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By Akbar Ganji
Special to CNN


(CNN) -- This week world leaders will gather in New York for the annual meeting of the U.N. General Assembly. While Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be among them, Iranians reject his claim to leadership. They strongly oppose any meeting or recognition of Ahmadinejad, especially by President Obama.

The pro-democracy movement in Iran today unanimously believes that he enjoys his current position because he was "reappointed" president after stealing several million votes in June 12 presidential election.

Popular protests against this state of affairs have been met with bullets from the Iranian regime. Thousands were arrested and dozens were killed. Opposition supporters have been tortured in jail and credible reports of rape have surfaced.

In recent years the Western media has not focused on the systematic human rights violations in Iran but rather on Iran's nuclear ambitions and Ahmadinejad's rhetoric toward Israel and the Nazi Holocaust. Iranians are deeply upset by the general inattentiveness of the media and world leaders to their political protests.

If you listen to the democratic voices of Iranians and leaders of Iran's Green Movement there is a unanimous view that Ahmadinejad's policies have severely undermined Iranian national interests and he has inadvertently better served the interests of Israel.

Although the regime has been able to reassert control due to severe repression recent events have led to important social transformations in Iran. Today there are many prominent names publicly opposing the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei. Many open letters have been circulated that for the first time directly criticize him. U.S. policy under Obama has also played a constructive role. The absence of military threats and new economic sanctions has given democracy activists more room to maneuver, posing new challenges to the regime.

In order to deal with this internal crisis Khamenei's only option is to shift attention to Iran's relationship with the outside world -- the United States in particular. By increasing verbal attacks on the West and exacerbating regional conflicts he hopes to draw the attention of both Iranians and the world away from the systematic violations of human rights in Iran.

Iran's nuclear ambitions should not be considered the primary weak point for the regime. To a limited extent Khamenei and his disciples can manipulate the nationalist sentiment of Iranians around this issue.

The Achilles heel for the regime today is the widespread and systematic violations of human rights against it own people. Greater exposure and scrutiny of this key issue will generate more popular discontent toward the leaders of Iran. Khamenei cannot maintain regime loyalty or acquiescence in the face of these massive human rights violations. It is precisely these organized repressive measures that the International Criminal Court, in other contexts, has called "crimes against humanity."

Although Iran, like the United States and Israel, are not members of the ICC, charges can be brought against the Iranian regime via the U.N. Security Council -- similar to the process that led to the arrest warrant for Omar Al Bashir, the leader of Sudan. We in the Iranian human rights movement can document, with certification from a team of international lawyers, that leaders of the Iranian regime are guilty of crimes against humanity under Article 7 of the Rome Statute that established the ICC.

Today, the people of Iran are in need of the moral and spiritual support from people around the world. In the current circumstances the most important form of support would be to assist with the campaign of charging the leaders of Iran with "crimes against humanity" and to help disseminate this initiative so that it becomes the main avenue of engagement with Iran by the international community.

We are seeking to place this issue at the top of the international agenda so that leaders of the Iranian regime will think twice before traveling abroad as well as to make it morally unacceptable for leaders of democratic countries to extend a hand to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

This article was translated by Nader Hashemi, Assistant Professor of Middle East and Islamic Politics at the Josef Korbel School of International Studies, University of Denver.
 
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World's concept of Iranian leadership is totally misplaced.. because President in Iran is merely a rubber stamp or PR face, where as all the powers lies with Supreme leader.
What we always ignore is Iran's inqlabi history which gave birth to Supreme leader and which has foreign roots.

The pro-democracy movement in Iran today unanimously believes that he enjoys his current position because he was "reappointed" president after stealing several million votes in June 12 presidential election.

Off course many thousands did not voted for President Ahmedi Nejad but what parameters define opposing forces more democratic?
 
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It's hard to know what to believe in Iran.

Certainly the Western media has no credibility in the matter; plus all those interviews/tweets in English and demonstrators holding signs in English didn't exactly inspire confidence in the Western reporting.

Is this a bonafide, widespread revolution, or just a disgruntled, vocal, tech-savvy, pro-Western, urban minority of troublemakers?

