World biggest underground weapons market

[Interceptor]

Excuse me; I am talking about a Weapons in Hands of Private individuals, Do you see me complaining about weapons in Pakistan Army's hand, or 400,000 Pakistani Army Presense in Azad Kashmir.

It is the guns made here used in Kashmir. The cry for jihad and the easy supply of weapons. I find this video in that context very disturbing.

I dont know what you think of the Pakistani Army leave that, I see what you think of the Pakistani people.

 

[Wounded Healer]

There is nothing wrong with Culture or Gun producing. But the fact that any tom dick and harry can walk in and buy a weapon is a matter of grave concern for any government; culture or not.

@adux,
friend, this is where u r ill-informed..............not everyone can go and buy guns from these places............mostly people who talk about the tribal areas have never even been there .............and now this fool makes a documentary telling the world that its very easy to obtain guns.............this is wrong..........this guy probably paid a couple of people and made the documentary in order to profit from it...........this is the best example of mis-information................believe me when i say that its not easy obtaining guns from these markets..........there are checkposts everywhere............and they work .

 

[Adux]

Healer,

Check posts can be paid, I can understand its a culture, all I am advocating for is regulation. People always like to make a quick buck

 

[Adux]

I dont know what you think of the Pakistani Army leave that, I see what you think of the Pakistani people.

Really is that all you could understand from my post. I have a Modi and a Thackery in my country, does that mean I am one of 'em, or should I judge every other Hindu similar to them. At the same time, Does it also mean, that Modi or Thackery dont exists, do you think people like those two dont exist.

Do you think I would make such a sweeping generalization of the Pakistani Public? If I had a mentality like that do you think I would be able to reach anywhere in life?


Kids annoy me... Black or white is all they see. Life is grey.

I dont think that highly of PA, cuz as an Army they have broken their oath to be under the civilian control numerous times, ie They went against the constitution of Pakistan. An Army who go against the King are Traitors in my book. You can have your view. I dont care. PAF and PN are another issue.

 

[Wounded Healer]

adux,
u made a very valid point............it should be and it has been regulated to quite a great extent.............and i agree that minor problems still exist and these have to be dealt with

 

[Interceptor]

Modi and a Thackery in my country,

I dont think that highly of PA, cuz as an Army they have broken their oath to be under the civilian control numerous times, ie They went against the constitution of Pakistan. An Army who go against the King are Traitors in my book. You can have your view. I dont care. PAF and PN are another issue.

What is "Modi and a Thackery?"

I am sitting thousands of miles away from Pakistan and I too say the Dictatorship by General is wrong and they traitors in my book too.

I only made the lines bold and I can only talk about what I see, and I dont know your opinins about the Pakistani Army, of what type of weapons they carry. However, I saw what you wrote in the previous context and was more to do with Indian fundamentalism about Pakistan and Kashmir. The Indian bigamy is surely seen by you, you have to agree, is this what India was created is this what Ghandi would want to create hate and destabilize south asia? Kashmir is Pakistan and it doesn't matter how you see it or hear it, its a fact.

 

[Adux]

Interceptor,

You wouldnt understand, Read again?

 

[Interceptor]

^^
Logically I would want to get back on the topic, and I don't know what you are trying to convey.

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The Baluchistanis are not easy people to get around and attack they are hard. These tribal Baluchis have pathan in them and they will not give up as the sources show. It is better to reason with the Baluchistanis and give the people what they wnat

 

[Interceptor]

Musharraf says victory near in Balochistan
QUETTA ( 2007-05-10 21:37:44 ) :
Security forces are on the verge of wiping out militant camps in the gas-rich province of Balochistan, President Pervez Musharraf said on Thursday, while reiterating a rebel amnesty offer.

Musharraf, on his first visit to one of the province's main rebel hot spots since government forces killed a prominent nationalist leader in the region in August, said the government would not tolerate terrorism.

"Only three to four rebel camps are left. We will wipe them out too," Musharraf, wearing a big Baloch turban, told a rally in Sui town, 720 km (450 miles) south-west of the capital, Islamabad.

Repeating an amnesty offer, Musharraf said the government would take no action against rebels if they laid down their arms.

"They are our brothers and sisters. I urge them to surrender their arms. No action will be taken against them if they do so," he said.

"Give up weapons and terrorism; otherwise the law will take its course. We will not allow terrorism."

