Zakir Naik slaps Rs 500-cr defamation case against Arnab Goswami

[arp2041]

not a fan of this snake oil seller fakir naik but arnab got what he deserves...

Those who don't stand by arnab should shift to our western neighbor............or eastern if you may like!!

 

[Dash]

not a fan of this snake oil seller fakir naik but arnab got what he deserves...

Everybody does business but let's not be unfair?

 

[PAKIFALCON]

A preacher of the Holy Quran cannot be a millionaire ... (IF he practices what he preaches)


".. They ask thee how much they are to spend; say: "What is beyond your needs..." [Quran 2:219]


"And let not those who hoard up that which Allah hath bestowed upon them of His bounty think that it is better for them. Nay, it is worse for them. That which they hoard will be their collar on the Day of Resurrection... " [3:180]

Below is the Tafseer of this particular verse :

(And they ask you what they ought to spend. Say: "That which is beyond your needs.'')

Al-Hakam said that Miqsam said that Ibn `Abbas said that this Ayah means, whatever you can spare above the needs of your family. This is also the opinion of Ibn `Umar, Mujahid, `Ata', `Ikrimah, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Muhammad bin Ka`b, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Al-Qasim, Salim, `Ata' Al-Khurasani and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas.

Ibn Jarir related that Abu Hurayrah said that a man said, "O Messenger of Allah! I have a Dinar (a currency).'' The Prophet said: (Spend it you on yourself.) He said, "I have another Dinar.'' He said: (Spend it on your wife.) He said, "I have another Dinar.'' He said: (Spend it on your offspring.) He said, "I have another Dinar.'' He said: (You have better knowledge (meaning how and where to spend it in charity).)

Muslim also recorded this Hadith in his Sahih.

Muslim recorded that Jabir said that Allah's Messenger said to a man: (Start with yourself and grant it some charity. If anything remains, then spend it on your family. If anything remains, then spend it on your relatives. If anything remains, then spend it like this and like that (i.e., on various charitable purposes).)

A Hadith states: (O son of Adam! If you spend whatever you can spare, it would be better for you; but if you keep it, it would be worse for you. You shall not be blamed for whatever is barely sufficient.)

Below is the Tafseer of this particular verse :

(And let not those who are stingy with that which Allah has bestowed on them of His bounty (wealth) think that it is good for them. Nay, it will be worse for them.)

The Ayah says that the miser should not think that collecting money will benefit him. Rather, it will harm him in his religion and worldly affairs. Allah mentions the money that the miser collected on the Day of Resurrection, (the things that they stingy with shall be tied to their necks like a collar on the Day of Resurrection.)

Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Hurairah said that the Messenger of Allah said: (Whoever Allah makes wealthy and he does not pay the Zakah due on his wealth, then (on the Day of Resurrection) his wealth will be made in the likeness of a bald-headed poisonous male snake with two black spots over the eyes. The snake will encircle his neck and bite his cheeks and proclaim, `I am your wealth, I am your treasure.')

The Prophet then recited the Ayah: (And let not those who are stingy with that which Allah has bestowed on them of His bounty think that it is good for them. Nay, it will be worse for them), until the end. Al-Bukhari, but not Muslim, collected this Hadith using this chain of narration, Ibn Hibban also collected it in his Sahih.

Imam Ahmad recorded that `Abdullah said that the Prophet said: (Every person who does not pay the Zakah due on his wealth, will have his money made into the shape of a bald-headed, poisonous male snake who will follow him. The person will run away from the snake, who will follow him and proclaim, `I am your treasure.')

Abdullah then recited the Ayah in Allah's Book that testifies to this fact (the things that they were stingy with shall be tied to their necks like a collar on the Day of Resurrection.)

