Y-20 heavy transport aircraft News & Discussions

[shuttler]

chinese lacks aesthetic sense!!! Why did chinese paint the Y-20 that putrid colour?????

if it is for commercial flights that you can say that or otherwise all your B/S
also it is still in its flight trials

 

[LIAO]

if it is for commercial flights that you can say that or otherwise all your B/S
also it is still in its flight trials

chinese that took a leaf from U.S. army's book are now doing improper imitation that produces the reverse effect.

I must say I find it unacceptable.

 

[Jguo]

Just to clarify:

The yellowish color, we have been seeing on many test planes, is a cerium-enhanced e-coat paint or primer layer. E-coat is an emulsion of organic resins and de-ionized water, which is in a stable condition. The e-coat solution also comprises of some solvent and some ionic components.

The dark grey color now on Y-20 is the real primer. This color is for a relative dark color paint in the future.

Btw first post

 

[shuttler]

chinese that took a leaf from U.S. army's book are now doing improper imitation that produces the reverse effect.

I must say I find it unacceptable.

as brain-washed as yourself you should write to the pentagon and tell the yanks to file a law suit against us!

Y-20 is up flying and testing well and it will soon be equipped with our engine. Good going China!

 

[JohnyD]

The Chinese Air Force launched the Y-20 for the first time on Saturday (as reported by AFP), an event the Chinese government press heralded as “a significant milestone” that would “enhance … global power projection.”

The Y-20 looks a lot like the Boeing-built C-17 used by the U.S. Air Force, but critics say it falls short of the Globemaster III’s performance in a number of respects. Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of the Canadian-based Kanwa Defense Review, said that the Y-20 was technologically inferior to other military transport planes. True figures for the Y-20’s maximum load and flying range were likely to be lower than those cited in state media due to the plane’s reliance on a “very old” Russian-designed engine.

“(The engine’s) oil consumption is very bad, it wastes a lot of fuel,” he said, pointing out that because of noise some developed countries have banned aircraft using it from landing, threatening its potential appearance at European air shows. (And that reality wouldn’t help it’s foreign military sales effort or international reputation.)

Chang also noted that the C-17’s long-range performance is possible because of the airplane’s composite materials, the manufacture of which the Chinese have struggled with to date. And the Y-20 was likely to take at least another five years to enter operational service, he added.

But the Chinese only want to talk about capabilites. The Y-20 has a maximum payload of 66 tons, which it can carry as far as 2,700 miles, the China Daily said, and with 55 tons on board it could fly from western China to Cairo.

It is big enough to hold the heaviest tank used by China’s army, the paper added, quoting a military expert as saying that “the heavy air freighters will ensure that we are able to safeguard our interests overseas.”

The Y-20 also allows the Chinese to end their dependence on Russian-made Il-76s for their transport needs.


Read more: http://defensetech.org/2013/01/28/china-debuts-homegrown-c-17-clone/#ixzz2Maj8k7db
Defense.org

 

[LIAO]

The Chinese Air Force launched the Y-20 for the first time on Saturday (as reported by AFP), an event the Chinese government press heralded as “a significant milestone” that would “enhance … global power projection.”

The Y-20 looks a lot like the Boeing-built C-17 used by the U.S. Air Force, but critics say it falls short of the Globemaster III’s performance in a number of respects. Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of the Canadian-based Kanwa Defense Review, said that the Y-20 was technologically inferior to other military transport planes. True figures for the Y-20’s maximum load and flying range were likely to be lower than those cited in state media due to the plane’s reliance on a “very old” Russian-designed engine.

“(The engine’s) oil consumption is very bad, it wastes a lot of fuel,” he said, pointing out that because of noise some developed countries have banned aircraft using it from landing, threatening its potential appearance at European air shows. (And that reality wouldn’t help it’s foreign military sales effort or international reputation.)

Chang also noted that the C-17’s long-range performance is possible because of the airplane’s composite materials, the manufacture of which the Chinese have struggled with to date. And the Y-20 was likely to take at least another five years to enter operational service, he added.

But the Chinese only want to talk about capabilites. The Y-20 has a maximum payload of 66 tons, which it can carry as far as 2,700 miles, the China Daily said, and with 55 tons on board it could fly from western China to Cairo.

It is big enough to hold the heaviest tank used by China’s army, the paper added, quoting a military expert as saying that “the heavy air freighters will ensure that we are able to safeguard our interests overseas.”

The Y-20 also allows the Chinese to end their dependence on Russian-made Il-76s for their transport needs.


