Xi Jinping Could Make the Same Mistakes as Kaiser Wilhelm II

[Zsari]

Israel is already an enemy of China. All of China's enemies have "remarkably" good relations with Israel. This is not a coincidence. Israel was the enemy all along. They are behind the scenes manipulating the puppets. Striking directly at Israel is to take down the puppeteer and all the puppets stop moving.

The Gulf states are pretty much all enemies of each other with a very complex web. China maintains a friendly relationship with most if not all parties, Iran, Saudi, Israeli etc, by not sticking its nose into other's business. That's how diplomacy should be conducted. With or without Israel, the US hostility against China would not go away as it is the fundamental interest of the US to defend its global hegemony. I would actually say the reverse is true where without a dominant US, Israel's survival would be in jeopardy.

 

[Zsari]

That's not the point, the point is that even US think that chinese nukes are likely going to be used on China's immediate neighbors. Considering that's also where the US bases are, where their armed forces are stationed at & as possible launch site for nuclear strike.

Who throws ICBM at neighbors? China has vast number of short and medium ranged ballistic missile for those, some are nuclear tipped, but spent nukes there would be stupid since nuclear dust will be blown back to China.

 

[Feng Leng]

I dunno blowing up military bases & potential invasion point seems to be in the interest of china. Beside China's behavior lately just push India & indonesia to the US camp so I dunno 50-50 chances of china using their nukes on her neighbor.

That's sounds fair.

You are right. Now that Indonesia is an enemy, the most likely target for our preemptive nuclear strike is Jakarta. Just three DF-25 with 8x 250 kT will trigger a firestorm that will burn everybody within a 200 km radius zone into ashes. Your country is back to primitive cavemen eating dead animals killed with spears.

By the way we have 1000+ nuclear warheads and we only need two dozen to wipe Jakarta off the wipe.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Who throws ICBM at neighbors? China has vast number of short and medium ranged ballistic missile for those, some are nuclear tipped, but spent nukes there would be stupid since nuclear dust will be blown back to China.

Never underestimate the politburo stupidity.

Using nukes are also the last, last resort & by then if China is so desperate to use nukes death by fallout ain't too horrific.

 

[Zsari]

Never underestimate the politburo stupidity.

Using nukes are also the last, last resort & by then if China is so desperate to use nukes death by fallout ain't too horrific.

Desperate against S.Korea and Japan? What are you smoking.
BTW, in absolute desperation, nukes will still be thrown at the US instead as the US retaliation will blow up the entire planet. That's how MAD works.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Desperate against S.Korea and Japan? What are you smoking.

he thinks that a few hundred Korean or Japanese marines can defeat the entire PLA... because that's about what their power projection can handle.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

he thinks that a few hundred Korean or Japanese marines can defeat the entire PLA... because that's about what their power projection can handle.

It seems all chinese have problems reading or remembering.

SK & Japan hold American bases & will be a major US ally if war breaks out. That seems to be a good enough reason for the communist to attack 1st.

 

[Zsari]

You are right. Now that Indonesia is an enemy, the most likely target for our preemptive nuclear strike is Jakarta. Just three DF-25 with 8x 250 kT will trigger a firestorm that will burn everybody within a 200 km radius zone into ashes. Your country is back to primitive cavemen eating dead animals killed with spears.

By the way we have 1000+ nuclear warheads and we only need two dozen to wipe Jakarta off the wipe.

Blah, why would Indonesia be an enemy? Let them blown off some steams. Their government still has a domestic audience to satisfy. It's OK to disagree in international affairs. Indonesia has no territorial conflict with China, only dispute in EEZ which is really minor as far as disputes go.
Looking at geopolitical picture, Indonesia is a counter weight to Australia as both are regional powers seeking influence in the same neighborhood. Use that to your advantage instead of making enemies needlessly.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

It seems all chinese have problems reading or remembering.

SK & Japan hold American bases & will be a major US ally if war breaks out. That seems to be a good enough reason for the communist to attack 1st.

why would peripheral allies be targetted instead of the direct threat at that point?

if state sovereignty is threatened its no longer about bases. China is not going to trade cities for bases, it is going to trade cities for cities. That is declared doctrine, it is what procurement patterns state, and it is what the US acknowledges.

 

[Zsari]

It seems all chinese have problems reading or remembering.

SK & Japan hold American bases & will be a major US ally if war breaks out. That seems to be a good enough reason for the communist to attack 1st.

Either wants to be a proxy to war, and to uses these bases to attack China requires their consent. Remember S.Korea would not even agree to launching attack against N.Korea.
Besides both are too close to China that conventional attack would neutralize these bases in short order.
And as I've already said, last resort means throwing all nukes against the US, actually against both US and Russia to trigger an Armageddon. That's the endgame scenario in both Russia and US strategic planning as well. Read it up.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

How many of those ICBM have nuclear tip?

& Then come back to me.

The point of nukes is to always to use it on your immediate neighbor if war started.

To this the US have the advantages. Because it's right next door to china & they can park their nuclear arsenal anywhere in the region.

So how many do you reckon China has?
USA has the advantage?

So what advantage do you think USA has when China can tracked each and everyone of its SSBN in East China Sea or South China Sea today?

Come back to me when you have the answer?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

why would peripheral allies be targetted instead of the direct threat at that point?

if state sovereignty is threatened its no longer about bases. China is not going to trade cities for bases, it is going to trade cities for cities. That is declared doctrine, it is what procurement patterns state, and it is what the US acknowledges.

US bases are US soils & those countries will turn into direct one the moment china launch it first SBM.

While you guys trade cities. US bases in the region would already pummeled most Chinese cities using Trident & other nuclear cruise missiles. Making what ever gain you got absolutely pointless if it hit any city on America the retaliations will be tenfold & that is assuming it can reach mainland US.

STRATCOM knows that china would be most likely arming it's SRBM to target US allies in the region.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

US bases are US soils & those countries will turn into direct one the moment china launch it first SBM.

While you guys trade cities. US bases in the region would already pummeled most Chinese cities using Trident & other nuclear cruise missiles. Making what ever gain you got absolutely pointless if it hit any city on America the retaliations will be tenfold & that is assuming it can reach mainland US.

STRATCOM knows that china would be most likely arming it's SRBM to target US allies in the region.

Trident is not a cruise missile. It is an SLBM. It does not need a base. Zero credibility.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

It seems all chinese have problems reading or remembering.

SK & Japan hold American bases & will be a major US ally if war breaks out. That seems to be a good enough reason for the communist to attack 1st.

They would be major US allies?
I don't know about that?
Does any one of them allow US military to store nuclear warheads in their countries?

 

[Feng Leng]

US bases are US soils & those countries will turn into direct one the moment china launch it first SBM.

While you guys trade cities. US bases in the region would already pummeled most Chinese cities using Trident & other nuclear cruise missiles. Making what ever gain you got absolutely pointless if it hit any city on America the retaliations will be tenfold & that is assuming it can reach mainland US.

STRATCOM knows that china would be most likely arming it's SRBM to target US allies in the region.

Don't worry. With 1000+ nuclear warheads, the major population centers of all our enemies including Jakarta will be wiped clean first.