 

[PAKIFALCON]

Dr. Zakir Naik has the constitutional right given by the Government of India to sue whomever he wills :

Section 499 in The Indian Penal Code :

499. Defamation.—Whoever, by words either spoken or intended to be read, or by signs or by visible representations, makes or publishes any imputation concerning any person intending to harm, or knowing or having reason to believe that such imputation will harm, the reputation of such person, is said, except in the cases hereinafter expected, to defame that person. Explanation 1.—It may amount to defamation to impute anything to a deceased person, if the imputation would harm the reputation of that person if living, and is intended to be hurtful to the feelings of his family or other near relatives. Explanation 2.—It may amount to defamation to make an imputation concerning a company or an association or collection of persons as such. Explanation 3.—An imputation in the form of an alternative or expressed ironically, may amount to defamation. Explanation 4.—No imputation is said to harm a person’s reputation, unless that imputation directly or indirectly, in the estimation of others, lowers the moral or intellectual character of that person, or lowers the character of that person in respect of his caste or of his calling, or lowers the credit of that person, or causes it to be believed that the body of that person is in a loathsome state, or in a state generally considered as disgraceful.

Having proven above that he holds the right to sue Arnab Goswami for whatever the sum he likes ( in the end the court will decide how much amount has to be given to Dr. Zakir Naik in the defamation case if Arnab Goswami is found to be guilty ). Now it is up to the courts of India whether to accept Naik case or not. If the court does accepts the case all Arnab has to do is to backup his statements with proof which should clearly show whatever he said about Dr. Zakir Naik was factually correct.

Dr. Zakir Naik has said in many interviews that he was available for any probe but no government agency has approached him. He said he will welcome any probe against him. So the question arises here if the GOI hasn't officially approached him for questioning why is the media so hyped about it. The media wants to portray him as a terrorist sympathizer or a terrorist himself just to make their news sensational for the gullible people.

And last but not the least the people here on this forum who are passing their personal judgements on him whether he is a terrorist or whether his speeches spew hate or not. Kindly bring you proof & then we will talk. Sweeping statements can be made by any one but in the court of law they need factual evidence to punish the guilty.

PEACE.

 

[M. Sarmad]

My friend, these verses are to console poor.
The background behind them is to console them.So the meaning of this verse is that poor people won't held much accountable for wealth they spend as they don't have any, they have easy "hisab" and eventhough 70,000+ could enter without it. If no one has to be rich in ummah then all heavy investment related work has to be stopped at once.Let is not do anything and let word tear us apart and shear our bones.
If Allah(SWT) has specific hate for the rich then "He" wouldn't have granted prophet Solomon with wealth, riches and power.He granted him kingdom and he has also granted riches to his father David(A.S).

Well, Allah himself has (repeatedly) stated in the Holy Qur'an that:

"And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand (and remember): then is there any that will receive admonition?" [54:17, 54:22, 54:32 and 54:40]

Let's not try to make it complicated, or twist the meaning/interpretation of Quranic verses to impose our own interpretation. That's the Mullahs' forte.

(@PAKIFALCON , Who wrote those Tafaseer and what is the authenticity of Such Tafaseer ? We don't need secondary or supplementary sources to understand Qur'an)

And as mentioned already, It is amply clear from the Quranic verses that accumulation of wealth (by an individual) is prohibited in the Holy Qur'an. I am not talking about secondary sources (such as history and hadith) though. History and Hadith were written centuries after the demise of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) on the orders of Umayyad (and later Abbasid) Kings, for political reasons. After all,, they had to justify their unIslamic actions (including their unIslamic lavish lifestyles and huge wealth that they had accumulated for themselves in violation of clear Quranic injunctions).

Have you ever wondered why was 'Bait ul Maal' (the Central Treasury at Madinah) established in the first place ? According to Yaqubi the salaries and stipends charged to the central treasury amounted to over 30 million dirhams but even the Caliph Omar Ibn Khattab was held accountable for taking an extra piece of cloth from the public treasury (which he clarified he didn't). They followed the Holy Quran and they knew that personal accumulation of wealth was prohibited, and that the Kingdom and the wealth belonged to Allah alone.

“To Him belongs what is in the heavens and what is on the earth and what is between them and what is under the soil” [20:6]

Islam does not allow ownership, as in exclusive use by a few, but gives trusteeship under defined terms. Those
(including Solomon & David A.S) who have been given this trust have huge responsibilities to others in terms of their well-being.

