With friends like these...

[AmnaR]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=811040708916921

When our OWN Generals, (who was also a corp commander and some big shot in ISI and very close (not in ideology, but in rank) to COAS Musharraf says things like this, how can we blame Taliban Apologists??

Argghhhh

Start with this guy!

 

[Capt.Popeye]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=811040708916921

Link:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=811040708916921

When our OWN Generals, (who was also a corp commander and some big shot in ISI and very close (not in ideology, but in rank) to COAS Musharraf says things like this, how can we blame Taliban Apologists??

Argghhhh

Start with this guy!

Was this Gernail educated in the Lal Masjid?

 

[AmnaR]

Was this Gernail educated in the Lal Masjid?

On the contrary, I think Lal Masjid buggers must have been taught by him

 

[pakdefender]

Keep spinning stories , all you SOBs are going to get it up your rumps

 

[Capt.Popeye]

On the contrary, I think Lal Masjid buggers must have been taught by him

Will this Gernail now have the "guts" now to stand in front of the families of the children and soldiers massacred in the Army Public School; and repeat what he says here in the recording?????

Will he say the same thing to the near and dear ones of late Mme.Tahira Qazi, the Principal; who bravely confronted the Savages who attacked her school-children?

@AmnaR; this shows how far and high the rot can rise. It is good that you have exposed him now, so the people of Pakistan can identify who the "enemies within" are. Now they can try to run, but will not be able to hide!

 

[Meengla]

I get the 'other side' POV: Pak military doing operations in FATA since about the mid 2000's and there are unfortunate 'collateral damage' of women/children in FATA. No can be be smug about the losses. But what these Haram Khor 'Gernail' doesn't tell you is that FATA has been infested with some very bad people for quite a long time and in post 9/11 world it was not possible to ignore them. Why should damn Uzbek organization find sanctuary in FATA to carry out terrorism in other countries?!
Pakistan needs an Ata Turk to ruthlessly clean Pakistan of these demented $ucks!

 

[Not Sure]

Let us try to be objective, and entertain his point of view for a minute.

First, he does concede that terrorists from FATA go to Afghanistan to attack the Americans.

Lekin Jarnail saa'b, aap ke mulk se terrorist jaa rahe hain to unko rokne ki bhi zimmedari aap hi ki banti hai. Amrikka koi India nahi hai ki Hafiz Saeed ki demand le ke chillata rahe, vo seedhe aapke ghar me ghus ke maarte aur duniya tamasha dekhti. How conveniently he forgets what kind of sentiments had begun to emanate from the US after Faizal Shahzad attempt, which hadn't even claimed a single life.

Second, he suddenly sounds so delighted, that let the US come to FATA and it would be another quagmire for the US.

Nahi Jarnail saa'b, American boots in FATA would have meant way worse for entire Pakistan, including its economy. Shayad bhool gaye Jarnail saa'b ki 9/11 ke baad issi Amrikka ne Taliban ko ek mahine ke andar-andar ghutno pe kaise tikaya tha - baghair ek goli chalaye. Pakistan ka isse bhi bura haal hota - would have been worse than stone age, and in comparison today's tragedy would have seemed like a walk in the park. Aur US FATA me aa jaaye, to Pakistan Army kya FATA se baahar Islamabad ke paas aa ke baith jayegi? Kyonki Pakistan Army ko to FATA khali karna hi padta, nahi to fir 10x Salala roz ki roz hota!

Third, he says that media is not neutral, as it shows casualties done by the Taliban and not by the Pakistani Army.

To aap kiski taraf hain Jarnail saa'b, Pakistan ki taraf ya Taliban ki taraf? Kyonki Lahore ke dhamake Taliban karta hai, aur Taliban stronghold me casualty Pakistani Army ki taraf se hoti hai.

And as far as "apne haathon apne bachchon ka katal..." - Jarnail saa'b koi bhi jaan boojh kar apne haath khoon se nahi rangna chaahta hai. Jab aapke bachcho ke saamne koi doosra chhota bachcha suicide belt laga ke pahuchega, to aap kya karenge, usko goli marenge ya baith ke puchkarenge, ki aao beta tumhe naseehat deta hoon?

Aur sabse badi baat Jarnail saa'b, ye Uzbek aur Tajik aur Chechen aap ke bachche kab se ban gaye? Kyon ki TTP ki taraf se Pakistan ke andar to yahi sab attack kar rahe hain.


