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Z-10 & Z-19 Combat Helicopter News & Discussion

Sir, Helicopters are not designed for " Frozen Mountains" but they are designed for high altitude operations.

If a Helicopter is strong enough to operate a high altitude, it is certainly very strong to operate at Sea Level.

More so at near sea level as it would have better performance and much higher load carrying abilities... however the main purpose of LCH was to support the mountain crops on the Indo-Tibetan border with strong fire power.

For Anti-Armor roles Apaches would lead the pack... along with LCH and Rudra in supportive roles along with Mi 35 and armed Mi 17V5s and Cheeta Helos.
 
What is the SPH of WZ-10A. I don't take wikipedia as reliable that states 1350sph for WZ-10 [not A] and 1400+ for hindustani LCH if we compare WZ-10A is much heavier then LCH, WZ-10A requires much powerful Engine..


WZ-9G Turboshaft Engine 1300KW for WZ-10 is enough

WZ-16 Turboshaft Engine 1600KW for heavy WZ-10 as Apache

WZ-10 Turboshaft Engine 1800KW......
 
Now where is that 1diot who insists that there exists only one or two Z-10s?

His Western Master is reporting:

China Goes All In With The Z-10

January 6, 2013: China’s new Z-10 helicopter gunship is apparently in mass production. In the last year the Z-10 has been photographed serving with four of the five aviation brigades in the army. There is a squadron (12 helicopters) of Z-10s in each brigade. The move to mass production of the Z-10 was a surprise because this aircraft has been in development for over 14 years and the several prototypes encountered numerous problems. This led to failed attempts to buy or steal helicopter gunship technology from Russia and South Africa.

Two years ago some of the Z-10 prototypes were sent to Chinese Army aviation units for field testing. While not a failure, the newer and lighter Z-19 was apparently seen as a better candidate for mass production. Work continued on the Z-10 because the Z-19 is basically an armed scout helicopter. China always wanted something more like the American AH-64 Apache. That would be the Z-10, at least once all the development problems were overcome. The seven ton Z-10 is smaller than the 10 ton AH-64 and also has a crew of two. The Z-10 is armed with 30mm autocannon and can carry up to a ton of rockets or missiles.

For three years now the Z-19 armed scout helicopter has been spotted in the air, most recently painted in military colors. The Z-19 was earlier known as the Z-9W. The Z-19 is yet another Chinese helicopter based on the Eurocopter Dauphin (which has been built under license in China for two decades). The Z-19 is a 4.5 ton, two seat armed helicopter. It can carry a 23mm autocannon and up to half a ton of munitions (missiles, usually). Cruising speed is 245 kilometers an hour and range is 700 kilometers. The Z-19 is basically an upgraded Z-9W.

Warplanes: China Goes All In With The Z-10

For his information, the above is still an under-estimate of the number of Z-10s in service, including the actual number of PLA Army Aviation units that have the opters in question.

Indians have a strange logic and very odd way of thinking.:woot:

Now that China has a newer and more power engine(in WZ-XX) nearly at the ready, it is in a position to upgrade the Z-10 onto a heavy attack copter that the Apache is any time it pleases.
 
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I am quite sure that PAA is talking about ATAK but they really want to have 30 Z-10Ps and will going to order it soon....
 
WZ-10 looks to be a decent helicopter however, how it compare with contemporary attack helicopters it remains to be seen. There are around 5-6 similar attack helicopters are being developed/developing and will be inducted soon, so no need to brag about one as each of them will be having more or less similar capability.
 
WZ-10 looks to be a decent helicopter however, how it compare with contemporary attack helicopters it remains to be seen. There are around 5-6 similar attack helicopters are being developed/developing and will be inducted soon, so no need to brag about one as each of them will be having more or less similar capability.

But out of so many helo develop, I will say WZ-10 looks one of the stealthiest and sharp looking.
 
But out of so many helo develop, I will say WZ-10 looks one of the stealthiest and sharp looking.


Yes it looks good but we need to see the complete package of design, engines, avionics and weapons. If we look at individual components, each helicopter has their own merits but when we look at the complete package this is where Apache AH-64 takes the lead.
 
The most important is not if Z-10 is advanced enough or not, the most important is that China has succeed in it's "Make" strategy and they have completed the entire process of design and manufacturing of an attack helicopter.

Once we know that Chinese have successfully built this Z-10, we know that they can do ever better in the next program.

For this point, our Indian friends should take example from their Chinese neighbours, instead of prefering "Buy" strategy, they should put more efforts on their own program and not buying everything...

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The 9th Army Aviation Brigade::coffee:

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