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This joker again?

Who the fukc thought it would be a good idea to give him a uniform and beret? :hitwall:

All this Kung Fu stuff is totally inadequate for any professional fighting force. Seems that some policy makers watched too many Bruce Lee movies -_-

What all forces, military and police, need are modern science and experienced based fighting techniques like Krav Maga.
 
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I concur with you in this matter:agree:.Women tend to change their loyalty more often than men because like you said they tend to be more loyal to their partner/mate which can prove disastrous if exploited properly by the enemy.Let me give you an example of this shifting loyalty which i have witnessed before my own eyes-
There was an ongoing family feud between two families in my neighborhood because of a piece of land.This feud had been ongoing since the last 40 years.The family which was the rightful owner of the land had a daughter who was the only child of the family and was likely to inherit all the properties including the land in the future.Even though the other family was directly responsible for the murder of her grandfather because of the land dispute she "fell" in love with a boy of that family and eloped with him and married him in the court of law against the wish of her parents.Just after her marriage her father disowned her of the entire property but she filed a case against her own father under the influence of her husband and demanded the right to inherit the land as the sole rightful inheritor of the family and the funniest thing is that the district court ruled the judgement in her favor.Her father died of this shock but it didn't affect the daughter,she claimed the entire land and surprisingly gave it to her in laws even though they were the ones responsible for her grandfather's death,today they have built an apartment on that land and have made a huge profit out of it:rolleyes:.So the moral of the story is that even a loving and devoted daughter can be turned against her own family.The same can also happen to a female army officer who may be lured and trapped in love by some enemy spies and then can be effectively turned against her own country.
But the same can't be said in case of the male officers as it is highly unlikely that they can be turned against their own motherland by the enemy.....:coffee:
Now you know why men were killed in battlefield and women taken as prisoners,since they could be later turned into loyal wives by the attackers.
This is part of evolution even seen in animals, a female lioness will take a rival male as mate.
In most of the cases it is the girl that leaves behind her loving family and elopes with her lover, while the boy still keeps in touch with his family. Now you wonder why.
Women look for security and the future of their offspring it can be from any male as long as they think that male is adequate enough to take care of her needs and her offspring, it's purely maternal instinct.
While males behave in a clan like manner and have loyalties fixed to a clan and rarely change.

This is not about questioning the loyalty of females but in general evolution has molded them that way.
 
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:lol:

This joker again?

Who the fukc thought it would be a good idea to give him a uniform and beret? :hitwall:

All this Kung Fu stuff is totally inadequate for any professional fighting force. Seems that some policy makers watched too many Bruce Lee movies -_-

What all forces, military and police, need are modern science and experienced based fighting techniques like Krav Maga.

Spetsnaz can deflect bullets with a spade.
 
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I can say that a MMA trainee or fighter will easily trump the so called Commando trainer Seema Rao.
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You cant make such blunt statements.

Anyone who learns a martial art or fighting technique will tell you that his is the best.

Put one of those MMA fighters against a Krav Maga master instructor and you will see the result :lol:

Spetsnaz can deflect bullets with a spade.

And Ninjas can catch arrows with their fingers :lol:

Wait are you serious?
 
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Spetsnaz can deflect bullets with a spade.

Shaolin originated in India.

You cant make such blunt statements.

Anyone who learns a martial art or fighting technique will tell you that his is the best.

Put one of those MMA fighters against a Krav Maga master instructor and you will see the result :lol:



And Ninjas can catch arrows with their fingers :lol:

Wait are you serious?

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What is Spetsnaz? The Russian army Special Forces were originally called the Spetsnaz. They are regarded as the elite best trained force of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This group is deployed on special missions like counter terrorism attacks and for highly skilled operations including assassinations, sabotage and stealing vital information from the enemies. Their training includes extreme physical and mental endurance exercises, and they are considered the counter part of the elite US Navy Seals and the Delta Force of United Kingdom.

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This Soviet Russian Spetsnaz Shovel is available in special discounted sale of up to 46% at certain online stores. Cold Steel and Best Glide Aviation and Survival Equipments and eBay are accepting orders through their online stores. Free Super Saver shipping is also being offered by Amazon.com for purchases over $25. Customers then can choose which among the available dealers can best satisfy their requirements when it comes to deciding where to buy Spetsnaz Shovel online.