The split amongst the ayatollahs and the Rafsanjani/Ahmedinijad rivalry is also muddying the waters.
 
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verbal attacks on the West and exacerbating regional conflicts

Iran welcomes US shelving of missile shield

Today, the people of Iran are in need of the moral and spiritual support from people around the world.
So are the people of Pakistan but world's attitude toward Pakistan is not reflected in same tone.... at least this is not what we see from the statements and acts of head of western states!
Why Iranians should have precedence over Pakistanis or any other countries????
Elections have been rigged in Kashmir over and again but UN is not bothered....

I think Pakistan has got lot of its own problems and need not to spend any resource or single penny on Iran's domestic issues....... we are already being asked too much in WOT and we are helping US in this regard from our pockets and lives and this should be thanked first by the world in its true spirit.
 
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It's hard to know what to believe in Iran.

Certainly the Western media has no credibility in the matter; plus all those interviews/tweets in English and demonstrators holding signs in English didn't exactly inspire confidence in the Western reporting.

Is this a bonafide, widespread revolution, or just a disgruntled, vocal, tech-savvy, pro-Western, urban minority of troublemakers?

The split amongst the ayatollahs and the Rafsanjani/Ahmedinijad rivalry is also muddying the waters.

Developero.. i can tell you and you can trust my words.
It will be wrong to depict Iran's recent protests as movement of democracy.... it is more of a movement to have more liberty!
Since revolution majority of people are living under rules defined by Supreme council, where as injustice is being widely practiced contrary to the teaching of Islamic idealism.... which in reality is where supreme council draws its powers.
for example govt. loayls have preference in govt. jobs mainly like police and army. almost zero civil rights....... religous police can just break in to your house without warrants (although warrants is no problem for religous police).
Liberals are totally isolated by the state....and are not allowed any share in the state affairs.
in short liberals has been victimised for years and when i say liberals this means all of Tehran. Tehran alone can dominate the world opinion irrespective to the numbers... so democracy is not in the equation and neither it was in equation at any past revolutions.
When we look at the numbers.. it was quite close contest but still if we talk democrazy than 49% is a minority and have no rights.
Tehran is a power house ..... it has potential to dictate and build opinion. The movement failed because foreign interference was not amountful...as was in case of Pakistan....where chartered flights can land against state rules and people fly in and out of the country as kings.
Number 2 is the geography of Iran...non of its neighbours have any ill wishes against it or either finances to support any movement. Western states have interest but they cannot support the movement to bring about decisive result without involving neighbouring states.
 
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and pray why should we listen to the opinions of a pro US news network?

The US should leave Iranians alone. It is after all because of the US that there is no democracy in Iran in the first place.
 
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When we look at the numbers.. it was quite close contest but still if we talk democrazy than 49% is a minority and have no rights.

Doesn't Iran have a representative parliament? So 49% can force some compromise on laws.
 
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Doesn't Iran have a representative parliament? So 49% can force some compromise on laws.

The Original post here, from one of our Bros from the land of "Orange County" and now posts with orientation like this ^ .

As far as legitimacy of the Iranian Govt. is concerned, though as powerful as the Capitol Hill is, BUT the Govt. of Iran is elected and legitimized not by them but by the Iranian people, YET.

And for the percentages, as I said already, Have you guys forgotten Dubya's (aka Bush) Orange County Debacle!!!. How close was that? Can you then say he had no right to be the President?


Should we shun the Presidents at Capitol Hill like this as well!!!


The simple truth is, so strong is their devotion, willingly or un willingly, knowingly or un knowingly, to the Star of David's cause, that, even events like the UNGA; United Nations General Assembly attendance by the Iranian President, gives them indigestion.


Isnt attending that UNGA his democratic right?


Such talk and words are pure and simple bias, talking.
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Doesn't Iran have a representative parliament? So 49% can force some compromise on laws.

Iran has Presidential system where President form his cabinete but the supreme council is a religous body which superceds all rules and authorities.
You can imagine....... military directly report to supreme leader and President have no control or sway over military what so ever.
Still in reference to iran, they aspire to have change and it is wrong to translate or believe it as democracy because their is no way to acertain who holds the majority votes.

