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dear friend its nothing about israel.its all about nato and israel is not a nato member.i cant understand ur logic.even we make war with israel that weapons ll stay there for using cos its belong to nato.

... so this means, nato will not react if turkey react to israels evil plans and aggression on her neighbours???

we would be luckiest muslims if that is in fact true... but wonder why, then why they are so much afraid of Pakistan and Iran??? if the reason is hate that we have for israel then i must say israelies hates muslims more than what could even imagine, and world has seen their actions too... massacre of Gazans was just few glimps of their brutality, they have occupied mulims land than how come muslims could feel safe while having such a mean and cunning neighbour which hold over 200 nukes since three decades??? how can they be justified?
 
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Isarel never threatened Iran or Pakistan with elimination. I am yet to see a single statement by any Israeli leader to make any kind of threat against Pakistan in particular, keep aside threatening to wipe it from the face of the world.

Iran did and thus is facing the attention of the world. Why are you thumping, jumping?

You have the Nukes, you have a deterant, then why whine?
You have enough trouble in your backyard. Stop blaming the heaven for your plight and deliver your share of duties to a prospective future, for you and your countrymen. Look around yourself, all the Muslim countries are busy building their nation and their resources. They don't give a *** sh!t about Israel its nukes, Palestine's problems and the much touted, tortured/cheated/humiliated/attacked ummah, providing only lip service while spending all of their energy and time towards a better tomorrow.
 
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but israel has secret intention to isolate pakistan in 1998 their is a information when pakistan was about to test their atomic bomb israeli fighter jets was in indian airbases to attack pakistani nukes and its bases but with pakistan airfoce was ready for it too and at that time PAF fighter jets was been flying near to indian borders and our nukes too and we also seen IAF fighter jets was exercising in 1998 in them some F 16 also have been flown by israeli fighter jets
 
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but israel has secret intention to isolate pakistan in 1998 their is a information when pakistan was about to test their atomic bomb israeli fighter jets was in indian airbases to attack pakistani nukes and its bases but with pakistan airfoce was ready for it too and at that time PAF fighter jets was been flying near to indian borders and our nukes too and we also seen IAF fighter jets was exercising in 1998 in them some F 16 also have been flown by israeli fighter jets

Source? A Non Pakistani one would e preferred.
 
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Lsten i understand what you are trying to say but that is the reality.There was a time when muslims led the world in science,technology and in conquest but now everything is different but don't loose hope if you are a muslim you will not loose hope because the Muslims will rise again and remember that Allah is with those who wait.Remember The battle of Hunain the muslims were outnumbered they did not have alot of weapons but they did not loose hope and they prayed and Allah helped them by sending an army of a thousand angels so please don't loose hope and have faith in Allah my friend.
After all this is a sign of the horrors to come in the near future.

A great thought just want to add that greatness is not decided by the power to destroy but construct and co-operate.
 
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Isarel never threatened Iran or Pakistan with elimination. I am yet to see a single statement by any Israeli leader to make any kind of threat against Pakistan in particular, keep aside threatening to wipe it from the face of the world.

Iran did and thus is facing the attention of the world. Why are you thumping, jumping?

You have the Nukes, you have a deterant, then why whine?
You have enough trouble in your backyard. Stop blaming the heaven for your plight and deliver your share of duties to a prospective future, for you and your countrymen. Look around yourself, all the Muslim countries are busy building their nation and their resources. They don't give a *** sh!t about Israel its nukes, Palestine's problems and the much touted, tortured/cheated/humiliated/attacked ummah, providing only lip service while spending all of their energy and time towards a better tomorrow.

as long as India provoke , Pakistan wouldn't put all their energy on economic construction

India put so much money into military, extremely treat all of neighbours
 
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... so this means, nato will not react if turkey react to israels evil plans and aggression on her neighbours???

we would be luckiest muslims if that is in fact true... but wonder why, then why they are so much afraid of Pakistan and Iran??? if the reason is hate that we have for israel then i must say israelies hates muslims more than what could even imagine, and world has seen their actions too... massacre of Gazans was just few glimps of their brutality, they have occupied mulims land than how come muslims could feel safe while having such a mean and cunning neighbour which hold over 200 nukes since three decades??? how can they be justified?

You're right Israelis have nukes and no one cares but when Iran tries to develope nuclear power it's a threat to the whole world Iran has a right like every other nation in the world to develope nuclear weaons an d you're right that pakistanis are lucky but second luckiest Muslims the Luckiest Muslims are the Iranians whose government is not pro American.

LONG LIVE PAKISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:pakistan:
 
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Isarel never threatened Iran or Pakistan with elimination. I am yet to see a single statement by any Israeli leader to make any kind of threat against Pakistan in particular, keep aside threatening to wipe it from the face of the world.

Iran did and thus is facing the attention of the world. Why are you thumping, jumping?

