Xiaomi's website overloaded by Brazilian buyers on first day of launch

[hans]

It is called business competition!

This is just another evidence that Xiaomi is a shame for China!


Xiaomi 's strategy/ Business Model in essence:

Ultra low price with high spec components = the darling of consumers

It is not wrong though. What is wrong, wrong and wrong is that Xiaomi doesn't achieve low price by drastically increase of technology and productivity, but by just cut the already razar-thin producer profit margin even thinner., because Xiaomi doesn't produce high tech patents, unlike Huawei.

This shameful business model is suicidal for local Chinese producers in the long run, forcing them having to work much harder, paying Chinese labours less, in order to satisfy overseas consumers who don't deserve the extra bloody efforts of Chinese hard-working labours at such ridiculously low prices that Xiaomi is marketing, while Ximomi's founder becoming a billionaire in the process.

There is no free lunch in this world, without extra input of higher productivity made possible by new patents and new high tech!

The pie is the same size under Xiaomi's biz model:

World consumers gain and happy.

Xiaomi's founders gain and happy.

High end components suppliers such as Japan and Taiwan's firms gain and happy.

who loss?

Chinese local assembly workers and the welfare of Chinese local suppliers.

In a sense, Xiaomi is siphoning the blood of local low end Chinese workers, in order to satisfy world consumers (with ultra low price), Japanese and Taiwanese high end component suppliers, and personal wealth of Xiaomi executives such as its CEO and Hugo Barra alike.

Xiaomi, hang your urgly and selfish head in shame! Utterly dispicble behaviour! This kind of behaviours would be easily called as high treason in another time.

Fcuk you, Xiaomi!

The advantage I see is the English and the population size.
English is widely spoken in India.
The huge population side could offer lower cost
but the government, education, base infrastructure are still behind..

Looks like ASEAN is going to pick up most of the manufacturing that leaves China. India has to be really attractive in something outside cheap labor.

 

[AndrewJin]

Looks like ASEAN is going to pick up most of the manufacturing that leaves China. India has to be really attractive in something outside cheap labor.

East Asia - ASEAN is an integrated business region, even there are so many political conflicts.
It doesn't matter, money is money.
I have visited a lot of countries in ASEAN, very prosperous and dynamic.

The advantage I see is the English and the population size.
English is widely spoken in India.

Workers don't speak English, which is spoken primarily among middle class.
IT outsourcing and call centre is about English, manufacturing is not.
Manufacturing is about infra, work ethics, productivity, export discipline, etc.

 

[IR-TR]

Lol I saw a comment by one Indian guy and he goes on to say, "one plus is probably not a chinese start up company, it's a US company." I was like, wtf where do people get these ridiculous information.
Yes, I agree with you. It's a branch out company from OPPO. Not sure if OPPO still have stakes in them.
The thing is OPPO needs better pricing strategy. One plus got it right.


Priced better than an iPhone? IPhone stands no where in pricing when it goes head to head with Xiaomi.

I am using a MI3. It's been almost a year now and no major fault at all with the phone. Just a few bugs with the MIUI. That isn't enough to deter one from buying an incredible value for money phone.
You could close your eyes and pick one up. I play wot blitz on this phone and performs flawlessly. Cheers!

Oh I know the Mi is a lot better prices. But I mean when it comes to Europe, who knows what the Telecom provider will charge for it. The Huaweis in the iPhone range are priced almost as much as an iPhone.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Looks like ASEAN is going to pick up most of the manufacturing that leaves China. India has to be really attractive in something outside cheap labor.

One thing that India has over everyone mentioned, is the huge captive domestic market!

It is pretty important to be close to your market to be responsive, and competitive. A reason why Xiaomi, as well as Huawei have opened development offices in Bangalore.

Also, the market is a big leverage, and Indians by just sheer quantity are far more skilled than ASEAN countries.

I have heard India is implementing policies to force manufacturers to manufacture at least a minimum within the country.

 

[AndrewJin]

Really?

Indians by just sheer quantity are far more skilled than ASEAN countries.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Really?

Yes. Indian percapita GDP is not too different from other countries like Indonesia, or Myanmar. Also, India has always got an ever increasing Western trained Intellectual class, that dwarfs the size of ASEAN countries combined. Of course we have more of the extreme poor ones as well.

