Would Iraq want Pakistan to join anti IS operations?

[Aepsilons]

The threat of IS is an ideological one and it can only be hammered if they are defeated on the battlefield. This ideology also harms Pakistan as according to Pakistani Intelligence sources, we are a 'prime target' for this terrorist movement.

Pakistan has helped Iraq and Syria in the past by dispatching fighter pilots. The defense of Damascus was planned by none other than the Sq Ldr MM ALAM, the greatest Pakistani fighter ace during the Arab Israeli war.

Today we continue to help Iraq by servicing its arms requirements, broad training program including Spec Ops and diplomacy. I was wondering what would be Iraqi opinion if Pakistan dispatched some contribution i.e Counter insurgency experts from our rather experianced intel services, ISR or even some strike assets to Iraq for fighting IS?

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Yes, Pakistan should consider sending a force to help combat the threat of ISIS. By striking ISIS now, it becomes weaker and will reduce the threat of ISIS further embattling the Taliban that continues to be a threat to Pakistan and the Pakistani people. I support Pakistan's intervention !

If Pakistanis have really good expertise as being claimed by the OP, why haven't they been able to control terrorism in their own country. Hence OP is wrong.

Pakistan is actually crushing them through its surgical strikes and its offensive campaign into the Khyber. Thousands of terrorists have been annihilated and hundreds of Pakistan's young soldiers have given their lives for the stability of their nation. Please do not let political bias -- blind you of Pakistan Army's successes. As we speak, Taliban and other terror cells in the Northwest are being pulverized into submission.

There is no army in the world that is more experienced in combating terrorists than the Pakistan Army. And their intervention in the Levant would prove indispensable.

 

[Kompromat]

If Pakistanis have really good expertise as being claimed by the OP, why haven't they been able to control terrorism in their own country. Hence OP is wrong.

2600 dead Talidogs in last 7 months beg to differ.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

2600 dead Talidogs in last 7 months beg to differ.

2600 dead human beings + your civilians + your soldiers

Your country is in state of war. This is not called containment of terrorist threat. Why not create some peace in Pakistan first.

 

[Aepsilons]

Pakistan could help if there are TTP and IS cross-links and specific info with our intel.
It was rumoured that at abt a thousand TTP fighters had joined IS in Iraq, they might return to this region and pose a threat.

Sir,

In order for Pakistan to fully eradicate elements in her frontier, it requires the Pakistan Armed Forces (Army and Air Force is pivotal here) to send an expedtionary force to help the government in Iraq and perhaps even Jordan -- where the threat of ISIS growth is real. Remember that many of the extremist forces in Pakistan's frontier are being influenced by radical forces in the Middle East. Stabilizing Iraq can be performed by aiding in Human Resources projects, training of soldiers to deal with insurgency the proper way (Pakistan Army does so through effective use of hammer and anvil tactic).

Besides, I think that Pakistan is indispensable because she is a Muslim nation and her soldiers are Muslim, thus will be widely accepted and will be seen with greater light than say non-muslim soldiers intervening. Note that the intervention of American, Polish, Georgian, British soldiers in Iraq some decades prior --- didn't really have an 'stabilizing' effect on the region as expected. I believe that Pakistan, as Sunni-majority nation, Muslim nation, and with years of experience in anti-insurgency operations can be effective here.

By cutting the head of the snake, you solve the issue. Securing and stabilizing the Levant will help stabilize the frontier in Pakistan. Remember, in order to treat a septic infection, it is necessary to debride necrotic tissue. Treating with IV antibiotics can only do so much. ISIS is that necrotic tissue.

 

[Kompromat]

Yes, Pakistan should consider sending a force to help combat the threat of ISIS. By striking ISIS now, it becomes weaker and will reduce the threat of ISIS further embattling the Taliban that continues to be a threat to Pakistan and the Pakistani people. I support Pakistan's intervention !



Pakistan is actually crushing them through its surgical strikes and its offensive campaign into the Khyber. Thousands of terrorists have been annihilated and hundreds of Pakistan's young soldiers have given their lives for the stability of their nation. Please do not let political bias -- blind you of Pakistan Army's successes. As we speak, Taliban and other terror cells in the Northwest are being pulverized into submission.

There is no army in the world that is more experienced in combating terrorists than the Pakistan Army. And their intervention in the Levant would prove indispensable.