In August last year, the army killed veteran Baloch nationalist leader Nawaz Akbar Khan Bugti in an offensive on his mountain hideout.

Musharraf made no reference to Bugti, a former governor of the province of deserts and mountains which borders Afghanistan, Iran and the Arabian Sea.

But he announced several development projects for the province and promised more.



Copyright Reuters, 2007

http://www.aaj.tv/news/news.php?pg=3&show=detail&nid=65718
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[EagleEyes]

^ What do you think? Liking the policy?

 

[Interceptor]

The dictator is using force and it wont solve the issue with the tribes the tribes want development of law and jobs there is non at current the dicatator has only given pain to them killing Baluchis, this wont help this will create more hate. The first defeat of Pakistan is to send troops there the government should have challenged the separatist by making opposistion but if you have dictator that wont happen. If there was opposistion made towards the separatist and the Baluchistanis were shown that the Gov will engage in the issue which are many e.g roads, education and jobs that the ones I can think of. If they had used talks and opposistion elements this mess would not have happened.

 

[EagleEyes]

Sending the troops to Afghan border was essential to the cooperation of the War on Terror. IMO, it has nothing to do with Musharraf. The pressure automatically comes from the American and Afghan officials on Pakistan doing nothing, hence you now see different tactics which includes fencing in order to stop the raids by the militants accross the border.

As for the development and renovation of different facilities/education/etc.. It is likely to occur as the time passes. None of the government in the past have focussed on Balochistan, but it is happening slowly, but my guess is that the things will start to move as the Gawadar project is fully done. Companies and house building schemes are already moving in which confirms the development of Balochistan in the future.

 

[Interceptor]

Sending the troops to Afghan border was essential to the cooperation of the War on Terror. IMO, it has nothing to do with Musharraf. The pressure automatically comes from the American and Afghan officials on Pakistan doing nothing, hence you now see different tactics which includes fencing in order to stop the raids by the militants accross the border.

Right patrolling borders is fine nut using the military to attack civilians I dont see that as being a good tactic that is creating hate the violence in Baluchistan is because of the military presence there. Webby with respect if your town was under siege would you aprove with that its a similar situation in Baluchistan and its gardually worsening. Force is not in the national interest of Pakistan. Pakistan requires diplomates and opposistion against the separatist who are creating this gloom in Baluchistan. The Baluchistan has been a neglected part of Pakistan even though it hold one of the greates importance in the country. The steps taken Baluchistan by the military government have inflamed the resistance more killing Bugti was mistake he is a political icon and removing him like that will only create more hate.

As for the development and renovation of different facilities/education/etc.. It is likely to occur as the time passes. None of the government in the past have focussed on Balochistan, but it is happening slowly, but my guess is that the things will start to move as the Gawadar project is fully done. Companies and house building schemes are already moving in which confirms the development of Balochistan in the future.

By all means it must happen its a point that the country is growing on the backs of people not Governments. The Gwadar project webby this is what I think; I believe it is in danger of not being completed because it is attracting to much international influence in this case lets take the major ones the US and India dont want a sea port that can supply China another Pearl do you see where I am coming from. China has control of major ports around Asia. The sea port is more for a political purpose rather a national development the Chinnese have heavy influence and it is behind a curtain. I don't mind China having influence! However, China is a country that is not liked by India, US and Afgansitan they will have a heavy hand in the Baluchistan and will try to create instablility in the region. The chinnese have already taken steps against Pakistan and the allied by creating the the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, SCO a counter measure for the heavy influence of US on Pakistan. Webby can you realize what the impact of this matter is there a huge divide, the chinnese are Pakistans allies to day but the tomorrow is uncertain. This my opinion.

 

[ahussains]

Let the time have to decide what happend in future .. Most of the Pakistani Leaders Who comes in the Past and in Present are not the Well Wisher of the Pakistan ....

May Allah Help us and Help this Country too...

 

[Interceptor]

Let the time have to decide what happend in future .. Most of the Pakistani Leaders Who comes in the Past and in Present are not the Well Wisher of the Pakistan ....

May Allah Help us and Help this Country too...

Please write constructively about the topic! Pakistan does not have time it has to fix this problem, it must be done swiftly this not only for the national interest first but for the wider international concern. The image of Baluchistan is very bad and could lead to confrontation with the US forign policy against Pakistan.

God only helps those who try to work hard, even trying to achieve something you cant you will earn something but doing nothing.