Young alleged Boluchis asking for azadi from Pakistan

[Awesome]

Pakistan is currently suffering from a lot of new battle fronts from with in and from out side .

Indian Intervention in Pakistan can lead to a disaster in my Mind. BLA is just a small group of Jobless Crazies Playing in the Indian Hands.

Baluchistan is not a Big issue as it is being fabricated on today's media specially by Indian Media.

BLA is a terrorist organization and it has a number of supporters ie : India / Israel (There are some Baloch's in Israel) and Pakistan's Christian movement is Openly supporting BLA through its channels and by their International Support.

Now about the videos , they can be narrated in 100 ways so i must say that Pakistani youth must come forward with solution for National Integrity .

Balochistan issue rose to its heights during the time Bugti funded and aided the BLA in cahoots with India. I don't even hear about it in the Indian media so often now. Now our own media is highlighting their issues so our leaders can be held accountable.

Our leaders have a duty to serve them properly.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Certain groups openly claim the killing of innocents - some Baluch militant groups for example proudly claim the killings of innocent civilian settlers from Punjab, and in the recent past Hazara and kashmiri laborers.

There can be no question that groups that commit and proudly claim such acts are vile scum and terrorists, no better than the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Even the LeT had enough sense to try and hide their role in the Mumbai attacks. Granted they did so poorly, and because they did not want GoP pressure on them, but the point is that even they realized that it was wrong and would be seen as wrong and so it was best to hide their role.

Some of the Baluch militant groups do not even have those qualms.

 

[karan.1970]

Pakistan is currently suffering from a lot of new battle fronts from with in and from out side .

Indian Intervention in Pakistan can lead to a disaster in my Mind. BLA is just a small group of Jobless Crazies Playing in the Indian Hands.

Baluchistan is not a Big issue as it is being fabricated on today's media specially by Indian Media.

BLA is a terrorist organization and it has a number of supporters ie : India / Israel (There are some Baloch's in Israel) and Pakistan's Christian movement is Openly supporting BLA through its channels and by their International Support.

Now about the videos , they can be narrated in 100 ways so i must say that Pakistani youth must come forward with solution for National Integrity .

The funny thing is that if you replace Balochistan with Kashmir, BLA with LeT, India with Pakistan and Pakistan with India, most of the post could have come from an Indian

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The funny thing is that if you replace Balochistan with Kashmir, BLA with LeT, India with Pakistan and Pakistan with India, most of the post could have come from an Indian

As pointed out often, Kashmir is a territorial dispute with pending UNSC resolutions validating it as a territorial dispute whose resolution hinges upon the successful exercise of the right of self-determination by the people of J&K.

The above has been recognized by India, Pakistan and the international community.

No such context exists for Baluchistan.

Baluchistan can only be compared with the separatist movement in Indian Punjab in the past and the current violence in the Indian North Eastern States.

 

[Kompromat]

Balochistan issue rose to its heights during the time Bugti funded and aided the BLA in cahoots with India. I don't even hear about it in the Indian media so often now. Now our own media is highlighting their issues so our leaders can be held accountable.

Our leaders have a duty to serve them properly.

Just a question:

What if our Naive Govt Fails in this issue , What do you suggest as the Outcome or the Reaction?

 

[Kompromat]

The funny thing is that if you replace Balochistan with Kashmir, BLA with LeT, India with Pakistan and Pakistan with India, most of the post could have come from an Indian

Kashmir is a Disputed Land Between India and Pakistan.

Baluchistan is our Internal issue and not a Big one .

 

[Awesome]

Just a question:

What if our Naive Govt Fails in this issue , What do you suggest as the Outcome or the Reaction?

Who knows, probably nothing much.

Our leaders have failed all the time, what happened?

We keep trying harder.

 

[Abi]

I have a question and i hope no one gets offended: If the Baluchistan hold a referendum and decide that they want to separate from Pakistan, would you favor it or would you favor a forced occupation?

 

[Awesome]

I have a question and i hope no one gets offended: If the Baluchistan hold a referendum and decide that they want to separate from Pakistan, would you favor it or would you favor a forced occupation?