Let us realize first that the profession on which zakir naik is up to requires a lot of investment and money.Preach, warfare and research are those prominent fields and phases in which more investment is required.

The Qur'an says:

".... Certainly, right has become clearly distinct from wrong... " [2:256]

How much investment did Muhammad (PBUH) have ? How much money did he have ? If you are spreading truth, You don't need money and investment.


“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?”


― Alphonse de Lamartine,



You need money and investment for Propaganda purposes only, and that's exactly what Mr. Naik does. He doesn't preach Islam, he preaches a very literal and extremely narrow interpretation of Islam that has been around for two hundred years only. (i.e Wahhabism)

This, however, is not something unique to the Saudi Royal Family. Almost Every ruler/dynasty in the Islamic history has done the same. Hanafi madhab was the state sponsored religion during most of the Abbasid rule. Haroon Rashid patronized Mutazillahs. His successors supported Traditionalists. Saladin replaced the Hanafi courts with Shafi'i administration. The Safavids promoted Shiaism in (present day) Iran and Iraq. And so on

The Founders of the Saud Dynasty made an agreement with Abdul Wahhab al-Najdi. Abdul Wahhab issued 'Fatwas' (religious decrees) declaring that it was permissible to kill those who refused to accept the political authority of Ale Saud. And in turn Wahhabism was made the state religion and Abdul Wahhab was given religious authority. This 'Marriage' has continued to this day. the Descendants of the founders of Saud Dynasty enjoy Political Authority, and the descendants of Abdul Wahhab enjoy Religious authority in KSA. It was never about religion. It was about Politics, like it always had been in the 1400 years history of Islam. The billions of Petro-Dollars spent by Ale Saud worldwide, that has created unrest from Philippines to Nigeria, are meant for consolidating and strengthening their own rule and obtain (global) legitimacy. But what they fail to realize is that times have changed. And that their actions have only resulted in global opinion turning against them (and Islam). They are doing no service to humanity, they have done more harm than good to Islam and Muslims worldwide.

 

[Zarvan]

Well, Allah himself has (repeatedly) stated in the Holy Qur'an that:

"And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand (and remember): then is there any that will receive admonition?" [54:17, 54:22, 54:32 and 54:40]

Let's not try to make it complicated, or twist the meaning/interpretation of Quranic verses to impose our own interpretation. That's the Mullahs' forte.

(@PAKIFALCON , Who wrote those Tafaseer and what is the authenticity of Such Tafaseer ? We don't need secondary or supplementary sources to understand Qur'an)

And as mentioned already, It is amply clear from the Quranic verses that accumulation of wealth (by an individual) is prohibited in the Holy Qur'an. I am not talking about secondary sources (such as history and hadith) though. History and Hadith were written centuries after the demise of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) on the orders of Umayyad (and later Abbasid) Kings, for political reasons. After all,, they had to justify their unIslamic actions (including their unIslamic lavish lifestyles and huge wealth that they had accumulated for themselves in violation of clear Quranic injunctions).

Have you ever wondered why was 'Bait ul Maal' (the Central Treasury at Madinah) established in the first place ? According to Yaqubi the salaries and stipends charged to the central treasury amounted to over 30 million dirhams but even the Caliph Omar Ibn Khattab was held accountable for taking an extra piece of cloth from the public treasury (which he clarified he didn't). They followed the Holy Quran and they knew that personal accumulation of wealth was prohibited, and that the Kingdom and the wealth belonged to Allah alone.

“To Him belongs what is in the heavens and what is on the earth and what is between them and what is under the soil” [20:6]

Islam does not allow ownership, as in exclusive use by a few, but gives trusteeship under defined terms. Those
(including Solomon & David A.S) who have been given this trust have huge responsibilities to others in terms of their well-being.






The Qur'an says:

".... Certainly, right has become clearly distinct from wrong... " [2:256]

How much investment did Muhammad (PBUH) have ? How much money did he have ? If you are spreading truth, You don't need money and investment.