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Spetsnaz Shovel Throwing

The Spetsnaz shovel is an outstanding throwing implement. In the hands of the initiated, it could be a very potent and lethal weapon enough to stop any opponent in his tracks. Distance range can be up to 10 meters or even more if made by a well-trained expert. The shovel itself is especially designed aerodynamically to be thrown and hit the target with ample accuracy. The weight balance between the handle and the blade makes it perfect for throwing and this is one feature that comes in handy especially in close quarter combat. It is then no wonder that from a simple multi-tasking implement, the Spetsnaz shovel has evolved into an important accessory for combat training by elite forces around the world.

When it comes to throwing, this important combat accessory requires muscle power and target accuracy. Military instructors learned in its use offer special courses to members of the Special Forces and it is then normal to assume that most if not all of them who are issued this shovel are skilled in different throwing techniques. As for those who bought this magnificent tool online or commercially using other local sources, training when it comes to throwing can be provided by instructors available online. There is no more secrets to its use and those wanting to get a hold of this tool can do so at anytime they prefer with its full potential fully explored in detail.

Spetsnaz Shovel Review

Even after many years of usage, this survival tool can retain its sharpness and functionality. It shows no sign of wear off, the most of which are ordinary scratches. It is also being considered by users as a dependable device at home. Knives and guns which are intended for protection need special storage place at home while bats are too obvious a protective weapon. But Spetsnaz shovel is disguised as an ordinary tool and can be placed strategically at home without the intruders realizing that it is a deadly weapon. It can be put in the car or even carried in backpacks by those travelling on foot and wanting to go hiking.

Many who have availed of this unique tool have high praises for it and swear that is one of the most worthy acquisition that they have made as compared to other supposedly multi-purpose tool in its class. The list of satisfied clients is growing and it is actually hard to find anyone who bought this product and had misgivings later on. Rave reviews continue to be made when it comes to its versatility and it is no wonder that some of its competitors are now struggling in the market owing to the fact that the Spetsnaz shovel has overtaken them in terms of sales and popularity. Those wanting to get a chance to own a piece of this excellent implement can do so by visiting online stores and there are many to choose from


@Koovie


Here's Proof. The Krav Maga instructor got fuck3d.
 
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Shaolin originated in India.



The Spetsnaz shovel is a smallmetal hand tool and is one of the most popular and specialized weapons of the elite Russian Special Forces. For trained soldiers, it is not just a simple shovel or spade used for digging, but it serves several functions from hand to hand combat as a sharp weapon and as a shield, up to even deflecting a fast moving bullet. It has sharpened edges which make it a deadly weapon, although there are no documented reports that it was used for actual combat in recent times.

What is Spetsnaz? The Russian army Special Forces were originally called the Spetsnaz. They are regarded as the elite best trained force of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This group is deployed on special missions like counter terrorism attacks and for highly skilled operations including assassinations, sabotage and stealing vital information from the enemies. Their training includes extreme physical and mental endurance exercises, and they are considered the counter part of the elite US Navy Seals and the Delta Force of United Kingdom.

Cold Steel Special Forces Shovel

Cold Steel is a company committed to provide its customers the world’s sharpest and strongest knives. It has been serving its customers for over 30 years now through online purchasing, and mail and phone ordering only. Among its best products is its Cold Steel Special Forces Shovel. It is almost an exact replica of the original Soviet Spetsnaz special shovel. The only difference is Cold Steel used tougher steel which was heat treated for optimum strength and hard wood handle. It is designed for multiple functions such as machete, paddle, axe, hammer, hatchet, and cleaver. It is also very effective for digging and dredging and very easy to throw. This shovel can be a very fierce weapon during emergency cases as it is only 19.7” long and weighs 26.6 oz.

This Soviet Russian Spetsnaz Shovel is available in special discounted sale of up to 46% at certain online stores. Cold Steel and Best Glide Aviation and Survival Equipments and eBay are accepting orders through their online stores. Free Super Saver shipping is also being offered by Amazon.com for purchases over $25. Customers then can choose which among the available dealers can best satisfy their requirements when it comes to deciding where to buy Spetsnaz Shovel online.