Still the sentence which you quoted was not in strictly from Iranian system of govt. but in general the best form of democrazy is where 51% majority form govt. like US. In countries like Pakistan where we have parliamentarian system is even worst. here even a party with 5% representation can form govt. by virtue of horse trading in assemblies (where elected members are corrupted or forced to swap loyalties) and party with 95% representation can go to hell.
Western media respect such govt. more than their actuall deliverence on democratic norms. and ignore the fact that in recent Presidential elections payment of horses was released after they submit vedio proff of their vote casting. That's why i say what is criticized by western media is far more democratic in its spirit than what they support rather i must say facilitate by demonizing far more democrat in favor of a corrupt dictator.
 
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The Original post here, from one of our Bros from the land of "Orange County" and now posts with orientation like this ^ .​


Please.. elaborate? what do u know about me? Only than i will be able to clarify my self more properly!

Isnt attending that UNGA his democratic right?
It is as much his right as much is of Zardari but who says UN is democratic body?

Such talk and words are pure and simple bias, talking.
What is bias talking? All i'm trying to do is share my knowledge with all sincierity.
 
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^@ BATMAN:

I was actually replying to Thomas's post not yours.


Please.. elaborate?

Orange County is the county where bush won the whole election by a margin of a few hundred votes. Imagine, a country of 300 million people, and their fates decided in such a way! That is why many accused him of Rigging and many demanded his resignation, others didnt want to accept him as President. This is just like what Thomas is implying for Nejad.



What is bias talking?

The statement to shun Nejad at the UNGA
 
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The Original post here, from one of our Bros from the land of "Orange County" and now posts with orientation like this ^ .

As far as legitimacy of the Iranian Govt. is concerned, though as powerful as the Capitol Hill is, BUT the Govt. of Iran is elected and legitimized not by them but by the Iranian people, YET.

And for the percentages, as I said already, Have you guys forgotten Dubya's (aka Bush) Orange County Debacle!!!. How close was that? Can you then say he had no right to be the President?


Should we shun the Presidents at Capitol Hill like this as well!!!


The simple truth is, so strong is their devotion, willingly or un willingly, knowingly or un knowingly, to the Star of David's cause, that, even events like the UNGA; United Nations General Assembly attendance by the Iranian President, gives them indigestion.


Isnt attending that UNGA his democratic right?


Such talk and words are pure and simple bias, talking.
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The article is not American in origin. Though CNN printed it. The article was a commentary by Akbar Ganji who is a leading Iranian dissident and pro-democracy activist. He served a six-year sentence in Tehran's Evin prison for his reporting on human rights abuses in Iran. The London-based human rights organization, Article 19, has described Ganji as the "Iranian Vaclav Havel" and he has received more than a dozen human rights, press freedom and pro-democracy awards. He is the author of "The Road to Democracy in Iran"
 
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The article is not American in origin. Though CNN printed it. The article was a commentary by Akbar Ganji who is a leading Iranian dissident and pro-democracy activist. He served a six-year sentence in Tehran's Evin prison for his reporting on human rights abuses in Iran. The London-based human rights organization, Article 19, has described Ganji as the "Iranian Vaclav Havel" and he has received more than a dozen human rights, press freedom and pro-democracy awards. He is the author of "The Road to Democracy in Iran"

I know, I am just trying to be logical and un biased here.

That guy is probably looking for the top job in Tehran, people like him want their country to be ruined by war just so they can be rulers.

We have suffered before in the Vietnam, Iraq, and many other places including Afghanistan because of such fony rulers. They do not represent their people.

The end result is, our tax payer money is wasted for years, our boys have to die in foreign lands and our name turns bad because people like Karzai cannot run their own country for a day.

If it were not for such people, we would have had a well functioning Govt. in Afghanistan and Iraq with their own security forces having to go under the bullets every day rather than our marines.

And since he is anti Theran, so he would naturally get support from pro Tel Aviv sources.
 
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