Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[rajvoSa]

It's funny how these govr like China and their suporters critisize US and their foreign policy based on "war on terror". But use the same "war on terror" discourse when it suits them.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I don't think its right to blame all Muslims whenever something happens. We cannot judge a entire people and religion of 1,4 billion people based on the actions of a few. And we also need to do more to look into the grievences that these people have.

Of course.

Which is why I said it is the Muslims themselves who should be the most angry at these extremists and terrorists, since they are the ones being hit the most.

Look at these terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. The Government needs to crack down again.

 

[Dillinger]

Of course.

Which is why I said it is the Muslims themselves who should be the most angry at these extremists and terrorists, since they are the ones being hit the most.

Look at these terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. The Government needs to crack down again.

My condolences for the loss of your compatriots brother. I had thought that violence in the region had subsided? I believe that unfortunately the civilian casualties from this heinous incident have gone up to 21? Could you tell us something about these terrorist groups?

 

[Peregrine]

Rest in peace ... What are they trying to achieve killing their own people apart from some Hans as well ?

Death to the terrorists.

As weird as it sounds the actual target of the terrorism are not the immediate victims rather the masses who will hear about the news of these attacks later on. You can say that the terrorists employ scare tactics.......with such sensless killings they force the people into thinking that the government machinery has failed in protecting their interests. ( I am glad that I took International terrorism as a course during my masters)

 

[Psyops]

Insulting religion? Is criticizing Islamic extremists and terrorists like ETIM the same as criticizing a religion?

Do you agree with the Chinese government restrictions on Islamic activities in Xinjiang?

I would ban all religions. Just look at Iraq, they kill each other just because they worship a subsection of the same religion and dividing the country. The Christians go around killing the Muslims. I'm an atheist. The spread of religion in China will ruin China and eventually divide China among religious groups. The CCP has done an appalling job controlling the spread of religion in China.

The west has been trying to spread Christianity (underground churches) like they spread it in South Korea to be sympathetic towards the western ideals. Some Muslim countries have not been criticising terrorist activities inside China like turkey.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I would ban all religions. Just look at Iraq, they kill each other just because they worship a subsection of the same religion and dividing the country. The Christians go around killing the Muslims. I'm an atheist. The spread of religion in China will ruin China and eventually divide China among religious groups. The CCP has done an appalling job controlling the spread if religion in China.

The west has been trying to spread Christianity (underground churches) like they spread it in South Korea to be sympathetic towards the western ideals. Some Muslim countries have not been criticising terrorist activities inside China like turkey.

Agreed. Christianity is more dangerous in my opinion, but I would prefer to keep them both out.

We have enough problems to deal with already.

 

[Armstrong]

Of course.

Which is why I said it is the Muslims themselves who should be the most angry at these extremists and terrorists, since they are the ones being hit the most.

Look at these terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. The Government needs to crack down again.

We do...its just that most of the time we believe the response to dealing with it should be much more different instead of one that may alienate the silent majority, give a narrative to the terrorist to exploit & allow them to dig their heels in a quasi people's war & that the causes of terrorism are a lot more complicated than a simple 'Must Destroy America' utterance !

P.S We still don't know whether it was the ETIM in this case or not & as I observed earlier on - Knives, a single firearm & axes don't really seem like the weapons of choice for Al-Qaeeda linked Militants ! Either our cooperation is working out better than we - on the outside - know or these weren't Muslim Extremist as opposed to being just disgruntled Uighurs that got caught by the security forces & decided to retaliate with knives, axes & a gun !

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

We do...its just that most of the time we believe the response to dealing with it should be much more different instead of one that may alienate the silent majority, give a narrative to the terrorist to exploit & allow them to dig their heels in a quasi people's war & that the causes of terrorism are a lot more complicated than a simple 'Must Destroy America' utterance !

P.S We still don't know whether it was the ETIM in this case or not & as I observed earlier on - Knives, a single firearm & axes don't really seem like the weapons of choice for Al-Qaeeda linked Militants ! Either our cooperation is working out better than we - on the outside - know or these weren't Muslim Extremist as opposed to being just disgruntled Uighurs that got caught by the security forces & decided to retaliate with knives, axes & a gun !