“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?”


― Alphonse de Lamartine,



You need money and investment for Propaganda purposes only, and that's exactly what Mr. Naik does. He doesn't preach Islam, he preaches a very literal and extremely narrow interpretation of Islam that has been around for two hundred years only. (i.e Wahhabism)

This, however, is not something unique to the Saudi Royal Family. Almost Every ruler/dynasty in the Islamic history has done the same. Hanafi madhab was the state sponsored religion during most of the Abbasid rule. Haroon Rashid patronized Mutazillahs. His successors supported Traditionalists. Saladin replaced the Hanafi courts with Shafi'i administration. The Safavids promoted Shiaism in (present day) Iran and Iraq. And so on

The Founders of the Saud Dynasty made an agreement with Abdul Wahhab al-Najdi. Abdul Wahhab issued 'Fatwas' (religious decrees) declaring that it was permissible to kill those who refused to accept the political authority of Ale Saud. And in turn Wahhabism was made the state religion and Abdul Wahhab was given religious authority. This 'Marriage' has continued to this day. the Descendants of the founders of Saud Dynasty enjoy Political Authority, and the descendants of Abdul Wahhab enjoy Religious authority in KSA. It was never about religion. It was about Politics, like it always had been in the 1400 years history of Islam. The billions of Petro-Dollars spent by Ale Saud worldwide, that has created unrest from Philippines to Nigeria, are meant for consolidating and strengthening their own rule and obtain (global) legitimacy. But what they fail to realize is that times have changed. And that their actions have only resulted in global opinion turning against them (and Islam). They are doing no service to humanity, they have done more harm than good to Islam and Muslims worldwide.

Wahabism is no religion. Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab only invited people back to Quran and Sunnah and stopped the biddats all other stories are nothing but blatant lies.

Well, Allah himself has (repeatedly) stated in the Holy Qur'an that:

"And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand (and remember): then is there any that will receive admonition?" [54:17, 54:22, 54:32 and 54:40]

Let's not try to make it complicated, or twist the meaning/interpretation of Quranic verses to impose our own interpretation. That's the Mullahs' forte.

(@PAKIFALCON , Who wrote those Tafaseer and what is the authenticity of Such Tafaseer ? We don't need secondary or supplementary sources to understand Qur'an)

And as mentioned already, It is amply clear from the Quranic verses that accumulation of wealth (by an individual) is prohibited in the Holy Qur'an. I am not talking about secondary sources (such as history and hadith) though. History and Hadith were written centuries after the demise of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) on the orders of Umayyad (and later Abbasid) Kings, for political reasons. After all,, they had to justify their unIslamic actions (including their unIslamic lavish lifestyles and huge wealth that they had accumulated for themselves in violation of clear Quranic injunctions).

Have you ever wondered why was 'Bait ul Maal' (the Central Treasury at Madinah) established in the first place ? According to Yaqubi the salaries and stipends charged to the central treasury amounted to over 30 million dirhams but even the Caliph Omar Ibn Khattab was held accountable for taking an extra piece of cloth from the public treasury (which he clarified he didn't). They followed the Holy Quran and they knew that personal accumulation of wealth was prohibited, and that the Kingdom and the wealth belonged to Allah alone.

“To Him belongs what is in the heavens and what is on the earth and what is between them and what is under the soil” [20:6]

Islam does not allow ownership, as in exclusive use by a few, but gives trusteeship under defined terms. Those
(including Solomon & David A.S) who have been given this trust have huge responsibilities to others in terms of their well-being.






The Qur'an says:

".... Certainly, right has become clearly distinct from wrong... " [2:256]

How much investment did Muhammad (PBUH) have ? How much money did he have ? If you are spreading truth, You don't need money and investment.


“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?”


