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China Passes Japan as Second-Largest Economy
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SHANGHAI — After three decades of spectacular growth, China passed Japan in the second quarter to become the world’s second-largest economy behind the United States, according to government figures released early Monday.

The milestone, though anticipated for some time, is the most striking evidence yet that China’s ascendance is for real and that the rest of the world will have to reckon with a new economic superpower.

The recognition came early Monday, when Tokyo said that Japan’s economy was valued at about $1.28 trillion in the second quarter, slightly below China’s $1.33 trillion. Japan’s economy grew 0.4 percent in the quarter, Tokyo said, substantially less than forecast. That weakness suggests that China’s economy will race past Japan’s for the full year.

Experts say unseating Japan — and in recent years passing Germany, France and Great Britain — underscores China’s growing clout and bolsters forecasts that China will pass the United States as the world’s biggest economy as early as 2030. America’s gross domestic product was about $14 trillion in 2009.

“This has enormous significance,” said Nicholas R. Lardy, an economist at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “It reconfirms what’s been happening for the better part of a decade: China has been eclipsing Japan economically. For everyone in China’s region, they’re now the biggest trading partner rather than the U.S. or Japan.”

For Japan, whose economy has been stagnating for more than a decade, the figures reflect a decline in economic and political power. Japan has had the world’s second-largest economy for much of the last four decades, according to the World Bank. And during the 1980s, there was even talk about Japan’s economy some day overtaking that of the United States.

But while Japan’s economy is mature and its population quickly aging, China is in the throes of urbanization and is far from developed, analysts say, meaning it has a much lower standard of living, as well as a lot more room to grow. Just five years ago, China’s gross domestic product was about $2.3 trillion, about half of Japan’s.

This country has roughly the same land mass as the United States, but it is burdened with a fifth of the world’s population and insufficient resources.

Its per capita income is more on a par with those of impoverished nations like Algeria, El Salvador and Albania — which, along with China, are close to $3,600 — than that of the United States, where it is about $46,000.

Yet there is little disputing that under the direction of the Communist Party, China has begun to reshape the way the global economy functions by virtue of its growing dominance of trade, its huge hoard of foreign exchange reserves and United States government debt and its voracious appetite for oil, coal, iron ore and other natural resources.

China is already a major driver of global growth. The country’s leaders have grown more confident on the international stage and have begun to assert greater influence in Asia, Africa and Latin America, with things like special trade agreements and multibillion dollar resource deals.

“They’re exerting a lot of influence on the global economy and becoming dominant in Asia,” said Eswar S. Prasad, a professor of trade policy at Cornell and former head of the International Monetary Fund’s China division. “A lot of other economies in the region are essentially riding on China’s coat tails, and this is remarkable for an economy with a low per capita income.”

In Japan, the mood was one of resignation. Though increasingly eclipsed by Beijing on the world stage, Japan has benefited from a booming China, initially by businesses moving production there to take advantage of lower wages and, as local incomes have risen, by tapping a large and increasingly lucrative market for Japanese goods.

Beijing is also beginning to shape global dialogues on a range of issues, analysts said; for instance, last year it asserted that the dollar must be phased out as the world’s primary reserve currency.

And while the United States and the European Union are struggling to grow in the wake of the worst economic crisis in decades, China has continued to climb up the economic league tables by investing heavily in infrastructure and backing a $586 billion stimulus plan.

This year, although growth has begun to moderate a bit, China’s economy is forecast to expand about 10 percent — continuing a remarkable three-decade streak of double-digit growth.

“This is just the beginning,” said Wang Tao, an economist at UBS in Beijing. “China is still a developing country. So it has a lot of room to grow. And China has the biggest impact on commodity prices — in Russia, India, Australia and Latin America.”

There are huge challenges ahead, though. Economists say that China’s economy is too heavily dependent on exports and investment and that it needs to encourage greater domestic consumption — something China has struggled to do.

The country’s largely state-run banks have recently been criticized for lending far too aggressively in the last year while shifting some loans off their balance sheet to disguise lending and evade rules meant to curtail lending growth.

China is also locked in a fierce debate over its currency policy, with the United States, European Union and others accusing Beijing of keeping the Chinese currency, the renminbi, artificially low to bolster exports — leading to huge trade surpluses for China but major bilateral trade deficits for the United States and the European Union. China says that its currency is not substantially undervalued and that it is moving ahead with currency reform.

Regardless, China’s rapid growth suggests that it will continue to compete fiercely with the United States and Europe for natural resources but also offer big opportunities for companies eager to tap its market.

Although its economy is still only one-third the size of the American economy, China passed the United States last year to become the world’s largest market for passenger vehicles. China also passed Germany last year to become the world’s biggest exporter.

Global companies like Caterpillar, General Electric, General Motors and Siemens — as well as scores of others — are making a more aggressive push into China, in some cases moving research and development centers here.

Some analysts, though, say that while China is eager to assert itself as a financial and economic power — and to push its state companies to “go global” — it is reluctant to play a greater role in the debate over climate change or how to slow the growth of greenhouse gases.