Spestnaz Shovel Fighting

In a warfare training of Spetsnaz soldiers, it is of vital importance to focus on the fighter’s ability to take on a hand-to-hand combat. Their expertise in how to use hand-held weapons and different devices and tools such as the shovel is very important. This tool is basic component of a regular outfit and, it is a ferocious and dependable a weapon in a close combat. Spesnatz shovel fighting can be deadly if trained fighters are engaged. This weapon can even surpass the striking powerand the range of a combat knife. And because it is lightweight, it can be effective in both close and middle distance combat. It is not only useful in actual combat but also an effective self-defense technique.

Spetsnaz Shovel Throwing

The Spetsnaz shovel is an outstanding throwing implement. In the hands of the initiated, it could be a very potent and lethal weapon enough to stop any opponent in his tracks. Distance range can be up to 10 meters or even more if made by a well-trained expert. The shovel itself is especially designed aerodynamically to be thrown and hit the target with ample accuracy. The weight balance between the handle and the blade makes it perfect for throwing and this is one feature that comes in handy especially in close quarter combat. It is then no wonder that from a simple multi-tasking implement, the Spetsnaz shovel has evolved into an important accessory for combat training by elite forces around the world.

When it comes to throwing, this important combat accessory requires muscle power and target accuracy. Military instructors learned in its use offer special courses to members of the Special Forces and it is then normal to assume that most if not all of them who are issued this shovel are skilled in different throwing techniques. As for those who bought this magnificent tool online or commercially using other local sources, training when it comes to throwing can be provided by instructors available online. There is no more secrets to its use and those wanting to get a hold of this tool can do so at anytime they prefer with its full potential fully explored in detail.

Spetsnaz Shovel Review

Even after many years of usage, this survival tool can retain its sharpness and functionality. It shows no sign of wear off, the most of which are ordinary scratches. It is also being considered by users as a dependable device at home. Knives and guns which are intended for protection need special storage place at home while bats are too obvious a protective weapon. But Spetsnaz shovel is disguised as an ordinary tool and can be placed strategically at home without the intruders realizing that it is a deadly weapon. It can be put in the car or even carried in backpacks by those travelling on foot and wanting to go hiking.

Many who have availed of this unique tool have high praises for it and swear that is one of the most worthy acquisition that they have made as compared to other supposedly multi-purpose tool in its class. The list of satisfied clients is growing and it is actually hard to find anyone who bought this product and had misgivings later on. Rave reviews continue to be made when it comes to its versatility and it is no wonder that some of its competitors are now struggling in the market owing to the fact that the Spetsnaz shovel has overtaken them in terms of sales and popularity. Those wanting to get a chance to own a piece of this excellent implement can do so by visiting online stores and there are many to choose from


@Koovie


Here's Proof.


Dont believe everything you hear on the internet. Copy and pasting articles without any reference is not proof.

And the video you posted is the typical staged fight where the attackers are stupid and come at him one by one.

Nobody uses shovels to deflect bullets. Do you know the force behind a bullet fired from a modern fire arm? Even if you were holding a armour plate and the shooter is aiming for it (which is already utter BS) you could not bear the force of impact with your arms.

Those are cold war myths and the reason why the Spetznaz never denied or confirmed those myths is appear more mysterious.

Stop learning things about combat from movies and myths.

Shaolin originated in India.


Does that matter?

Or do you want that Indian military members start to practice shaolin tricks :lol: ?
 
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Dont believe everything you hear on the internet. Copy and pasting articles without any reference is not proof.

And the video you posted is the typical staged fight where the attackers are stupid and come at him one by one.

Nobody uses shovels to deflect bullets. Do you know the force behind a bullet fired from a modern fire arm? Even if you were holding a armour plate and the shooter is aiming for it (which is already utter BS) you could not bear the force of impact with your arms.

Those are cold war myths and the reason why the Spetznaz never denied or confirmed those myths is appear more mysterious.

Stop learning things about combat from movies and myths.

