Let God judge who is Muslim or not.
Come out of your stupid Idealism.
In Islam, Muslim is one who follows all the pillars of Islam.
You fail in one, you instantly become Non-Muslim.
You are by Birth failing in them.
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Let God judge who is Muslim or not.
They are enrolled there as Ahmedis.
And ahmedi cult was born in India with the help of Britishers to divide Muslims so indeed Indians will accept anything that is aimed at damaging Islam.
ahmedis are not Muslims, they can call them ahmedis and followers of a new religion ahemdism or lahorism or mirzaism but NOT Islam.
They are insulting universal religion Islam.
Ahmadiyyas are an off shot of Islam.
Islam came first.
Law will judge it from Islamic references and not from Ahmadiyyas.
Nobody is insulting Islam. In India, Ahmedis are enrolled as Muslims same here in UK and US too, and don't forget India has the third largest Muslim popluation of any country. Law of land has to take precedence over religious laws be it Hindu religious laws or Islamic religious laws.
In India if you say Ahmedis are not Muslims, you could be prosecuted because you have hurt others religious sentiments. The laws are very clear here.
Dint i debate with you in another thread who ghulam mirza added fake text and lies to Quranic verses?
Go around the world and read Quran you will NOT find one word addition or deduction from the Hollybook but read what ahmedis added to the Quran you will find how you guys are just trying to Insult Islam.
as far as your humanrights tell us are you stopped from eating drinking dancing breathing? how dare you have created a fake makka at rabwah?
Come out of your stupid Idealism.
In Islam, Muslim is one who follows all the pillars of Islam.
You fail in one, you instantly become Non-Muslim.
You are by Birth failing in them.
Ahmadiyyas are an off shot of Islam.
Islam came first.
Law will judge it from Islamic references and not from Ahmadiyyas.
Absolutely not. Religion is a personal matter, hence governments are not in the business of interpreting religions. If some one say I am a Muslim, the government has no business in saying you are not a Muslim.
Anyway, interpretations of religions are hundreds. I read some where that 50% sunnis don't believe shias are Muslims. If government start creating religions everyday, it will stop governing.
As an Indian you know that Ahamdis are Muslims according to the Indian law.
Read my previous post.
You are still a Non-Muslim?
Are you ready to die for Allah for a holy cause?
No.
Absolutely not. Religion is a personal matter
, hence governments are not in the business of interpreting religions. If some one say I am a Muslim, the government has no business in saying you are not a Muslim.
Anyway, interpretations of religions are hundreds. I read some where that 50% sunnis don't believe shias are Muslims. If government start creating religions everyday, it will stop governing.
As an Indian you know that Ahamdis are Muslims according to the Indian law.
Many Ahmadis died defending their mosques on 28th May 2010. I hope your holy cause doesn't include suicide bombing or attacking mosques.
Some Sunni militant groups are demanding Shias to be delcared Non-Muslim. This is not going to stop anytime soon. I think Mullahs would end up declaring all of Pakistanis Non-Muslims in a few decades.
It was like pre partition:- (1950)
Sunni+Shia+Ahmadi ---against--- Hindus+sikhs
then
Sunni+shia+ahmadi -- against--- Christians + pakistani hindus+sikhs
then zia era
sunni+shia ---against--- Ahmedis + Christians + pakistani hindus+sikhs+balochis
then current situation
Sunni ---against--- Shia Hazaras + Ahmedis + Christians + pakistani hindus+sikhs+balochis
Future scenario
Sunni Wahabi +Ahl-e-hadith------against--- sunni deobandis+sufists+ brelvis+Shia Hazaras + Ahmedis + Christians + pakistani hindus+sikhs+balochis
If it matters to islam then be assured allah will send someone to attend this issue or maybe PBUH will himself clarify on this by whatever means (assuming he is all so powerful and divine). Or maybe Gabriel will come and clarify and defend islam (why not? we are told he has been doing this stuffs in history.)
Till that time you have to live by this fact that Ahmadis are muslims. No one can deny them their deen. You or any other perishable mullah is no one to declare anyone as non-muslim.