― Alphonse de Lamartine,



You need money and investment for Propaganda purposes only, and that's exactly what Mr. Naik does. He doesn't preach Islam, he preaches a very literal and extremely narrow interpretation of Islam that has been around for two hundred years only. (i.e Wahhabism)

This, however, is not something unique to the Saudi Royal Family. Almost Every ruler/dynasty in the Islamic history has done the same. Hanafi madhab was the state sponsored religion during most of the Abbasid rule. Haroon Rashid patronized Mutazillahs. His successors supported Traditionalists. Saladin replaced the Hanafi courts with Shafi'i administration. The Safavids promoted Shiaism in (present day) Iran and Iraq. And so on

The Founders of the Saud Dynasty made an agreement with Abdul Wahhab al-Najdi. Abdul Wahhab issued 'Fatwas' (religious decrees) declaring that it was permissible to kill those who refused to accept the political authority of Ale Saud. And in turn Wahhabism was made the state religion and Abdul Wahhab was given religious authority. This 'Marriage' has continued to this day. the Descendants of the founders of Saud Dynasty enjoy Political Authority, and the descendants of Abdul Wahhab enjoy Religious authority in KSA. It was never about religion. It was about Politics, like it always had been in the 1400 years history of Islam. The billions of Petro-Dollars spent by Ale Saud worldwide, that has created unrest from Philippines to Nigeria, are meant for consolidating and strengthening their own rule and obtain (global) legitimacy. But what they fail to realize is that times have changed. And that their actions have only resulted in global opinion turning against them (and Islam). They are doing no service to humanity, they have done more harm than good to Islam and Muslims worldwide.

Even RASOOL SAW was helped by wealth of Hazrat Khadijah and all rich Sahabas in field of tableegh as well as Jihad and other stuff

 

[Parul]

Zakir bhai India Wapise thow aao, phit 500 cr like baat karte hain. :butchers:

 

[dray]

He is man of ALLAH and slave of RASOOL SAW you hate him because he doesn't belong to your sect so be brave enough and contact me on Facebook we can have debate there

How many of these arguments you buy?

https://defence.pk/threads/10-times...d-that-he-promoted-anything-but-peace.441566/

 

[Slav Defence]

Well, Allah himself has (repeatedly) stated in the Holy Qur'an that:

"And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand (and remember): then is there any that will receive admonition?" [54:17, 54:22, 54:32 and 54:40]

Let's not try to make it complicated, or twist the meaning/interpretation of Quranic verses to impose our own interpretation. That's the Mullahs' forte.

(@PAKIFALCON , Who wrote those Tafaseer and what is the authenticity of Such Tafaseer ? We don't need secondary or supplementary sources to understand Qur'an)

And as mentioned already, It is amply clear from the Quranic verses that accumulation of wealth (by an individual) is prohibited in the Holy Qur'an. I am not talking about secondary sources (such as history and hadith) though. History and Hadith were written centuries after the demise of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) on the orders of Umayyad (and later Abbasid) Kings, for political reasons. After all,, they had to justify their unIslamic actions (including their unIslamic lavish lifestyles and huge wealth that they had accumulated for themselves in violation of clear Quranic injunctions).

Have you ever wondered why was 'Bait ul Maal' (the Central Treasury at Madinah) established in the first place ? According to Yaqubi the salaries and stipends charged to the central treasury amounted to over 30 million dirhams but even the Caliph Omar Ibn Khattab was held accountable for taking an extra piece of cloth from the public treasury (which he clarified he didn't). They followed the Holy Quran and they knew that personal accumulation of wealth was prohibited, and that the Kingdom and the wealth belonged to Allah alone.

“To Him belongs what is in the heavens and what is on the earth and what is between them and what is under the soil” [20:6]

Islam does not allow ownership, as in exclusive use by a few, but gives trusteeship under defined terms. Those
(including Solomon & David A.S) who have been given this trust have huge responsibilities to others in terms of their well-being.






The Qur'an says:

".... Certainly, right has become clearly distinct from wrong... " [2:256]

How much investment did Muhammad (PBUH) have ? How much money did he have ? If you are spreading truth, You don't need money and investment.


“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?”


