Yoga classes are secular, says US court

[uparyupari]

Actually yoga is taught in some Indian schools. My sons school teaches Yoga as part of physical exercise and he has been doing yoga for past 4 years. The school is owned by an educator who happens to be a Muslim and students are from different faiths. I haven't met a parent who had any objection with Yoga being taught in school. I guess who doesn't want a flexible body and better health.

how does it matter if a non hindu practices the exercises which were designed by the yogis to keep optimum help. Just because they practice Yoga postures it does not make them Hindu. You can call it by any name if it suits you better.

Call it Gaga for all I care.

Its good that yoga is taught in schools.

Yoga is not an exercise, but a way and means to align the body with the mind and bring it under our control. The objective of the Yogi is to then channel this self control back into his life.

Physically by shatkarma, socially by Nithya karma, self by Kamya karma and Nisshiddha karma, spiritually with Sat-Cakra-Nirupana, socially with Naimittika karma.

Just because you have a myopic view of yoga, a kupa manduka (frog in the well) view of the world, it does not mean the world is not larger or bigger than your limited imagination.

There are multiple treaties on Yoga in Hinduism. A Yogi who practices yoga is not "exercising", that is a side effect, not the real reason for him to practice yoga.

Anyone who practices Yoga is practising Hinduism, following the teachings of Hinduism. He is following the path of Yoga as defined in Hindu religious books. All asanas come from there.


I do not see why Hindus have to divest Yoga from Hinduism just to satisfy your desperate need to sound "secular".

Target the kids, they are full of innate curiosity and desire to learn that hasn't been beaten out of them by the drivel known as modern education.

Engaging adults who are too arrogant in their limited world view and too closed minded, is a waste of time in my opinion; thus, I rarely bother with them.

Only the children will practice Hinduism and call it Christianity......... will all its exclusivity and persecution of pagans.

What is your exact problem if the US schools teach only the Yoagasanas to its children for health reasons only?

The same reason you cannot publish an article written by somebody else ..... its called plagiarism and is a federal offence that can land you in Jail.

 

[TejasMk3]

What is your exact problem if the US schools teach only the Yoagasanas to its children for health reasons only?

The problem is not in schools teaching it, but people claiming it is not derived from anything from hindu philosophy.
There is nothing wrong in stating that it does have many things from hindu philosophy is there?

People shout so much when bollywood copies songs/movies from elsewhere, but using something that is ours and not giving credit is okay?

Cultural appropriation is a real problem.
Stop cultural appropriation of Yoga: Yoga is all about Hinduism, albeit without the ism | Sandhu Bhamra on Finding Self

Yoga as it has developed in the last 20 years is rooted in American culture, not Indian culture," San Diego Superior Court Judge John Meyer said. "It is a distinctly American cultural phenomenon. "

Yoga is american, do you agree?

Here is another example of appropriation:
‘Tirukkural’ is secular work: Tamil scholar - The Hindu

Perhaps you have not seen this, but here dravidian movts have been trying to de-hinduize Thirukural by removing references to Indra and other gods. There were many political effects to this. Evangelicals also jumped on this and used it to say Tamils were never connected to Hinduism, and so on.

Better to claim what is yours..I see nothing wrong in it.

 

[Dragon Ball]

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If people find these exercises helpful, then I say promote in every school. Yoga is a vast subject and these kids need not be subjected to religious dogmas. Let them get the benefits from these stretching exercises and if they are curious they will study up on Hinduism and Yoga's origin when they grow up.

Yoga asanas is a 5000 year old practice passed from teacher to student and was codified only recently. How can we claim intellectual property rights to an ancient spiritual discipline?

If you want acknowledgement about its origin then you get plenty of it in media. Nobody is in denial about Yoga's origin and its roots in hinduism.

Wait for a few years, there may be at this moment scores of Mallu Churches re-writing the origins of Yoga. Do not be surprised to hear that St. Thomas gave the secrets of yoga he had learnt from Jesus to the heathens when he landed in India in 1 AD. Already they believe that Christianity is older than Hinduism in Kerala and it was the Christian kings who gave refuge to the persecuted demon worshiper (aka Hindus) in Kerala. Another of their pet belief is that the Thirukural was written by St. Thomas.

