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[LogiCal]

Islam make it compulsory for Muslims to seek religious as well as secular education so i dont know why a Muslim who is good in fiqh(slamic jurisprudence) cannot be good in maths and physics...

Really??

Let me give you an example......in order to be a Biologist you need to understand and accept one of its basic theories: the theory of evolution, which Islam condemns......
Islam teaches that humans were directly created by the Almighty, they didn't evolve.....

Now tell me, how can one understand and progress in modern bio-science without accepting evolution.....and thus going against Islamic teachings

 

[AUz]

I read it a long time ago, so dont remember everything. But I do believe the guy( i mean the iranian dude) talks from his heart, he is not there to troll.
Also I liked some of the debates he had with muslim clerics / muslim visitors to his site ( the same arguments are repeated by muslim everywhere, so once you read that you will know many are false arguments)
As I dont know much about islam(theology) I wont trust the cross reference to verses(of both sides pro and anti) only a practicing muslim with access to a quran and other sources will be able to see for himself who is right and who is not.

Bunch of bull! Either you are veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy "masoom" (innocent) or you are just bluffing. He is not a troll? really? really? Most of the "ex-Muslims" on his site are Christians pretending to be "ex-Muslims" ... Muslims like me go to these sites everyday and see their trolling..here's one example... There is one incident where Prophet Muhammad's aunt died and while burying her , Prophet went into the grave of his aunt and check the size (Like it its wide enough for the dead body)...Your that Iranian dude (which he is not. Its a TEAM of people (Mostly Christians) running that site) did a "literal" translation of the incident in English and said "Muhammad laid down in its aunt's graveyard and hence he was a necrophile because he had sex with his dead aunt" .. THIS is your "coming from heart and not trolling" ... Many idiots goras don't know jack about Qur'an or Islam so they'll believe his trolling... I am a fluent Arabic reader and a Urdu speaker..I know how he mis-uses language to malign Islam... Its like me translating "Whats up" into Urdu literally. Would that convey the right meaning?

See my signature ...

Really??

Let me give you an example......in order to be a Biologist you need to understand and accept one of its basic theories: the theory of evolution, which Islam condemns......
Islam teaches that humans were directly created by the Almighty, they didn't evolve.....

Now tell me, how can one understand and progress in modern bio-science without accepting evolution.....and thus going against Islamic teachings

Dummy , Islam doesn't condemned evolution. Evolution was being discussed in Arabia in fcuking 10th century!!!!!!! Islam is open to science...study science as you will...Islam is no hindrance to science...unlike Christianity , which stops science...remember Gallileo? lol.. No wonder West threw Christianity out of their society so they can progress...

Did you even study evolution at higher levels? Go search for "Muhammadan theory of gradual change from lower forms to man" ... Muslim scientists discussed possibility of evolution 1000 years before Darwin ...

 

[livingdead]

Bunch of bull! Either you are veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy "masoom" (innocent) or you are just bluffing. He is not a troll? really? really? Most of the "ex-Muslims" on his site are Christians pretending to be "ex-Muslims" ... Muslims like me go to these sites everyday and see their trolling..here's one example... There is one incident where Prophet Muhammad's aunt died and while burying her , Prophet went into the grave of his aunt and check the size (Like it its wide enough for the dead body)...Your that Iranian dude (which he is not. Its a TEAM of people (Mostly Christians) running that site) did a "literal" translation of the incident in English and said "Muhammad laid down in its aunt's graveyard and hence he was a necrophile because he had sex with his dead aunt" .. THIS is your "coming from heart and not trolling" ... Many idiots goras don't know jack about Qur'an or Islam so they'll believe his trolling... I am a fluent Arabic reader and a Urdu speaker..I know how he mis-uses language to malign Islam... Its like me translating "Whats up" into Urdu literally. Would that convey the right meaning?

See my signature ...

I am talking only about him, not about others. He is iranian not christian. Obviously because it is a site which talks against islam, it will attract trolls of all kind, I am not surprised.

Like I already said, I am not good in islamic theology, if you are and still believe he is lying then its your deduction not mine.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Really??

Let me give you an example......in order to be a Biologist you need to understand and accept one of its basic theories: the theory of evolution, which Islam condemns......
Islam teaches that humans were directly created by the Almighty, they didn't evolve.....

