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Well-intentioned U.S. policies sometimes work out in absurd ways, but this is hard to top: In a few weeks, India, the world's largest democracy, will probably elect as its next prime minister a politician who for nearly a decade has been prohibited from setting foot on U.S. soil.

The banned Indian official is Narendra Modi, a longtime Hindu nationalist who is the prime ministerial candidate of the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, or BJP. Nine years ago, U.S. officials denied Mr. Modi a visa just as he was preparing to travel to New York to address Indian-Americans at a rally scheduled in Madison Square Garden.

That 2005 decision was based on Mr. Modi's failure to stop a series of deadly riots three years earlier by Hindus against minority Muslims in the Indian state of Gujarat, where he was (and remains) chief minister. The State Department invoked a little-known U.S. law passed in 1998 that makes foreign officials responsible for "severe violations of religious freedom" ineligible for visas. Mr. Modi is the only person ever denied a visa to the U.S. under this provision, U.S. officials confirm.

The 2005 decision by the George W. Bush administration now puts President Barack Obama in a bind. The U.S. could continue to deny entry to the likely leader of a democracy of great strategic importance. But virtually everyone seems to believe that once Mr. Modi's party wins office, the U.S. will reverse itself, and he will finally get his visa.

"Now that it looks like Modi will become prime minister, it's reasonable for the Obama administration to say it's been 12 years [since the 2002 riots], and we'll be happy to deal with him," says Nicholas Burns, the former undersecretary of state who supervised India policy during Mr. Bush's second term.

But even if Mr. Modi ultimately gets a visa, it is worth recalling the circumstances in which he was initially denied.

The story begins in 1998, when Congress passed the International Religious Freedom Act, which set up new U.S. mechanisms to combat religious persecution, including a standing Commission on International Religious Freedom.

At the time, many members of Congress were concerned about reports that Christians were being persecuted in such places as China and Sudan. But critics said that the act reflected a Christian or Judeo-Christian bias. The National Council of Churches even warned that the new law might "promote the cause of Christians to the exclusion of persecuted believers of other religions."

That's where Mr. Modi enters the story. He was virtually raised by India's Hindu nationalist movement. The son of a local grocer, he spent his childhood in the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, a Hindu nationalist group that has sought to turn India, which is wildly diverse but has a large Hindu majority, into a Hindu state. After the group founded the BJP as its political wing in 1980, the fiery Mr. Modi rose through its ranks, becoming chief minister of Gujarat in 2001.

The next year, horrific violence erupted between Hindus and Muslims in Mr. Modi's state. At a train station, Muslims surrounded a train carrying Hindu pilgrims, and the two groups clashed. The train was set on fire, and 58 passengers died. Many Hindus blamed Muslim agitators for the blaze, and Hindu mobs rampaged through Muslim communities, beating people to death, raping women and burning homes. Over a period of days, more than 1,000 people were killed.

After years of investigations, no evidence has emerged to link Mr. Modi directly to these attacks. But questions linger about whether he took appropriate action to stop them; in some cases, the police stood by and did nothing. Mr. Modi has repeatedly said that he did what he could.

In Washington, the new Commission on International Religious Freedom took the opportunity to demonstrate that it sought to protect all religions, not just Christians. It held a rare public hearing on Capitol Hill about the anti-Muslim riots in India, taking vivid testimony from eyewitnesses. The members were struck by Mr. Modi's inaction. "It was wrenching, and it was documented," says one commission member, Shirin Tahir-Kheli, a Pakistani-American political scientist and former State Department official who was born in India.

Three years later, Mr. Modi applied for a visa to the U.S. to speak to audiences in New York and Florida. He had emerged as a figure who could attract support for his party at home and among the Indian diaspora.

But Mr. Modi had also become an intensely polarizing figure among Indian-Americans. Other Indian-American groups, including the Indian American Muslim Council, learned of Modi's planned visit and began lobbying the State Department, Congress and the sponsors of his speaking engagements to prevent him from appearing.

The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom said that Mr. Modi should be denied entry. The State Department agreed. Mr. Modi already held a tourist visa, but the State Department revoked it, citing the 1998 law on violations of religious freedom. "He was responsible for the performance of state institutions" at the time of the 2002 Gujarat riots, the U.S. ambassador to India, David Mulford, explained.

Bush administration officials also didn't see Mr. Modi as high-ranking enough to matter much. "At the time, he was not a national figure," says Mr. Burns, the former senior State Department official. "He was not the prime minister of India or a cabinet official. He was a regional official, and what had happened [in Gujarat] was reprehensible."