Yoga != hinduism.... It was just invented, practiced and preached by hindus... In today's glovalised world, anybody can practice it... Yoga keeps body and mind healthy....

Yeah, you are right. Hinduism is only caste, curry, Sati, and dowry.

 

[uparyupari]

Yeah, you are right. Hinduism is only caste, curry, Sati, and dowry.

Clearly Yoga is not Hinduism.

Shiva is not called ADI-YOGI (First Yogi). Yogi the Bear is the real deal.

Yoga actually comes from Yagna, only in a yagna the offering is made from self to others for the well being, in Yoga the offering of self is made to the self. In Yagna its the fire that burns and purifies, in Yoga its the self control that purifies. In Yagna we say "svaha" to offer our self into the fire, in yoga its siva when we offer our self to burn away the unreal to understand the real.

Yet, Yoga is not Hinduism. Its a physical exercise like Gymnastics.


BTW, the following is interesting read.

Yoga in America: Where Bowing to God Is Not Religious | Jill Lawson

 

[Dragon Ball]

Clearly Yoga is not Hinduism.

Shiva is not called ADI-YOGI (First Yogi). Yogi the Bear is the real deal.

Yoga actually comes from Yagna, only in a yagna the offering is made from self to others for the well being, in Yoga the offering of self is made to the self. In Yagna its the fire that burns and purifies, in Yoga its the self control that purifies. In Yagna we say "svaha" to offer our self into the fire, in yoga its siva when we offer our self to burn away the unreal to understand the real.

Yet, Yoga is not Hinduism. Its a physical exercise like Gymnastics.


BTW, the following is interesting read.

Yoga in America: Where Bowing to God Is Not Religious | Jill Lawson

Oh please do not say Shiva is also called Adi-Yogi. Just yesterday a secular moron from Delhi was teaching me how Shiavism is not connected to Shivism. How Rudra, proto-Shiva, Pashupatinath are not names of our Lord Shiva. Now if you say Adi-Yogi is also Shiva and not Yogi the Bear, his brain will explode at this audacity of Hindu fanatics.

 

[uparyupari]

Oh please do not say Shiva is also called Adi-Yogi. Just yesterday a secular moron from Delhi was teaching me how Shiavism is not connected to Shivism. How Rudra, proto-Shiva, Pashupatinath are not names of our Lord Shiva. Now if you say Adi-Yogi is also Shiva and not Yogi the Bear, his brain will explode at this audacity of Hindu fanatics.

Ah yes, the trick is to add PROTO in front of any Hindu belief to dilute it and make it "global"

JNU "seculars" love it. Who is the genius in question ?

Next time ask him why the Maha Mritujaya Mantra of Shiva is mentioned in the Rg Veda.

Om, Tryambakam yajamahe, Sugandhim pushti-vardhanam;
Urvarukamiva bandhanan, Mrityor mukshiya mamritat.

Worship the three eyed great one, who's fragrance nourishes the world,
Like a fruit cut from its bondage, Free us of fear of death with your immortality.

 

[Dragon Ball]

Ah yes, the trick is to add PROTO in front of any Hindu belief to dilute it and make it "global"

JNU "seculars" love it. Who is the genius in question ?

Next time ask him why the Maha Mritujaya Mantra of Shiva is mentioned in the Rg Veda.

Om, Tryambakam yajamahe, Sugandhim pushti-vardhanam;
Urvarukamiva bandhanan, Mrityor mukshiya mamritat.

Worship the three eyed great one, who's fragrance nourishes the world,
Like a fruit cut from its bondage, Free us of fear of death with your immortality.

One retard called as manavkalia. He claimed the seal found in Harappa is not of Shiva and has nothing to do with Shiva, but was proto-Shiva. Vedic civilization is obviously only 3000 years old unlike Harappan civilization.

 

[uparyupari]

One retard called as manavkalia. He claimed the seal found in Harappa is not of Shiva and has nothing to do with Shiva, but was proto-Shiva. Vedic civilization is obviously only 3000 years old unlike Harappan civilization.

How does he explain the Shiv Lingam found there ?