You have the Nukes, you have a deterant, then why whine?
You have enough trouble in your backyard. Stop blaming the heaven for your plight and deliver your share of duties to a prospective future, for you and your countrymen. Look around yourself, all the Muslim countries are busy building their nation and their resources. They don't give a *** sh!t about Israel its nukes, Palestine's problems and the much touted, tortured/cheated/humiliated/attacked ummah, providing only lip service while spending all of their energy and time towards a better tomorrow.


One of the reasons we worry is because we have India as our neighbour infact if the pakistanis did not have to spend so much on the military to stay safe from the Indian threat I bet Pakistan would have had a very stable eand growing economy like it was before 1965.:pakistan:
 
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to omerhhh: I am fully agree with you and I am not losing hope but only concerned about losing trust among Muslims which is slowly increasing day by day and they, very tactfully creating a gap by calling terrorist to everyone who stand against their evil plans and other to start believing on whatever they say.

and they keep slicing muslim world where themselves getting united under EU and NATO. In 70s Bhutto tried to unite muslims with help from King Khalid and UAE. you have seen what happened to them. they planned to make world biggest bank BCCI using wealth of oil rich muslim world but then west blamed and later forced to shut it down on charges of supporting criminal activities and fraud. it was world 7th largest bank at that time and founded in Karachi by Agha Hassan Abdi who also made UBL.

jews n west simply cannot see muslims to get united and thats their biggest fear, though if someone unite muslim under one flag nobody can stop them with anything not even by nuclear, biological or chemical weapons and thats their biggest fear and keep us deviding.

YES!!
Exactly and this has been mentioned in Quran that the Muslims will be seperated and the Kufar will all be united [NATO] but remember that the time will come when Imam mehdi's army will rise from Khurassan or some region like that and they will unite the Muslims liberate the Palestinians,conquer Constantinople and arrive at the doorstep of Jerusalem and like i said the muslims will rise.On the other hand you say that there should be some way to unite the Muslims well i suggest the formation of a federation like the soviet union it should be called the federation of islamic states and all its members should sign a war treaty that way let's say that it has 30 members then even the U.S will think twice before attacking Muslim nation like thry did in Iraq because if they start a war against one country it will actualy ba against 30 countries.
HOWS THAT FOR UNITY!!!!!
 
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yes u are right.without nato and usa permission turkey cant use them.

forexample suddenly iran,russia or israel has send nukes to turkey.ofcourse turkey ll use these even nato and usa says no.turkey can use them if she gets a nuclear attack by enemy.

in peace to ofcourse turkey needs permission of usa and nato.but in war time all is possible.u know these bombs under turkish soils and 40 of them given to turkish airforce.

same scenario can be for germany,italy,belgium too.if these countries gets any nuke attack by enemy they can answer

I believe you still cannot use those nukes as they require an arming code without which they are useless. And you do not posses the codes.
 
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Isarel never threatened Iran or Pakistan with elimination. I am yet to see a single statement by any Israeli leader to make any kind of threat against Pakistan in particular, keep aside threatening to wipe it from the face of the world.

Iran did and thus is facing the attention of the world. Why are you thumping, jumping?

You have the Nukes, you have a deterant, then why whine?
You have enough trouble in your backyard. Stop blaming the heaven for your plight and deliver your share of duties to a prospective future, for you and your countrymen. Look around yourself, all the Muslim countries are busy building their nation and their resources. They don't give a *** sh!t about Israel its nukes, Palestine's problems and the much touted, tortured/cheated/humiliated/attacked ummah, providing only lip service while spending all of their energy and time towards a better tomorrow.

thanks mate, your comments reflect how much negative mentality you (indians) have. you people cannot see.. or may be just shut your eyes when anything happens which is not in you favour.

khair(well)... tell me just one thing... if iran has said to wipe out israel and that the reason she should not have the nuke then how come israel been gifted the nukes when she attacked and occupied not just palistine, but lebanon, syria and iraq too (oeration opera)???

but no worries i can understand that the evils will only defend what devil says against any good :devil:
 
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as long as India provoke , Pakistan wouldn't put all their energy on economic construction

India put so much money into military, extremely treat all of neighbours
Comprehension problem.
Elaborate.
 
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One of the reasons we worry is because we have India as our neighbour infact if the pakistanis did not have to spend so much on the military to stay safe from the Indian threat I bet Pakistan would have had a very stable eand growing economy like it was before 1965.:pakistan:
Sheesh.....
Where did I talk about cutting your defence expenses? Care to point?
Economic plight is not the one that is pulling Pakistan in the gutter. Its the Militancy and Jehadis. Lot many muslim countries spend more than Pakistan on defence. Do it if you can afford it. Just pull your nation out of the confines of militancy and suicide bombers and spend more on professional forces. It will yield better results than jumping over Chechenia or Palestine.
 
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