But you can see this via GDP figures. India is at 2 trillion. Indonesia is 900 billion. Leave Singapore for it is an outlier in ASEAN, and the factories aren't any ways supposed to go there. All other countries have a GDP less than 300 billion.

Really?

You can also look at the talent India exports to other countries. It is after only China. These are very skilled people, who generally have contacts and a minimum attachment to their country. Of course all may not come back. But, simply due to the growth rate, many people do indeed come back bringing back much valuable knowledge. Also, the diaspora is also a captive hunting ground, where India can hunt for talent to bring back. Usually, non citizens, and first generation immigrants have a pretty decent chance of coming back if they get decent opportunity.

 

[AndrewJin]

Yes. Indian percapita GDP is not too different from other countries like Indonesia, or Myanmar. Also, India has always got an ever increasing Western trained Intellectual class, that dwarfs the size of ASEAN countries combined. Of course we have more of the extreme poor ones as well.

But you can see this via GDP figures. India is at 2 trillion. Indonesia is 900 billion. Leave Singapore for it is an outlier in ASEAN, and the factories aren't any ways supposed to go there. All other countries have a GDP less than 300 billion.



You can also look at the talent India exports to other countries. It is after only China. These are very skilled people, who generally have contacts and a minimum attachment to their country. Of course all may not come back. But, simply due to the growth rate, many people do indeed come back bringing back much valuable knowledge. Also, the diaspora is also a captive hunting ground, where India can hunt for talent to bring back. Usually, non citizens, and first generation immigrants have a pretty decent chance of coming back if they get decent opportunity.

The top is good, same with every country.
How about the average back home?
Overseas Tamil, Sikh call them Tamil Sikh, not Indian.
I don't know if they have attachment to India.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

The top is good, same with every country.
How about the average back home?
Overseas Tamil, Sikh call them Tamil Sikh, not Indian.
I don't know if they have attachment to India.

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Yes, more than 95% of all Sikhs and Tamils call India their home. Rather, when abroad this feeling of oneness increases. When in India, there are differences of some communities, but when abroad, all become largely Indians.

And I know all sorts of people. I am a normal North Indian. Two of my closest friends are Sikhs. Indian Army, the whole of it is almost single handedly dominated by Sikhs.

Are there some Sikhs who would like to have a Khalistan? Yes. But you are allowed to visit Punjab, and ask each and every person freely. The huge vast majority of Sikhs are total Indians. Our erstwhile Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was also a Sikh.

 

[AndrewJin]

95% of all Sikhs and Tamils

Ask Tamils in Southeast Asia.

95% of all Sikhs and Tamils

Any datas about overseas Tamils and Sikhs?

 

[cirr]

Huawei sells 9 million Honor 7s in China in just one week

by Gordon Hunt

1 HOUR AGO

Ahead of its entrance into the European market later this year, Huawei has announced it has received nine million pre-orders of its new Honor 7 smartphone, one week after the launch.

Yesterday’s flash sale saw 200,000 units sell out in just two minutes, which is a bit nuts. The units were of varying configurations and colours, with Huawei shifting 1,667 handsets a second (!).

Now the company has announced its massive pre-order numbers, with total devices sold in 2015 so far already the equal to the total numbers last year.

“We are very excited about this regional success and believe that Honor 7 will see a great response from users in Europe too, later this year,” said Honor’s Frank Yao in a statement.

“As a new flagship product of the Honor product family, Honor 7 is bringing further innovation at an affordable price. Feedback from the community is very positive, which reaffirms our commitment to our customers and our focus to deliver products that always exceed users’ expectations.”

The new phone has a 5.2in 1080p display and is powered by a 64-bit octa-core Kirin 930 SoC. It has 3GB of RAM, comes with 64gb of internal storage and has a 21mpx (rear) and 8mpx (front) camera.

There’s another flash sale scheduled for July 14th, with Huawei’s European adventure beginning later this year.

Main image via GSMArena.com

Huawei sells 9 million Honor 7s in China in just one week

 

[AndrewJin]

Huawei sells 9 million Honor 7s in China in just one week

 

[mike2000 is back]

This is just another evidence that Xiaomi is a shame for China!


Xiaomi 's strategy/ Business Model in essence:

Ultra low price with high spec components = the darling of consumers

It is not wrong though. What is wrong, wrong and wrong is that Xiaomi doesn't achieve low price by drastically increase of technology and productivity, but by just cut the already razar-thin producer profit margin even thinner., because Xiaomi doesn't produce high tech patents, unlike Huawei.