China passed the United States in 2006 to become the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases, which scientists link to global warming. But China also has an ambitious program to cut the energy it uses for each unit of economic output by 20 percent by the end of 2010, compared to 2006.

Assessing what China’s newfound clout means, though, is complicated. While the country is still relatively poor per capita, it has an authoritarian government that is capable of taking decisive action — to stimulate the economy, build new projects and invest in specific industries.

That, Mr. Lardy at the Peterson Institute said, gives the country unusual power. “China is already the primary determiner of the price of virtually every major commodity,” he said. “And the Chinese government can be much more decisive in allocating resources in a way that other governments of this level of per capita income cannot.”
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George Friedman:


China Is Not Another Ascendant Superpower, It's Just Another Nation with Structural Problems

Well, in the first place you have to remember that China is very much a Third World country. Of the 1.3 billion Chinese, well over 1.1 billion have a standard living on the order of Nigeria. If you go to Shanghai and drive to Pudong, you can get the illusion that this is a European or American country, but just walk blocks away from the centre and you’ll see a very different China.

Secondly, the Chinese economy is a hostage of the foreign international system, but primarily of the American economy. China is incapable of domestic consumption on the order of production. So, when the United States catches cold, China gets pneumonia and that really is an important thing to understand – that China does not have an economy as we understand it in the sense of substantial domestic consumption. The Chinese economy is overwhelmingly export-oriented and therefore China is a hostage to its consumers.


Some context for these two disparate stories can be found in my essay China: An Interim Report. While I wrote this back in 2005, the issues it addresses-- financial fraud/misrepresentation, corruption, pollution and a command economy--are all very much in play.

It may strike many as odd that the issue of China's ascendency can draw such irreconcilably opposite opinion. I believe the fundamental reason is that it is easy to draw superficial conclusions about China (and Asia in general) because much of what matters in Asian nations and cultures occurs below the surface and is not discussed in public.

The reason is "face": the sense of public shame which has no real analog in American or indeed Western culture. In Asian societies, one does not air private "dirty laundry" in public. This is true of embarrassing or potentially shameful issues of individuals, families, companies, and the nation as a whole.

Anyone who thinks that a Big Nose can waltz into Shanghai, Beijing, Tokyo, Seoul or Bangkok and get a straight answer about less-than-glowing situations is misguided. Officials will happily show Big Nose know-nothings a glitzy superficial surface while carefully skirting any embarrassing flies in the ointment. In other words, Big Nose bigshots will be shown Pudong and fancy hotels in Shanghai but will never get access to dirt-poor villages filled with restive, combustible peasantry.

A supposedly "open" society can close off with remarkable speed, and the chatty guide can turn stone-faced and unfriendly in very short order.

Though Asians typically are highly attuned to the need of others to "save face," the opportunity to put a better face on complete catastrophy will always be taken. Thus special rice fields were grown on either side of a specific road just so Chairman Mao could be driven into the countryside to see the bountiful rice crop being grown, even as millions of his countrymen and women died horrible deaths from a mass starvation brought about by the policies of Mao's government and the CCP (Communist Party of China).

In other words: nothing is as it seems in Asia. Does this mean China's growth is illusory? No, but it does mean China's structural problems are masked as a matter of course and will always be masked as a matter of course.

Thus, while China's leadership expounds publicly on China's great prosperity, they're secretly buying houses for cash in Vancouver B.C. and Los Angeles, CA as retreats for their own families should things head down in China. Hmm, why would they do this if they really believed in China's ascendency?

Ignorant Big Noses often respond to face-saving measures with disbelief and anger. Why did they lie to me? Ah, but it wasn't a lie; it was simply the public expression of saving face. To expect the embarrassing truth to be stated publicly is to expect the impossible.

Thus the Big Nose visitor will be shown the new water treatment plant, but not told the filters are never changed because that's too costly. The Big Nose will be shown the belching factory closed by regulators in the day, and not the factory covertly operating at night.

The Big Nose will be enticed to build the pharmaceutical plant but not shown the perfect copies of his products which contain no medication that are sold as "the real thing" at enormous profit to the counterfeiters and enormous harm to consumers seeking remedies.

The Chinese media reports a manufacturer who was making exact copies of Japanese motorcycles has been shut down, but does not report the shop opened up in a nearby city a week later. And so on.

The Chinese have learned the value of bogus statistics from the masters of deception in the U.S. government, which routinely misprepresents inflation, unemployment and other key statistics as a matter of policy, lest the "bad news" spark some demands for change in the status quo. As a consequence, we should view all "official" statistics issued by China with the same skepticism that we view bogus U.S. government statistics.

But unlike the U.S. government, China's central government directly controls all the important levers of economic and financial activity. Copper being stockpiled? Only the government knows. Interest rates mandated lower? The government ordered the banks to do so, end of story.