Currently our support to Iraq is limited to training their officers, pilots and Spec Ops. We've also sold military hardware to Iraq including armored vehicles and their order for training aircrafts and small arms is underway.

Pakistan has highly skilled human resource in CT. One example is the fact that UAE's Intel service is headed by the former DG ISI, Lt Gen (R) Ahmed Shuja Pasha. Iraq should be helped by dispatching battlemasters from the operation Rah-e-Rast and Rah-e-Nijat. They can help Iraqis devise their CT strategy. Dispatching soldiers or fighter jets for helping Iraqi forces may not be possible due to certain constraints Pakistan has highly skilled human resource in CT. One example is the fact that UAE's Intel service is headed by the former DG ISI, Lt Gen (R) Ahmed Shuja Pasha. Iraq should be helped by dispatching battlemasters from the operation Rah-e-Rast and Rah-e-Nijat. They can help Iraqis devise their CT strategy. Dispatching soldiers or fighter jets for helping Iraqi forces may not be possible due to certain constraints Pakistan has highly skilled human resource in CT. One example is the fact that UAE's Intel service is headed by the former DG ISI, Lt Gen (R) Ahmed Shuja Pasha. Iraq should be helped by dispatching battlemasters from the operation Rah-e-Rast and Rah-e-Nijat. They can help Iraqis devise their CT strategy. Dispatching soldiers or fighter jets for helping Iraqi forces may not be possible due to certain constraints Pakistan has highly skilled human resource in CT. One example is the fact that UAE's Intel service is headed by the former DG ISI, Lt Gen (R) Ahmed Shuja Pasha. Iraq should be helped by dispatching battlemasters from the operation Rah-e-Rast and Rah-e-Nijat. They can help Iraqis devise their CT strategy. Dispatching soldiers or fighter jets for helping Iraqi forces may not be possible due to certain constraints we face.

 

[Aepsilons]

2600 dead human beings + your civilians + your soldiers

Your country is in state of war. This is not called containment of terrorist threat. Why not create some peace in Pakistan first.

Are you deficient in strategy? Are you also blind to the terrorist organizations in India? You have hundreds of separatists organizations ranging from areas in Kashmir, in Nagaland, in the Northeast, as well as in other areas of the country. Can we not also say that India , especially in its frontier territories (union territories) is in a state of war? Then why is the pot calling the kettle black?

Do you utterly ignore the fact that what Pakistan is doing in its restive territories --- is part of the national strategy of stabilizing the country ? Have you seen the growth in Gwadar Port? In Karachi ? In Lahore ? In Islamabad ? Pakistan's growth and stability -- a nation of close to 200 million -- requires her to cauterize any regions that are against Pakistan's Government and the rule of law.

The terrorist cells in Pakistan must never be given mercy and eradicated --- just as the terrorist cells in India's frontier and union territories should be eradicated. And since Pakistan shares border with Iran -- and closer to the restive regions of the middle east, it is necessary for Pakistan to address these strategic threats and priorities.

Please do not think and talk with such splitting lens of black and white. There are close to 200 million Pakistanis and just like any Indian, Japanese, Chinese, or American, --- they want peace and stability. Terrorism is a global threat and is not prejudiced only for one country.

 

[Hurter]

2600 dead human beings + your civilians + your soldiers

Your country is in state of war. This is not called containment of terrorist threat. Why not create some peace in Pakistan first.

Peace cannot be created without defeating terrorism.. Doodh peetay bachay nai ho tum log.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

Are you deficient in strategy? Are you also blind to the terrorist organizations in India? You have hundreds of separatists organizations ranging from areas in Kashmir, in Nagaland, in the Northeast, as well as in other areas of the country. Can we not also say that India , especially in its frontier territories (union territories) is in a state of war? Then why is the pot calling the kettle black?

Do you utterly ignore the fact that what Pakistan is doing in its restive territories --- is part of the national strategy of stabilizing the country ? Have you seen the growth in Gwadar Port? In Karachi ? In Lahore ? In Islamabad ? Pakistan's growth and stability -- a nation of close to 200 million -- requires her to cauterize any regions that are against Pakistan's Government and the rule of law.

The terrorist cells in Pakistan must never be given mercy and eradicate --- just as the terrorist cells in India's frontier and union territories should be eradicated. And since Pakistan shares border with Iran -- and closer to the restive regions of the middle east, it is necessary for Pakistan to address these strategic threats and priorities.