The spetsnaz are monsters.They allegedly train in place where pig blood and entrails are thrown all over the obstacle course. If a so called "politically correct" chick would join under pressure from lobby, her body would found raped and mutilated at main gate and the commandant wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Shocking and disgusting but true, very true.

ВОЕННАЯ ЛИТЕРАТУРА --[ Исследования ]-- Suvorov V. Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS
 
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You cant make such blunt statements.

Anyone who learns a martial art or fighting technique will tell you that his is the best.

Put one of those MMA fighters against a Krav Maga master instructor and you will see the result :lol:



And Ninjas can catch arrows with their fingers :lol:

Wait are you serious?
I Tell you because i learnt mma for sometime and yeah krav maga is good, but MMA includes a variety mix of styles it takes out the best out of every style and includes it.
The fighters train in many styles.So there is no fixed one style wins all thing here.
The krav maga is similar to sambo of russia and MMA.While MMA doesn't include eye goughs grabbing genitals etc.In a competition
Mixed Martial Arts include all of them.
Have you ever trained for MMA?
I would say even a krav maga instructor might not win against some good MMA fighters.

 
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What kind of stone age mentality is that?

A woman who wants to serve in the military cannot be given the chance to do it because of her gender?!

The morons who say that women should stay at home in a kitchen use the same kind of nonsensical argument

Why do you over-sensitive male feminists jump to the conclusion that a woman who isn't let to jump in to do a man's job, should be confined to the kitchen?

There are historic reasons why women are not an imminent part of full blown combat scenarios. This includes physical considerations.

This is not a stupid corporate office where people sitting in ties and suits in plush AC rooms are using their heads on a report or probably a sales target.

We are talking about a bloody war zone.

Not just infantry but spec ops.

Picture a 5'8" (I am being liberal with female dimensions which is much lesser in our country on an average) woman, equipped to the boot with battle gear along with male soldiers, rushing through a hail of bullets and artillery from the other side. Suddenly, her male comrade is shot and severely injured. She's in the middle of a dense tropical surrounding where she has only herself and her 10 team members spread out in the region. Her partner is injured and she is almost surrounded in a fight, with only one way to go: back.

What gives you the faintest inkling that she'd be able to carry a 85-90+ Kg man with 40 Kg of equipment on him that too in a semi-conscious state all while shooting through the barrage of bullets, avoiding trees, thorns etc in a dangerous terrain?

Well my experience, observations and constant interaction with the military folks and their drills states NO. It is because that is not what a woman's body is built for.

It will simply be stupid to assume that just for the sake of grandiose and the idiotic neo-liberal mentality, we put a woman's life in danger by putting her in full blown combative situations.

Women do serve in army and in very capable roles that require them to even take up a semi-combat role. But that is in a specific service commission basis.

See, it is simply practicality.

A woman's body can endure much more internal pain like childbirth, than a male counterpart. But her external endurance is limited. It is not something inferior or superior. It is simply nature.

Women are welcome in armed forces to contribute to the skill but a full blown frontline role to command and lead wars is a silly and strange move by the Army.
 
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Using animal blood, guts or flesh is a common practice to harden soldiers.

it is done nowhere else. Spetsnaz are pure demons.

Delta Force are like babies compared to them. Only Marcos are a bit cruel. They ask you to raise a dog and you have to kill it to graduate.

No Mercy!

Why do you over-sensitive male feminists jump to the conclusion that a woman who isn't let to jump in to do a man's job, should be confined to the kitchen?

There are historic reasons why women are not an imminent part of full blown combat scenarios. This includes physical considerations.

This is not a stupid corporate office where people sitting in ties and suits in plush AC rooms are using their heads on a report or probably a sales target.

We are talking about a bloody war zone.

Not just infantry but spec ops.

Picture a 5'8" (I am being liberal with female dimensions which is much lesser in our country on an average) woman, equipped to the boot with battle gear along with male soldiers, rushing through a hail of bullets and artillery from the other side. Suddenly, her male comrade is shot and severely injured. She's in the middle of a dense tropical surrounding where she has only herself and her 10 team members spread out in the region. Her partner is injured and she is almost surrounded in a fight, with only one way to go: back.