Read more: http://defensetech.org/2013/01/28/china-debuts-homegrown-c-17-clone/#ixzz2Maj8k7db
Defense.org

Please watch for exciting new engine and additional product lines coming soon!

 

[Zabaniyah]

looks like stealthy cargo plane

what is it?

Whatever it is, the fact is that the pic is photoshopped. The shadows of the planes do nto match the angle of the shadows of the crew.

Lockheed’s New STOL Airlifter Design:
IMAGES: Lockheed's stealth C-130 successor revealed - The DEW Line

@topic: Well done China. May you achieve more heights

 

[Luftwaffe]

Please watch for exciting new engine and additional product lines coming soon!

The Article is poorly written, seems it is written from someone sitting in the drawing room, he has no idea what he is talking about neither has he the complete information and profile on Y-20. The Aircraft has flown a few times and here self critics without knowing any internal systems declare themselves to know everything regarding Y-20. Now mr chang needs to be asked how do you know composites have not been used.

 

[shuttler]

好啦，我英语比较差，没有看到”底漆”的字眼啦（你也可以看到我的英语不是狗狗翻译的，就是生硬低级错误的）。上面有位巴铁兄弟在调侃平秃夫呢，要说平秃夫，最近是有名的中国航母不能抵抗“饱和攻击”，你能不能用英语去和那位兄弟说，让他去问问张平秃夫先生发现哪个国家的航母产出来，职能是去抗“饱和攻击”的？哦，别忘了，张平秃夫先生事先假设了“假如没有对舰攻击能力的辽宁舰”，请问他是怎么确定中国生产出的航母不是拿来“对舰攻击”，而是其进口时候的借口“公海赌场”用的呢？

Well, my English is relatively poor, do not see the word "primer" (you can see my English is not my translation is stiff lower error). Above bit of bar iron brothers ridicule flat bald husband, to say flat bald Cardiff, recently famous Chinese aircraft carrier can not resist the "saturation attack", you can use English to go and the brother said, so he went to ask Zhang Ping bald Mr. Cardiff which country the aircraft carrier production functions is to go against the "saturation attack"? Oh, do not forget the Mr. Zhang Ping bald husband prior assumption that "if there is no the Liaoning ship-to-ship attack capability", what he is how to determine the the produce aircraft carrier is not used to "attack" on the ship, but when their import an excuse High Seas Casino "with it?

google translation.




Most indians talk in their language on other threads are not penalised.
You have to be careful. You may get an infraction for posting in Chinese.

英文不好不要紧！Try you best to write in English. This platform is good for English practice.

Regarding Liaoning, I think this thread is about Y-20. The moderators of PDF are not too kind on us for talking other subjects not relevant to the the threads. Off-topic postings may get penalised or a ban.

You may search and find threads about our aircraft carriers such as Liaoning and post there.

This is one of many threads about Liaoning: http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-photos-multimedia/222096-peek-life-chinese-aircraft-carrier-liaoning.html. You can also find at the bottom part of the page a section for "other similar threads" which guides your browsing / posting on related topics there

Have a happy discussion on this Pakistani Defense Forum!

 

[Sasquatch]

The Article is poorly written, seems it is written from someone sitting in the drawing room, he has no idea what he is talking about neither has he the complete information and profile on Y-20. The Aircraft has flown a few times and here self critics without knowing any internal systems declare themselves to know everything regarding Y-20. Now mr chang needs to be asked how do you know composites have not been used.

It was by Andrei Pinkov who downplays most of China's military achievements and encourages to buy Russian, you should see some of his articles.

 

[Sasquatch]

as
Y-20 is up flying and testing well and it will soon be equipped with our engine. Good going China!

The D30 engines will be used until the WS20 is ready sometime in 2016, and the couple more il76's will be ordered.

 

[shuttler]

The D30 engines will be used until the WS20 is ready sometime in 2016, and the couple more il76's will be ordered.

WS-18！?


Here D30Kp2, Russian engines are installed on Y-20:

 

[Luftwaffe]

It was by Andrei Pinkov who downplays most of China's military achievements and encourages to buy Russian, you should see some of his articles.

I am sure russians are feeling terrible if not all of them since with such a positive development more orders for il-76s are going to be slashed or already have been slashed, China can wait 4 years more without ordering a larger fleet of il-76.

Even a 16 year old kid can write a better Article than andrei pinkov.

 

[sweetgrape]

More pictures of Y20 coming.

 

[Fsjal]

Wouldn't this be the largest aircraft China made?