Please do not think and talk with such splitting lens of black and white. There are close to 200 million Pakistanis and just like any Indian, Japanese, Chinese, or American, --- they want peace and stability. Terrorism is a global threat and is not prejudiced only for one country.

It is you who is an blind. Thats why I ignored your post the first time. All those terrorist groups you talked about collectively don't match up to the violence done by TTP alone. So any comparison is stupid.

I don't need to see any fake growth when I have your hard economic data available. I know very exactly the "growth" that is taking place in Pakistan. Look at your GDP growth rate, your stock market capitalization, your bond rating, your forex levels, your per capita GDP, and then come back.

Rest of the post is BS. First learn to argue properly.

 

[Aepsilons]

It is you who is an blind. Thats why I ignored your post the first time. All those terrorist groups you talked about collectively don't match up to the violence done by TTP alone. So any comparison is stupid.

I don't need to see any fake growth when I have your hard economic data available. I know very exactly the "growth" that is taking place in Pakistan. Look at your GDP growth rate, your stock market capitalization, your bond rating, your forex levels, your per capita GDP, and then come back.

Rest of the post is BS. First learn to argue properly.

Japan's economy and growth is not even part of the subject matter, you impudent troll. The rest of your drivel is not even part of the discussion. It is you who needs to learn proper debate procedures.

 

[Hurter]

Iraq might in future.. But Pakistan should clean its internal mess which was created by external powers. Moreover, Pakistan cannot engage its enemy from all the sides especially when the army is being called to control the internal security of the country. ISIS exists far away from Pakistan at the moment. But their supporters in Pakistan should be crushed without thinking for a minute.

 

[Aepsilons]

Iraq might in future.. But Pakistan should clean its internal mess which was created by external powers. Moreover, Pakistan cannot engage its enemy from all the sides especially when the army is being called to control the internal security of the country. ISIS exists far away from Pakistan at the moment. But their supporters in Pakistan should be crushed without thinking for a minute.

If not direct military support, at least an expeditionary medical peace-keeping force should be sent, provided they be given necessary protection, of course. Pakistan has sent indispensable peace keeping forces in war torn regions --- be it in Somalia, in the Sudan, in the Balkans -- which gives them the edge.

 

[Hurter]

If not direct military support, at least an expeditionary medical peace-keeping force should be sent, provided they be given necessary protection, of course. Pakistan has sent indispensable peace keeping forces in war torn regions --- be it in Somalia, in the Sudan, in the Balkans -- which gives them the edge.

Agree... But Peace keeping force will not work there as everyone knows that those 2 countries have turned into butcher states. Only butchers can be sent there to rip them off.

 

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They will return conscription

Abadi's advisor calls Ministry of Defense to prepare for re-compulsory service in Iraq - Iraqi News

 

[Aepsilons]

Agree... But Peace keeping force will not work there as everyone knows that those 2 countries have turned into butcher states. Only butchers can be sent there to rip them off.

It may not be enough, but at least, someone is doing the right thing. And I would like to clarify to readers here one thing --- that Pakistan is doing a lot in regards to contributing soldiers for securing war torn regions in the world. Unbeknownst to many is the fact that Pakistan sends over 8,000 of her soldiers for UN-peace-keeping missions; that number is the 2nd highest in any UN member state. So for those who say Pakistan doesn't contribute to global peace -- that is utterly wrong.

In fact many of us , foreign citizens, should thank the Pakistan Armed Forces for sending her young men and women to help stabilize the world.

Just some facts for all those who are interested , most especially for detractors:

8, 216 soldiers...!​

 

[Hurter]

It may not be enough, but at least, someone is doing the right thing. And I would like to clarify to readers here one thing --- that Pakistan is doing a lot in regards to contributing soldiers for securing war torn regions in the world. Unbeknownst to many is the fact that Pakistan sends over 8,000 of her soldiers for UN-peace-keeping missions; that number is the 2nd highest in any UN member state. So for those who say Pakistan doesn't contribute to global peace -- that is utterly wrong.

In fact many of us , foreign citizens, should thank the Pakistan Armed Forces for sending her young men and women to help stabilize the world.

Just some facts for all those who are interested , most especially for detractors:

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8, 216 soldiers...!​

At least some Non-Pakistani acknowledges the efforts done by Pakistani Armed Forces.. Appreciate this.