorry for Ukrainian. They were used against their on cousins just because of this idiot. USA is fighting for its world order. If Ukrainian fall then USA will be history. For that china has to act if they really wana be king of this world. Otherwise their dream to rule this world may be late for next 40 years
this bastard has plunged the region in war. he is either a puppet of west or an a self made opportunist of a racist Nazi party or both.
now he is criticizing his backers when the media claims that Russians are badly failing? All the bullshit stories about Russians crying and being beaten as claimed.
 
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But nato n usa were taping him to fight with Russia right?
While he actually knows that NATO used him as a bait. They got what they wanted, Russia drawn into Ukraine and under sanction. Now their next plan would be to bleed Russia using Ukrainian lives in a protracted war.
 
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supplying Ukraine with expensive weapon like ATGM and others should be enough.
I'm sorry but that is an extremely stupid thing to say.

getting ATGMs and manpads is definitely not worth antagonizing Russia to the point were they would wage full scale war on you.

any country can get ATGMs and manpads just fine without having to put themselves in such a dangerous situation.

so no, when Ukraine went full pro NATO knowing this would provoke Russia they didn't do it for the sake of some ATGMs (which they could buy anyway without being the enemy of any one), they did it for the sake of NATO membership and that is what NATO promised them.

NATO didn't tell it's puppets in Ukraine "provoke Russia for 8 years and then we promise to give you ATGMs", they promised them FULL NATO membership yet for eight years, EIGHT YEARS, they didn't make Ukraine a member.

NATO promised Ukraine full protection (ie: NATO membership so a war on Ukraine would be like a war on the US) but all the US did was throw Zelensky to the bear.
 
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While he actually knows that NATO used him as a bait. They got what they wanted, Russia drawn into Ukraine and under sanction. Now their next plan would be to bleed Russia using Ukrainian lives in a protracted war.
No he miscalculated. He wanted to use Russia as a boogieman to get Ukraine into EU and NATO......with its economic benefits like most eastern Europeans want. No one expected Putin to call his bluff.
 
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While he actually knows that NATO used him as a bait. They got what they wanted, Russia drawn into Ukraine and under sanction. Now their next plan would be to bleed Russia using Ukrainian lives in a protracted war.
For Russian it is batter to finish the job as soon a possible. Their aim was to finish Ukrainen army. They have to use the drones to finish this job quickly. If they go late it will difficult for their image. This is what usa is wanted. I am against war but as analyst n student of history. Faster and quicker the attack is. Results will be more favorable. Their image is already damaged. Now they have to show their real power if they wana sustain the power.
 
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yep, Zelensky and the whole Ukrainian government, that was established after the NeoCon Euromaiden, got played like fools. Did they really think that the USA/NATO were willing to risk WWIII and nuclear annihilation just to protect poor Ukraine? After the war, whether Ukraine exists or not, no matter how many civilian deaths, is not a matter or concern for US/NATO, they got what they wanted with this fiasco, Russia is demonized heavily in the eyes of the Western public. The US/NATO can now do what they want with the backing of their public, because they can just bring up the fear of those "Evil Russkies". Their next target is obviously China.
 
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He is right. NATO- No Action Talk Only.
He should have concluded that before he sold his country out to the west knowing well the consequences. NATO was not made for his convenience. He is the biggest idiot in the current situation and the west is making him sort of a hero.
 
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Yeha. If you have watched very recent interview of Henry Clinton. She said we must use Ukrainen way we used Afghans n pakistanis against soviet. She did not realized what cost pakistanis n Afghans had paid. Social n economic system were destroyed. Whole generation got Radicalized. If this war goes on whole Ukrainen new generation will be Radicalized. Only because of this idiot
I have met her face to face, talked to her, and I can tell you she is a politician through and through. She seemed like she didn’t care about people, in general, and probably less about foreigners.

She is a nerd, she absorbs data and doesn’t consider the human cost, just thinks of outcomes.
 
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No he miscalculated. He wanted to use Russia as a boogieman to get Ukraine into EU and NATO......with its economic benefits like most eastern Europeans want. No one expected Putin to call his bluff.
For Russian it is batter to finish the job as soon a possible. Their aim was to finish Ukrainen army. They have to use the drones to finish this job quickly. If they go late it will difficult for their image. This is what usa is wanted. I am against war but as analyst n student of history. Faster and quicker the attack is. Results will be more favorable. Their image is already damaged. Now they have to show their real power if they wana sustain the power.
Russia had been clear that they will not allow Ukraine to join NATO. For NATO it was a win-win proposition. If they had succeeded in having Ukraine join they would be sitting next to Russia, if not they would fight the Russians using Ukrainian lives.
 
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Russia had been clear that they will not allow Ukraine to join NATO. For NATO it was a win-win proposition. If they had succeeded in having Ukraine join they would be sitting next to Russia, if not they would fight the Russians using Ukrainian lives.
But who will look after 5 millions refuses and energy. They did not thought about that right? I believe they were used by usa as Ukrainen. Both acted as pawn in chess for usa.
 
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Russia had been clear that they will not allow Ukraine to join NATO. For NATO it was a win-win proposition. If they had succeeded in having Ukraine join they would be sitting next to Russia, if not they would fight the Russians using Ukrainian lives.
For USA this was a win-win preposition but not for the EU. EU now has to give up cheap Russian energy and has start ramping spending on defense. They can no longer free load of the USA in this area. EU has to increase this defense spending at the same time it is dealing with ongoing sovereign debt problems and demographic decline.
 
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If he was a good leader he would realized this before the war and surrendered to save his peoples lives. He might as well be Gadaffi and Russia are the liberators.
 
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