― Alphonse de Lamartine,



You need money and investment for Propaganda purposes only, and that's exactly what Mr. Naik does. He doesn't preach Islam, he preaches a very literal and extremely narrow interpretation of Islam that has been around for two hundred years only. (i.e Wahhabism)

This, however, is not something unique to the Saudi Royal Family. Almost Every ruler/dynasty in the Islamic history has done the same. Hanafi madhab was the state sponsored religion during most of the Abbasid rule. Haroon Rashid patronized Mutazillahs. His successors supported Traditionalists. Saladin replaced the Hanafi courts with Shafi'i administration. The Safavids promoted Shiaism in (present day) Iran and Iraq. And so on

The Founders of the Saud Dynasty made an agreement with Abdul Wahhab al-Najdi. Abdul Wahhab issued 'Fatwas' (religious decrees) declaring that it was permissible to kill those who refused to accept the political authority of Ale Saud. And in turn Wahhabism was made the state religion and Abdul Wahhab was given religious authority. This 'Marriage' has continued to this day. the Descendants of the founders of Saud Dynasty enjoy Political Authority, and the descendants of Abdul Wahhab enjoy Religious authority in KSA. It was never about religion. It was about Politics, like it always had been in the 1400 years history of Islam. The billions of Petro-Dollars spent by Ale Saud worldwide, that has created unrest from Philippines to Nigeria, are meant for consolidating and strengthening their own rule and obtain (global) legitimacy. But what they fail to realize is that times have changed. And that their actions have only resulted in global opinion turning against them (and Islam). They are doing no service to humanity, they have done more harm than good to Islam and Muslims worldwide.

The verses that you are mentioning here along with the logics are completely irrelevant in here.
Also, in Surah Naml Allah sunhana o tala has completely mentioned for all the riches and wealth that was granted to prophet Solomon and he "owned" them.Prophet Solomon's palace is described in holy Quran in same surah in which when Queen Sheba visits him and got confused to see the floor of his palace ,tthinking of it as water and the floor than turns out to be consists of glass and she accepts his teaching and stops worshipping Sun as god.
In addition to that you are not ready to accept hadith of Rasool Allah(SAW) which is just like reading a law and not understanding the explanation and equations.You are also not realizing that things were million times different in Rasool Allah's time and that of 20th centuary.From warfare to each and everything was different and Raool Allah was aware of it.There were no TV channels or warfare planes or missile industries were in that time.There were no 4+ generation warfare systems.Swords and horses were the only equipment being used for fight.Similarly preachers use to travel via camels and horses and used to visit near by places to preach Quran.
You are only seeing that Dr.Zakir Naik has millions but you are not seeing that he is using those millions for travelling for "preaching", for running out 5-6 media channel for "preaching", for research work so as to "preach" effectively and not to forget for translating the message and "preaching" into 5-6 different languages such as Urdu,Bangla,English,Telugu,Chinese and others.
Yes , it would be wrong if he won't be using them for such noble purpose.
Very well than, instead of going through long debate with you simply I am saying that fine: why don't you show us to preach Islam without using any investment , without running out 5-6 media channels and without running your research work.Do it all without investment.
Oh yes, let me give you some horses to ride , a camel to travel as well a sword to defend yourself in case of something happens.And during your preach, mikes and seating arrangement in different country will cost a lot.Oh, for the record you cannot afford costly visas? So you will be restricted to one small region.Well , do simply just speak loudly with thousands of people.Might be some some foreigners would visit you and you may not be able to understand their language.So what? You can learn their own language first and then teach them since hiring crew or team of scholars knowing their language will costs lots of money.
Oh yes, I hope that you will be thousand times effective then him and more people will recognize light with the "miracle" of yours.

Happy preaching.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Wahabism is no religion. Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab only invited people back to Quran and Sunnah and stopped the biddats all other stories are nothing but blatant lies.

How are you my friend ?? Good to see you after two years, and I am glad that you are still alive and haven't blown yourself up (yet) ......

Anyway, No matter what you say, The Fact remains that Wahhabism is only a sect of Islam whose followers, like the followers of every other sect, claim that only their sect follows "true" Islam and all others are misguided.