What gives you the faintest inkling that she'd be able to carry a 85-90+ Kg man with 40 Kg of equipment on him that too in a semi-conscious state all while shooting through the barrage of bullets, avoiding trees, thorns etc in a dangerous terrain?

Well my experience, observations and constant interaction with the military folks and their drills states NO. It is because that is not what a woman's body is built for.

It will simply be stupid to assume that just for the sake of grandiose and the idiotic neo-liberal mentality, we put a woman's life in danger by putting her in full blown combative situations.

Women do serve in army and in very capable roles that require them to even take up a semi-combat role. But that is in a specific service commission basis.

See, it is simply practicality.

A woman's body can endure much more internal pain like childbirth, than a male counterpart. But her external endurance is limited. It is not something inferior or superior. It is simply nature.

Women are welcome in armed forces to contribute to the skill but a full blown frontline role to command and lead wars is a silly and strange move by the Army.
Why do you over-sensitive male feminists jump to the conclusion that a woman who isn't let to jump in to do a man's job, should be confined to the kitchen?

There are historic reasons why women are not an imminent part of full blown combat scenarios. This includes physical considerations.

This is not a stupid corporate office where people sitting in ties and suits in plush AC rooms are using their heads on a report or probably a sales target.

We are talking about a bloody war zone.

Not just infantry but spec ops.

Picture a 5'8" (I am being liberal with female dimensions which is much lesser in our country on an average) woman, equipped to the boot with battle gear along with male soldiers, rushing through a hail of bullets and artillery from the other side. Suddenly, her male comrade is shot and severely injured. She's in the middle of a dense tropical surrounding where she has only herself and her 10 team members spread out in the region. Her partner is injured and she is almost surrounded in a fight, with only one way to go: back.

What gives you the faintest inkling that she'd be able to carry a 85-90+ Kg man with 40 Kg of equipment on him that too in a semi-conscious state all while shooting through the barrage of bullets, avoiding trees, thorns etc in a dangerous terrain?

Well my experience, observations and constant interaction with the military folks and their drills states NO. It is because that is not what a woman's body is built for.

It will simply be stupid to assume that just for the sake of grandiose and the idiotic neo-liberal mentality, we put a woman's life in danger by putting her in full blown combative situations.

Women do serve in army and in very capable roles that require them to even take up a semi-combat role. But that is in a specific service commission basis.

See, it is simply practicality.

A woman's body can endure much more internal pain like childbirth, than a male counterpart. But her external endurance is limited. It is not something inferior or superior. It is simply nature.

Women are welcome in armed forces to contribute to the skill but a full blown frontline role to command and lead wars is a silly and strange move by the Army.


Don't forget the weight she must carry. The lower bone density and low testrostone levels.
 
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I Tell you because i learnt mma for sometime and yeah krav maga is good, but MMA includes a variety mix of styles it takes out the best out of every style and includes it.
The fighters train in many styles.So there is no fixed one style wins all thing here.
The krav maga is similar to sambo of russia and MMA.While MMA doesn't include eye goughs grabbing genitals etc.In a competition
Mixed Martial Arts include all of them.
Have you ever trained for MMA?
I would say even a krav maga instructor might not win against some good MMA fighters.


Krav Maga is like a open cooking pot, everything that works in a situation comes in and unlike MMA KM is not bound to any restrictions. While KM for military units even teach you techniques to seriously injure/kill your opponent. Something that a MMA fighter does not learn. Besides, a KM instructor who has served in combat and is used to live and death situations will be tougher than a competitive MMA fighter who knows "combat" only from competitions. He knows that rules, a referee and the fact that his opponent does not want to kill him will protect him!


What do you think will you prove with that video ? ^^ :rolleyes:
 
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A woman's body can endure much more internal pain like childbirth, than a male counterpart. But her external endurance is limited. It is not something inferior or superior. It is simply nature.

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Wrong, during pregnancy many changes take place in the body of a female and many endorphins( pain killers) are released which dull the pain and make it bearable that is due to evolution.
In general, the pain threshold in males is more compared to females.
 
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