This shameful business model is suicidal for local Chinese producers in the long run, forcing them having to work much harder, paying Chinese labours less, in order to satisfy overseas consumers who don't deserve the extra bloody efforts of Chinese hard-working labours at such ridiculously low prices that Xiaomi is marketing, while Ximomi's founder becoming a billionaire in the process.

There is no free lunch in this world, without extra input of higher productivity made possible by new patents and new high tech!

The pie is the same size under Xiaomi's biz model:

World consumers gain and happy.

Xiaomi's founders gain and happy.

High end components suppliers such as Japan and Taiwan's firms gain and happy.

who loss?

Chinese local assembly workers and the welfare of Chinese local suppliers.

In a sense, Xiaomi is siphoning the blood of local low end Chinese workers, in order to satisfy world consumers (with ultra low price), Japanese and Taiwanese high end component suppliers, and personal wealth of Xiaomi executives such as its CEO and Hugo Barra alike.

Xiaomi, hang your urgly and selfish head in shame! Utterly dispicble behaviour! This kind of behaviours would be easily called as high treason in another time.

Fcuk you, Xiaomi!

I agree with you completely, this is one fact many people dont understand. Xiaomis model is the best thing that could ever happen to high end japanese, S.korean and taiwanese suppliers, plus xiaomis CEOs obviously.

I said similar thing before. Xiaomi is simply a hype, and its only very good in marketing/creating hype around its products. It isnt any different from a smart phone assembler like micromax, yota phone, etc lol. As it doesnt hold much patents, neither does it invest significantly in R&Dwhich i cant blame it since it doesnt have any profit at all judging by the fact that it seeks to compete only on price thereby having a very small insignificant margin.

The only company i respect in this field is huawei and to some extent lenovo/ZTE, since they hold real latents and gain alot from producing critical parts of their own products which gives them more bang for their bucks. Huawei alone spends billions of dollars each year on R&D in fact they alone spend more than some countries.lol. Not because they like, but because they know thats the best way to remain competitive in this ever changing world and stay ahead of the crowd with time. Else they will decline and be forgotten with time like.others beforw them im afraid this fate awaits xiaomi when the hype dies off and if it doesnt invest heavilly in R&D .

 

[IND151]

Seems Xiomi phones are very popular in Brazil.

 

[cirr]

I agree with you completely, this is one fact many people dont understand. Xiaomis model is the best thing that could ever happen to high end japanese, S.korean and taiwanese suppliers, plus xiaomis CEOs obviously.

I said similar thing before. Xiaomi is simply a hype, and its only very good in marketing/creating hype around its products. It isnt any different from a smart phone assembler like micromax, yota phone, etc lol. As it doesnt hold much patents, neither does it invest significantly in R&Dwhich i cant blame it since it doesnt have any profit at all judging by the fact that it seeks to compete only on price thereby having a very small insignificant margin.

The only company i respect in this field is huawei and to some extent lenovo/ZTE, since they hold real latents and gain alot from producing critical parts of their own products which gives them more bang for their bucks. Huawei alone spends billions of dollars each year on R&D in fact they alone spend more than some countries.lol. Not because they like, but because they know thats the best way to remain competitive in this ever changing world and stay ahead of the crowd with time. Else they will decline and be forgotten with time like.others beforw them im afraid this fate awaits xiaomi when the hype dies off and if it doesnt invest heavilly in R&D .

What high-end Japanese and Taiwanese suppliers?

If you mean Sony and HTC, they are as good as dead.

HTC's stock prices, for example, have crashed from over NT1300 to sub NT70.

Xiaomi, valued at some 45 billion US dollars, is worth more than Sony and HTC combined. And Sony does a lot of other businesses apart from smartphones.

Don't tell me that the investors in Xiaomi are totally and utterly off the mark.

It is entirely possible, indeed probable, that Huawei might sell 20 million Honor 7s this year.

The Honor series, the Mate series and the P series, Huawei Consumer seems firing on all barrels.

 

[AndrewJin]

It is entirely possible, indeed probable, that Huawei might sell 20 million Honor 7s this year.

The Honor series, the Mate series and the P series, Huawei Consumer seems firing on all barrels.

Which series is the best?