Nobody favors any fragmentation of Pakistan. Pakistan's national interests rule supreme. National interests are like that, they can trump the entire world. To us, Pakistan is more important than every country in the world.

Of course most people try to be moralistic and we won't let that situation arise at all.

 

[Kompromat]

I have a question and i hope no one gets offended: If the Baluchistan hold a referendum and decide that they want to separate from Pakistan, would you favor it or would you favor a forced occupation?

Sir you are taking the problem too seriously , balochs are Patriot Pakistanis.

BLA is the problem not the baloch Nation itself & as you see what we did with Taliban .

We will deal with BLA in the same Fashion as we dealt with the Terror.

Whoever will try to Dismantle Pakistan would be " Doomed"

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Just a question:

What if our Naive Govt Fails in this issue , What do you suggest as the Outcome or the Reaction?

Certainly not East Pakistan.

Several things work against Baluchistan facing the fate of EP, even with external intervention.

• Geographically isolated from India and therefore extremely hard to have the sort of covert ops and intervention that ocurred in East Pakistan.
• Demogrpahic issues - the Baluch population is only about 3.5 million, and the Pashtun population in Baluchistan may have overtaken them.
• The small size of the ethnic Baluch population (a very small minority of which are involved in militant activity) makes it very hard to create the kind of chaos and violence we saw in East Pakistan, that had a population as large as West Pakistan.
• Even if Baluchistan was forcibly separated, through external intervention, Pakistan would not accept it, and the small Baluch population size would mean that an independent Baluchistan would not be able to defend itself from a Pakistani State bent on reclaiming its territory. The only way to maintain an independent Baluchistan would be through the deployment of massive foreign troops to keep Pakistani forces away. Which nation would be willing to commit billions in costs and tens of thousands in men to 'guard' an independent Baluchistan for decades?

 

[Khajur]

As pointed out often, Kashmir is a territorial dispute with pending UNSC resolutions validating it as a territorial dispute whose resolution hinges upon the successful exercise of the right of self-determination by the people of J&K.

The above has been recognized by India, Pakistan and the international community.

No such context exists for Baluchistan.

Baluchistan can only be compared with the separatist movement in Indian Punjab in the past and the current violence in the Indian North Eastern States.

Its true that there is territorial dispute between india and pakistan over kashmir. And while incase of Baluchistan there mayn't be any international dispute with a foreign country,but Baluchi themselves think that punjabi dominated pakistan has wrongfully annexed their land with pakistan and colonized it.Just hear the opinions of these men and women comparing Baluchistan with kashmir in the 3rd and 4th videos and sloganeering Azadi for Baluchistan from pakistan in the same tone some kashmiri do aganist india .

 

[Abi]

Nobody favors any fragmentation of Pakistan. Pakistan's national interests rule supreme. National interests are like that, they can trump the entire world. To us, Pakistan is more important than every country in the world.

Of course most people try to be moralistic and we won't let that situation arise at all.

So you mean the majority of Pakistanis would support occupying Baluchistan?

I hope this is never the case and i wish Pakistan nothing but peace and prosperity, but i get the sense that the majority of the Baluchis want independence.

 

[Hammy007]

I have a question and i hope no one gets offended: If the Baluchistan hold a referendum and decide that they want to separate from Pakistan, would you favor it or would you favor a forced occupation?

and what about iranian kurdestan and iranian balochisan, if they want to separate will your mullah government let them separate and live alone, NOOOOOOO!!!! will the patriot iranians want big NOOO!!

then why you ask us? because you think we are weak??

 

[Awesome]

So you mean the majority of Pakistanis would support occupying Baluchistan?

I hope this is never the case and i wish Pakistan nothing but peace and prosperity, but i get the sense that the majority of the Baluchis want independence.

Your feelings aside, they really don't. Many Balochis would testify for it on this forum.

Most rural Baloch are oppressed by feudal lords. So according to the season when Feudal lords are in favor of Pakistan (that is when the federal budget reserves a special bribe budget for them), everything is rosy. When they stop getting their bribe, they make such noises.