Denying Mr. Modi a visa hasn't stopped him from speaking to U.S. audiences. He has appeared often—not in person but by satellite from India. "The only value of the visa denial was symbolic," says Ashley Tellis, an India specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "It did not cut off his connectivity to the people he wanted to meet."

But Mr. Modi was insulted and said that he wouldn't apply for a visa again. U.S. officials say, however, that he has tried indirectly. "From time to time, we would get feelers from people who knew him, or on his behalf, on whether we would grant a visa," says Richard Boucher, who headed the State Department's South Asia bureau from 2006 to 2009. "We would tell them, 'No, nothing's changed.' "

Finally, two months ago, as Mr. Modi's party—now running on a message of economic development and clean government—seemed poised to defeat the ruling Congress party in national elections, the Obama administration signaled a change. U.S. ambassador to India Nancy Powell held a one-hour meeting with Mr. Modi, the first such meeting since his visa was denied in 2005.

The State Department now has some grounds to claim that Mr. Modi's legal situation has changed since he was banned. Last year, an investigation approved by the Indian Supreme Court absolved Mr. Modi of complicity in the rioting. Based on that finding, a court in Gujarat found that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute him.

But if Mr. Modi becomes India's prime minister, that fact by itself will be the main reason for the U.S. to shift course and allow him to enter—not any greater U.S. comfort with his past actions (and inactions).

"You cannot deny a visa to an Indian prime minister, for heaven's sake. How could we conduct an important relationship?" said Dr. Tahir-Kheli. "But by the same token, I hope it will be an inclusive Mr. Modi, representing a country that has all kinds of religions and mind-sets."
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303380004579520041301275638


 
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does any one has links of pakistanies talking about latest events regarding india like modies vist to US and sucsess of MOM ...thanks in advance
 
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He is a jackass , why do we gives so much importance to what he says. Many Pakistani members too think he is an idiot. I think Hamid's and swami's articles should be banned on PDF they will always lead to trolling.
Zaid Hamid is representative of the average Pakistani psyche in both views and intelligence. Therefore his views are a barometer on what average Pakistanis think like and consequently how we as a nation should treat Pakistan. There is no doubt we should give Zaid Hamid due importance on this account.

who follows this faggot :lol;
Lakhs of Pakistani youth.
 
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"Indian democracy is led by a religious fascist, rapist, killer. US democracy is led by a War criminal. Then they want us to follow democracy"

Somebody please tell this idiot that India doesn't give a fcuk whether Pakistan has democracy or whether it is ruled by Martians. :D
 
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is there any new funny video of him come out yet.... like Pakistanis on moon in next 5 years or farista roohs fighting for paksitani army in indo pak war
 
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Indians, you guys are unconsciously giving him a great deal of "respect". Your entire media and spokesmen including members of this forum are gone phobic for him. If you term him crazy, justify why your entire country is gone cha-cha, calls him joker yet cannot overlook what he says. India is an enemy state for us, identified and accepted - now should we expect red-carpet and medal of honor for Zaid Hamid from members of an enemy state..? If not, you are offering him a great deal of return for he doing what he is doing :laughcry:
 
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Indians, you guys are unconsciously giving him a great deal of "respect". Your entire media and spokesmen including members of this forum are gone phobic for him. If you term him crazy, justify why your entire country is gone cha-cha, calls him joker yet cannot overlook what he says. India is an enemy state for us, identified and accepted - now should we expect red-carpet and medal of honor for Zaid Hamid from members of an enemy state..? If not, you are offering him a great deal of return for he doing what he is doing :laughcry:

We need to give him a center stage to show the world the Pakistani mentality :D
 
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Indians, you guys are unconsciously giving him a great deal of "respect". Your entire media and spokesmen including members of this forum are gone phobic for him. If you term him crazy, justify why your entire country is gone cha-cha, calls him joker yet cannot overlook what he says. India is an enemy state for us, identified and accepted - now should we expect red-carpet and medal of honor for Zaid Hamid from members of an enemy state..? If not, you are offering him a great deal of return for he doing what he is doing :laughcry:


Whole country? Wtf:cheesy:

You do know that we are 1.25 billion people and not the few here on pdf who know this clown...don't you?.

Besides, as contrarian said, he displays and is a barometer of Pakistani mentality that most pakistani members of pdf display too.
 
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