All of which is to say that only those with access to the highest levels of local government can say what's actually happening in China. "Growth" numbers can be juiced, but electrical consumption is harder to flim-flam, and so on--but even electricity stats can be massaged. I say "local government" because I suspect not even the Central Government really knows what's going on at the local level, because reporting bad news would not only result in a loss of face but quite possibily a loss of position and prestige.

That's an "unintended consequence" of a command economy selectively utilizing an "open market Capitalist" model.

For better or worse, the U.S. decline and the consequences of our profligacy, addiction to debt, corrupt and venal banking sector and all the rest are aired 24/7 globally. Want to puncture Yankee hypocrisy about slavery in the pre-1860 Northeast? No problem, the data is on the Web.

Nothing delights a skeptical, suspicious-of-authority American as much as the exposing of official chicanery and the confirmation of our deepest suspicions about corporate skulduggery and government lies/manipulation. But in Asia, such revelations are a national embarrassment to be swept under the rug at the earliest possible convenience. "Self-criticism" is an exercise in stating the unavoidable and then using that confession as an opening to revel in the weaknesses of others.

As for the dollar's demise leading to China's rise: it isn't that simple. I would rephrase As an emboldened China sees, the American dollar is gravely wounded. And the days of US political supremacy are numbered to:

An increasingly desperate China sees the dollar as doomed and seeks an alternative as an act of self-preservation. That all fiat currencies are doomed is easily anticipated; but the process of their mutual decline is far messier than such superficially breezy pronouncements make out.

The dollar's demise has been announced for years, and yet perversely, it has refused to lower itself politely into the grave. Perhaps it will be the euro which expires suddenly, leaving its host nations in shock. Perhaps it will be the yuan which is shunned as China's export economy continues to unravel. Perhaps it will be the yen which is sold off as a poor hedge against a decline in relative value.

As opined here before: the question is not which fiat currency loses value against gold, but which one loses value faster. A replacement currency may not take shape as expected; there may be various alternatives such as a private gold-backed "quatloo" for global business transactions or a regional currency backed by a basket of commodities which includes petroleum and other tangible commodities in high demand.

Perhaps a private grain-backed currency will draw upon the grain exports of North America as the only "real wealth" of nations. Would you buy a wheat-backed "quatloo"? I personally would be interested in trading paper for wheat, gold, oil or anything more valuable than paper.


In other words, another fiat currency will not replace the dollar because it offers little to no advantage. We already have more than enough paper money, and a yuan will devalue just as rapidly as a regional currency backed by nothing more than promises of paper value.

And if there are any last words on "superpowers" and "global supremacy," I would look not to currencies alone but to the health of a nation's citizenry. At this point, it's a race to the bottom: which nation kills off its citizenry first: the U.S., with its illness-producing glorification of a fat and sugar-loaded diet which has sparked an obesity epidemic, or China, whose poor air quality is shortening the lives and productivity of hundreds of millions of its citizenry.

Maybe it won't be one superpower or two superpowers, but no superpowers: just a collection of nation-states of various sizes, all of which face a long list of structural problems.



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hehe, china will be become the largest economy at some point. its got 4x the people US does. japan would've overtaken USA during the late 80s / early 90s if it had an equal number of people and double the landmass. china is just huge.
 
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No one can Stop India and China, we are destined to rule the world lol The Asian giants will rise once again. The Shining Dragon and the Golden Bird will rule the world just the way they did for the majority of earth's history.
 
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No one can Stop India and China, we are destined to rule the world lol The Asian giants will rise once again. The Shining Dragon and the Golden Bird will rule the world just the way they did for the majority of earth's history.

I agree with you 100%. :cheers:

The world will revert back to the natural historical order. It is inevitable.
 
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No one can Stop India and China, we are destined to rule the world lol The Asian giants will rise once again. The Shining Dragon and the Golden Bird will rule the world just the way they did for the majority of earth's history.

lol
wake up

the world doesn't need to be ruled by Asia
mutual respect and world exchanges for mutual benefits

what you say is 10yo kid behavior
it should not be read in such a forum
 
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Congratulations China --- Very nice achivement !!!

You are destined to progress, hope you can keep the momentum.
 
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lol
wake up

the world doesn't need to be ruled by Asia
mutual respect and world exchanges for mutual benefits

what you say is 10yo kid behavior
it should not be read in such a forum

Put in better and kinder words than I thought of.
 
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hehe, china will be become the largest economy at some point. its got 4x the people US does. japan would've overtaken USA during the late 80s / early 90s if it had an equal number of people and double the landmass. china is just huge.

Do your realize its takes more then five Chinese to produce as much as one Japanese.
It takes 8 chinese to produce as much as one American.
 
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Do your realize its takes more then five Chinese to produce as much as one Japanese.

Exactly, that means there is still a LOT of room to grow. :)

The GDP per capita of my home town (Hong Kong) is already similar to that of Japan.

China's economic growth is putting it on track to become one giant version of Hong Kong.

Turning such a giant nation into a "developed" economy will have the side effect of creating a very large economy. It's simple maths.
 
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Whaa...GDP again? GDP could mean anything, it could also mean debts, or bonds.
 
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