"Aap Amrikka ke front line supporter ho Musalmano ke katl-o-ghairat me..." - Arre Jarnail saa'b, agar ma ka doodh piya hai to yahi baat kissi Saudi ko jaa ke boliye, kyon ki Saudi Arabia to aap se dus kadam aage hai is maamle me. Jo waqai me Muslamaano ko katl karne me mulawwis hai, pehle usko boliye jaa ke. Kyonki is maamle me TTP, Taliban, aur Saudi Arabia sabse aage hai.


"Aur neutral rehte to kya, 8-9 drone hamle kiye Amrikka ne Abdulla Mehsud ko maarne ke liye, aur kya..." - Itne bade Jarnail ho ke aap baat chhipaate hain sir ji, sharm se doob marna chahiye aap ko. Amrikka full tayyar tha Karachi, Quetta, aur Lahore me drone attack karne ke liye! Saari duniya ko pata hai ye baat. Kya kar liya aap ne jab vo Abbotabad aaye to?

Aur Jarnail saa'b, andar ki baat bhi sabko pata hai ki Army aur AirForce ko poori ittala thi ki Amrikkan helis aa rahe hain, aur unhone samajhdari dikhai aur kuchh nahi kaha aur Amrikka ko chup chap OBL ke yahan aa ke nikal jaane diya - har koi aap jaisa Smart Alec nahi hai na.


At first I thought the OP just got hyper emotional to say such a thing about a General... but this guy represents nothing but hypocrisy.

 

[FaujHistorian]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=811040708916921

When our OWN Generals, (who was also a corp commander and some big shot in ISI and very close (not in ideology, but in rank) to COAS Musharraf says things like this, how can we blame Taliban Apologists??

Argghhhh

Start with this guy!

He is a pathetic retired Mullah

Yes more of Mullah than a true general.

We have some retired babas (luckily handful) who ate our taxpayers' money during their army jobs

Then they retire and become Jihadis.

Sadly.

 

[VCheng]

He is a pathetic retired Mullah

Yes more of Mullah than a true general.

We have some retired babas (luckily handful) who ate our taxpayers' money during their army jobs

Then they retire and become Jihadis.

Sadly.

Thoughts such as these are no longer in a minority in Pakistan. That is the bitter reality.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Thoughts such as these are no longer in a minority in Pakistan. That is the bitter reality.

so they are majority?

 

[VCheng]

so they are majority?

Yes. Just like the nurtured snakes turned on their masters, the fanned anti-Americanism will blow back on those seen to support the Americans by the public at large.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Pathetic and disgusting.

Thoughts such as these are no longer in a minority in Pakistan. That is the bitter reality.

True, a few different reactions we're seeing to this massacre, of which one is to blame the government for involving itself in a war they wish to disown. Blame Amreeka, blame India, blame Liechtenstein, just don't blame us.

Though I think for the first time the moderate and liberals are louder than ever and their words coming through to some, just nothing drastic.

@Secur That discussion we were having about this class of people.

 

[VCheng]

Pathetic and disgusting.


True, a few different reactions we're seeing to this massacre, of which one is to blame the government for involving itself in a war they wish to disown. Blame Amreeka, blame India, blame Liechtenstein, just don't blame us.

Though I think for the first time the moderate and liberals are louder than ever and their words coming through to some, just nothing drastic.

@Secur That discussion we were having about this class of people.

The problem will not be solved by disowning it at this late stage. Now it has entered deep inside the realm and will be resolved only by a terminal solution, however long it takes.

 

[Meengla]

Let us try to be objective, and entertain his point of view for a minute.

First, he does concede that terrorists from FATA go to Afghanistan to attack the Americans.

Lekin Jarnail saa'b, aap ke mulk se terrorist jaa rahe hain to unko rokne ki bhi zimmedari aap hi ki banti hai. Amrikka koi India nahi hai ki Hafiz Saeed ki demand le ke chillata rahe, vo seedhe aapke ghar me ghus ke maarte aur duniya tamasha dekhti. How conveniently he forgets what kind of sentiments had begun to emanate from the US after Faizal Shahzad attempt, which hadn't even claimed a single life..

Please try to post this in English; your post is worth reading by the larger audience. Even for a fluent Urdu speaker like me reading so much transliteration is not easy in one post.
Thanks.!

 

[Not Sure]

Please try to post this in English; your post is worth reading by the larger audience. Even for a fluent Urdu speaker like me reading so much transliteration is not easy in one post.
Thanks.!

Thanks man, I'll try. That feeling came out in Urdu.