Fair enough.

What do you think would be a better method of destroying the terrorists in Xinjiang?

Government crackdowns create resentment, but what are the alternatives?

The Government needs to sweep them out within the next 5-10 years... or there is going to be a serious problem.

Same with the underground churches. They need to be swept away.

 

[Windjammer]

Likes of @Windjammer, and @Umair Nawaz are still not around so no such theories till now.

Old saying all Muslims are not terrorists but almost all terrorists are Muslims.

@SURYA-1

You alone are enough to generate all the nonsense.....lest some one like Sajjan Kumar has converted. !!

 

[Armstrong]

Fair enough.

What do you think would be a better method of destroying the terrorists in Xinjiang?

Government crackdowns create resentment, but what are the alternatives?

The Government needs to sweep them out within the next 5-10 years... or there is going to be a serious problem.

Same with the underground churches. They need to be swept away.

I don't know....I'm sure the relevant authorities would be exponentially more qualified in finding a solution !

I can tell you what I've heard our Military & Civilian Executives who have served in our trouble spots observe - That Goodwill amongst the People is the largest deterrent against Extremism ! I heard a Brigadier once comment that his Brigade had a larger budget than the entire education budget of Waziristan (North & South - a few million people) combined & yet the few Poly-Technic Institutes, Cadet Colleges, the development of a quasi-Highway in an otherwise cut-off area & Rehabilitation Centers that the Pakistan Army had helped established there left a more lasting impression on the local populace than any amount of Military Operations did.

I'm sure China's dynamics are unique & I'm sure there is plenty of Economic Opportunities there so its probably not deprivation & so one has to look whether there is some merit in their (Uighur's) perceived marginalization in an ethnic, linguistic or cultural sense or perhaps even a religious sense, at the hands of the majority ethnicity & dominant culture or narrative of China !

Perhaps a more inclusive approach that builds greater goodwill amongst the Uighur's would be the way to go....perhaps not ! I'm sure the Chinese Officials are more than competent to chart out a course of action to relieve these troubled spots of these 'troubles'.

But I'm also sure that goodwill & engaging people goes a long way & using force is not always productive - We've learned that the very hard way in Baluchistan & our other troubled areas !

 

[Huda]

Old saying all Muslims are not terrorists but almost all terrorists are Muslims.

Terrorists are present in every corner of world.

You should look the causes of terrorism in muslim countries.And u hindus are not dhood k dhule.

 

[SURYA-1]

@SURYA-1

You alone are enough to generate all the nonsense.....lest some one like Sajjan Kumar has converted. !!

I think you glossed over the link I posted earlier.
So once more for u, here is the link.
List of Terrorist Outfits Around The World

Terrorists are present in every corner of world.

You should look the causes of terrorism in muslim countries.And u hindus are not dhood k dhule.

You can also click on the link.

 

[Huda]

You can also click on the link.

Maybe @Windjammer has stamina to hit his head with wall but i know what u people (indians) are, and what sort of mentality you have.

 

[bangbros]

I would ban all religions. Just look at Iraq, they kill each other just because they worship a subsection of the same religion and dividing the country. The Christians go around killing the Muslims. I'm an atheist. The spread of religion in China will ruin China and eventually divide China among religious groups. The CCP has done an appalling job controlling the spread of religion in China.

The west has been trying to spread Christianity (underground churches) like they spread it in South Korea to be sympathetic towards the western ideals. Some Muslim countries have not been criticising terrorist activities inside China like turkey.

dude i dont believe if ur a christian u will be sympathetic to western power ,as a christian myself i do follow the words of our holy book it says the only living god is ur mother and to me both a mother who gives life and motherland who gives shelter,food are one and the same.u cant achieve peace if u stop respecting any one of them

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

dude i dont believe if ur a christian u will be sympathetic to western power ,as a christian myself i do follow the words of our holy book it says the only living god is ur mother and to me both a mother who gives life and motherland who gives shelter,food are one and the same.just my view

I'd just prefer to keep China either majority atheist or followers of native religions and philosophies.