Now tell me, how can one understand and progress in modern bio-science without accepting evolution.....and thus going against Islamic teachings

Lol you dont even know anything about evolution haha.

First of all evolution is a theory and i am sure you know the difference between theory and fact. Secondly evolution is not about creation of life but how life evolved and it talk about a change from point a to point b in the life of a species

 

[LogiCal]

Dummy , Islam doesn't condemned evolution. Evolution was being discussed in Arabia in fcuking 10th century!!!!!!! Islam is open to science...study science as you will...Islam is no hindrance to science...unlike Christianity , which stops science...remember Gallileo? lol.. No wonder West threw Christianity out of their society so they can progress...

Did you even study evolution at higher levels? Go search for "Muhammadan theory of gradual change from lower forms to man" ... Muslim scientists discussed possibility of evolution 1000 years before Darwin

Then please explain who were Adam and Eve....

If your claim is to be believed than Adam and Eve cannot be humans.....they might have been lower form of animals from whom humans have evolved....i.e Allah didn't create humans directly.....

Can any other Muslim confirm this.....

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

You quoted my name when you were replying to Auz

Then please explain who were Adam and Eve....

If your claim is to be believed than Adam and Eve cannot be humans.....they might have been lower form of animals from whom humans have evolved....i.e Allah didn't create humans directly.....

Can any other Muslim confirm this.....

Before i explain to you who were Adam and Eve. You explain to me how and from where life came into existence on this planet?

 

[LogiCal]

You quoted my name when you were replying to Auz .....

Sorry, It's a mistake.....corrected....

 

[LogiCal]

Lol you dont even know anything about evolution haha.

First of all evolution is a theory and i am sure you know the difference between theory and fact......

You guys are contradicting yourself here buddy....

Firstly, You're saying that evolution is a 'theory' and NOT 'fact'.....and your fellow Muslim is saying that, acc. to "Muhammadan theory", humans have gradually EVOLVED from lower forms of man.........

Secondly evolution is not about creation of life but how life evolved and it talk about a change from point a to point b in the life of a species

Ok, I admit that evolution is not about creation....

But then, if you accept the theory of evolution that you have to reject the Islamic teaching about the creation of the first Humans......
If Humans indeed evolve then there cannot be any ONE FIRST human being....

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

If Humans indeed evolved then there cannot be any ONE FIRST human being....

Evolution came after creation..you need to create a life in order to start process of evolution and i asked how life begin at first place before we talk about how it evolved.

What is theory of evolution? You explain your understanding of theory of evolution

 

[AUz]

You guys are contradicting yourself here buddy....

Firstly, You're saying that evolution is a 'theory' and NOT 'fact'.....and your fellow Muslim is saying that, acc. to "Muhammadan theory", humans have gradually EVOLVED from lower forms of man.........



Ok, I admit that evolution is not about creation....

But then, if you accept the theory of evolution that you have to reject the Islamic teaching about the creation of the first Humans......
If Humans indeed evolve then there cannot be any ONE FIRST human being....

Dummy , what is your age? No one is "contradicting" anything. We aren't even discussing anything. I am just telling you that unlike Christianity , Islam is not a hindrance in scientific advance... You brought up evolution and I showed you that even 1000 years before , Muslims were discussing the idea of Evolution so Islam doesn't "condemned" any scientific theory.... It can be right and it can be wrong...but Islam allows free exchange of ideas....

Plus: Many Muslim scientists in the past have read Qur'an and came to the conclusion that even Qur'an talks about creationism in terms of evolution..like the verse in Qur'an says "We initiated your creation and shaped you to what you are today" .. Got any clue? If a scientist read it and take it as evolution , then Islam won't condemned him ... We have free-will... I am not even arguing for/against evolution. I am just showing you that Islam can not be a hindrance in scientific advance....

 

[RazPaK]

Really??

Let me give you an example......in order to be a Biologist you need to understand and accept one of its basic theories: the theory of evolution, which Islam condemns......
Islam teaches that humans were directly created by the Almighty, they didn't evolve.....

Now tell me, how can one understand and progress in modern bio-science without accepting evolution.....and thus going against Islamic teachings

I know a PHD that teaches Biology at Yale University, and also owns a mosque as an Indian Muslim. Some of of you pseudo-intellectuals would be in for a surprise If you would have a conversation with the man.

Theory of evolution does not contradict Islam, and has been discussed by an Arab over a thousand years ago by the name of Al-Jahiz.