Why is Shiva called PashuPati Nath ? (lord of all Animals) Why is the PashuPati nath sitting in a Yoga position ?

Why is this Shiva sitting on what appears to like a mountain in a Yoga pose ?

Why is Shiva's BULL so prominent in the evidences ?

 

[Dragon Ball]

How does he explain the Shiv Lingam found there ?

Why is Shiva called PashuPati Nath ? (lord of all Animals) Why is the PashuPati nath sitting in a Yoga position ?

Why is this Shiva sitting on what appears to like a mountain in a Yoga pose ?

Why is Shiva's BULL so prominent in the evidences ?

Are you sure that is Lingam? Verify with the seculars if it is proto-Lingam. Likewise, those bulls. Damn Hindu fanatics, trying to digest a whole civilization.

The fourth pic is from the Gundestrup Cauldron (200 BC–300 AD), discovered in Denmark, probably ofGaulish or Thracian origin, depicting an antlered figure holding a serpent and a torc, flanked by animals (including a stag), and seated under, or adorned with disputed depictions of the pipal leafis remarkably similar to the depictions on the Pashupati Seal

 

[uparyupari]

Are you sure that is Lingam? Verify with the seculars if it is proto-Lingam. Likewise, those bulls. Damn Hindu fanatics, trying to digest a whole civilization.

How about this ? A Yogi sitting on a mountain, worshipped by his devotees, surrounded by Snakes ........ tell me this is not Shiva.

BTW, which thread was this ?

 

[Dragon Ball]

How about this ? A Yogi sitting on a mountain, worshipped by his devotees, surrounded by Snakes ........ tell me this is not Shiva.

BTW, which thread was this ?

It looks like proto-Shiva with proto-Snakes and proto-devotees to me.

It was Christians are targeted in India thread.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

WORLD YOGA DAY is on June 21

It has been accepted by UNO

 

[uparyupari]

It looks like proto-Shiva with proto-Snakes and proto-devotees to me.

It was Christians are targeted in India thread.

I tend to ignore threads like that. But I will keep out an eye for him in the future.

 

[JanjaWeed]

The teaching of yoga in Encinitas public schools does not represent an illegal attempt at religious indoctrination, an appeals court ruled Friday.

A three-judge panel of the 4th District Court of Appeal upheld a decision by the San Diego Superior Court that the yoga program in the Encinitas Union School District is "devoid of any religious, mystical or spiritual trappings."

Under a three-year grant from the K.P. Jois Foundation, which promises Ashtanga yoga, yoga exercises are taught in twice-weekly, 30-minute classes.

Parents of two students had sued on grounds that the yoga program promotes Hinduism while the district discourages any display of Christianity.

Dean Broyles, attorney for the Escondido-based National Center for Law and Policy. representing the parents, said that the program "represents a serious breach of the public trust" and a violation of state law that prohibits religious instruction in public schools.

Tim Baird, superintendent of the K-6 district in northern San Diego County, said the program is part of an effort to teach students the benefits of exercise and healthful eating.

"We are not teaching religion, we are not instructing anyone in religious dogma," Baird said. "Yoga is very mainstream."

Parents can opt to have their children excused from the yoga classes.

But Broyles said the ability for parents to opt out is not sufficient. The program "is extremely divisive and has unfortunately led to the harassment, discrimination, bullying and segregation of children who, for good reason, opt out," he said.

The school district hired the yoga instructors and controlled the curriculum, the appeals court said.

There was no evidence that the foundation "attempted to monitor or influence the yoga program in order to ensure that any purported religious goals were met," the court's decision said.

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Appeals court upholds yoga program in Encinitas public schools - LA Times

Yoga classes are secular, says US court - The Times of India

lol... try introducing the same in Indian schools & make it compulsory... & see what the reactions would be like by the so called seculars in India!

 

[micky]

WTF. Indians should be ashamed.

Yoga is one of the astika paths in Hinduism.

Instead of protesting this, Hindus are celebrating this. This is a classic example of digesting Hindu and Indian culture by the US and denying Hinduism the Intellectual property of this means of spirituality.

I condemn this move to divest Hinduism of Yoga.

you are saying theory of relativity is jewish