And that it is a minority sect (fortunately), but (unfortunately) its Guardians (the Ale Saud) have huge Petro-Dollar reserves at their disposal which they spend generously and relentlessly to propagate and export their version of Islam to obtain global legitimacy and to consolidate and strengthen their own rule.

The verses that you are mentioning here along with the logics are completely irrelevant in here.
In addition to that you are not ready to accept hadith of Rasool Allah(SAW) which is just like reading a law and not understanding the explanation and equations.You are also not realizing that things were million times different in Rasool Allah's time and that of 20th centuary.From warfare to each and everything was different and Raool Allah was aware of it.There were no TV channels or warfare planes or missile industries were in that time.There were no 4+ generation warfare systems.Swords and horses were the only equipment being used for fight.Similarly preachers use to travel via camels and horses and used to visit near by places to preach Quran.
Very well than, instead of going through long debate with you simply I am saying that fine: why don't you show us to preach Islam without using any investment , without running out 5-6 media channels and without running your research work.Do it all without investment.
Oh yes, let me give you some horses to ride , a camel to travel as well a sword to defend yourself in case of something happens.And during your preach, mikes and seating arrangement in different country will cost a lot.Well , do simply just speak loudly with thousands of people.
Oh yes, I hope that you will be thousand to effective then him and more people will recognize light with the "miracle" of yours.

Happy preaching.

I am not saying any of what you are trying to imply here. I am only pointing out the hypocrisy of Mr. Zakir Naik .... and his Saudi masters..

 

[Zarvan]

How are you my friend ?? Good to see you after two years, and I am glad that you are still alive and haven't blown yourself up (yet) ......

Anyway, No matter what you say, The Fact remains that Wahhabism is only a sect of Islam whose followers, like the followers of every other sect, claim that only their sect follows "true" Islam and all others are misguided.

And that it is a minority sect (fortunately), but (unfortunately) its Guardians (the Ale Saud) have huge Petro-Dollar reserves at their disposal which they spend generously and relentlessly to propagate and export their version of Islam to obtain global legitimacy and to consolidate and strengthen their own rule.

That is where you are wrong Wahabism or Salafism is no sect. It's only a call to follow Quran and Sunnah and way of great Sahaba and reject bidats. It always was there and always will be.

 

[M. Sarmad]

That is where you are wrong Wahabism or Salafism is no sect. It's only a call to follow Quran and Sunnah and way of great Sahaba and reject bidats. It always was there and always will be.

^^ And I have heard exactly the same argument from the followers of almost every other sect. Shias claim that their sect has been around since the time of Muhammad and Ali. Sunnis say they follow the Sahaba and Prophet .. And so on ... However, there were no Wahhabis before the 18th century. That's a FACT

 

[Zarvan]

^^ And I have heard exactly the same argument from the followers of almost every other sect. Shias claim that their sect has been around since the time of Muhammad and Ali. Sunnis say they follow the Sahaba and Prophet .. And so on ... However, there were no Wahhabis before the 18th century. That's a FACT

They were there from day one nothing new at all

 

[M. Sarmad]

They were there from day one nothing new at all

So, Shias and Sunnis were there from Day one. But the Wahhabis, who came 1200 years later, claim that Sunnis and Shia (and their understanding/interpretation of Islam) are wrong and only the Wahhabis are true followers of Islam ? That sure is an outrageous claim !!

 

[Zarvan]

So, Shias and Sunnis were there from Day one. But the Wahhabis, who came 1200 years later, claim that Sunnis and Shia (and their understanding/interpretation of Islam) are wrong and only the Wahhabis are true followers of Islam ? That sure is an outrageous claim !!

Their is no sect such as Wahabism or Salafism. It's a call or movement of following Quran and Sunnah and the first convert to Islam used to do same thing and all Sahaba did same. So I am a Salafi and what I do is read and study Quran and Sunnah and follow it. I don't follow Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab I follow Quran and Sunnah and consensus of Sahaba. It was being done from day one.