Will Vietnam become the next ‘world’s factory’ as production moves away from China?

[Viva_Viet]

LOL. VN is not China's enemy lol. Look at how much stuff VN buys and sells to China.

Just because we have a dispute in SCS doesn't mean Vietnam is special. China has disputes with other countries is SCS too lol.

We mainly buy stuff from CN and sell to EU-US for money.

And more CN investment in VN will make CNese fishmen get harder lives cos VN will build more guard ships ( money to build ship come from CN investment) to spray water on them

CN investors r killing poor Cnese fishermen, dude.

 

[Pepsi Cola]

Fdi in the first 3 months is $11 billion. Up 86 percent. That’s not insignificant! Usually Q1 is weak because of many holidays.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-03/27/c_137927383.htm


China claim bases on hearsay of a Ming eunuch. That’s lesson for Vietnam and others. Never invite a chinese eunuch to your houses!

It is still pretty small in terms of real numbers. The Chinese economy has also been doing well recently, especially since the start of this year, so this makes sense. China also cut FDI to EU and USA by huge amounts

"In 2018, Chinese FDI in the United States fell to just $4.8 billion — a massive decline from $29 billion in 2017 and $46 billion in 2016, according to independent researcher the Rhodium Group.


The 2018 figure marks a 90 percent drop from 2016 and represents the lowest level of direct investment by China since 2011, according to the group’s data."

That money has to go somewhere and Vietnam is a relatively promising place.

We mainly buy stuff from CN and sell to EU-US for money.

And more CN investment in VN will make CNese fishmen get harder lives cos VN will build more guard ships ( money to build ship come from CN investment) to spray water on them

CN investors r killing poor Cnese fishermen, dude.

1. That's because your manufacturing is immature. When can Vietnam build iPhones? LOL
2. Sure if you'd put more money on coast guard ships that can spray water LOL. In the meantime, Chinese coast guard ships already have lasers!

 

[Viet]

It is still pretty small in terms of real numbers. The Chinese economy has also been doing well recently, especially since the start of this year, so this makes sense. China also cut FDI to EU and USA by huge amounts

"In 2018, Chinese FDI in the United States fell to just $4.8 billion — a massive decline from $29 billion in 2017 and $46 billion in 2016, according to independent researcher the Rhodium Group.


The 2018 figure marks a 90 percent drop from 2016 and represents the lowest level of direct investment by China since 2011, according to the group’s data."

That money has to go somewhere and Vietnam is a relatively promising place.



1. That's because your manufacturing is immature. When can Vietnam build iPhones? LOL
2. Sure if you'd put more money on coast guard ships that can spray water LOL. In the meantime, Chinese coast guard ships already have lasers!

Not small in percentage of VN gdp. CN investment in VN is extremely small, comparing to CN gdp, with most concentrated on making low end products as textiles, garments. Hightech Investment as we see with Korean companies is non existent.

Interestingly,lately there is a wave of rich chinese buying top end properties in southern parts as Saigon, Danang. As if they want to bring money to a safe harbor.

 

[Viva_Viet]

1. That's because your manufacturing is immature. When can Vietnam build iPhones? LOL
2. Sure if you'd put more money on coast guard ships that can spray water LOL. In the meantime, Chinese coast guard ships already have lasers!

1. CN investors in VN r helping us to boost the manufacturing sectors
2.Laser ?? man, buy fuel first

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CN economy is so bad now, so they dont have enough money to keep playing water cannon game wt VN anymore.

CN ships got sprayed by VN guard ship in this month Apr

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/south-china-sea-forum.196058/page-799

 

[cochine]

Kid, you are too stupid... This is what we called war...Your Russian daddy was also occupied by Germany... Let alone your French master...

Why you have talking about enemies of Vietnam like stupid boy , it was in the military conflicts or world war too. Hitler and Napoleon was cheated by Russian. by offensive re-attack, Russian can go to Berlin, both Napoleon and Hitler was arrested or killed by his people.

In Vietnam, when France 60 million population, with huge money and Colonie legion Armies ... when Vietnam has only 8 million in 19 century and 25 millon in 1945, and USA with over 300 millions population on top economy of the world in Vietnam war.

Problem here is this that China has 600 million, Japan had only 120 million, but Japan can take your land and laugh on you. Note that Russian liberated you from Japan and handed Manchu Kuo to Mao Zedong.

Its shamefully for China.

 

[Pepsi Cola]

Not small in percentage of VN gdp. CN investment in VN is extremely small, comparing to CN gdp, with most concentrated on making low end products as textiles, garments. Hightech Investment as we see with Korean companies is non existent.

Interestingly,lately there is a wave of rich chinese buying top end properties in southern parts as Saigon, Danang. As if they want to bring money to a safe harbor.

But you were the one who said that the number is "not insignificant", and now you're saying it's not really that much? No matter what China spends way more on FDI to other countries than to Vietnam. The thing about China is that it is moving on to Hightech manufacturing and it is leaving low-level manufacturing for countries like Vietnam.

Chinese buy properties everywhere all the time, not just in Vietnam.

The world is not just Vietnam lol.

1. CN investors in VN r helping us to boost the manufacturing sectors
2.Laser ?? man, buy fuel first

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CN economy is so bad now, so they dont have enough money to keep playing water cannon game wt VN anymore.

CN ships got sprayed by VN guard ship in this month Apr

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/south-china-sea-forum.196058/page-799

LOL. You keep posting a VN Coast Guard boat spraying a larger Chinese fishing boat like its a triumph XD. In the meantime, China just sinks Vietnamese fishing boats.

 

[rott]

when tariff is 25% to Cn products, then VN products will be cheaper.

So, its depend on when US will slap 25% tariff on CN, CN is useless country, she cant decide if the factories still stay in CN or not.

Now go make my shoes instead of flapping your lips here.

Actually u guys here nid a doctor when they keep begging ppl talking wt u guys in far east section cos we dont come to CN defence forum to read your posts

Do I wanna talk wt u?? clearly No, I dont.

You clearly are talking more than the Chinese members in here.

FUNNY, this thread is opened by @TaiShang.
You are the one who STRAYED onto this thread UNINVITED.
You are the one BEGGING to COMMENT HERE.
Your BEGGING BEHAVIOR is one of AGENT ORANGE BRAIN DAMAGE symptom.
You need A DOCTOR QUICK.
.

Hahahahahaha... @sinait this guy Viva_Viet is hilarious.
oh! my stomach.

 

[Viet]

But you were the one who said that the number is "not insignificant", and now you're saying it's not really that much? No matter what China spends way more on FDI to other countries than to Vietnam. The thing about China is that it is moving on to Hightech manufacturing and it is leaving low-level manufacturing for countries like Vietnam.

Chinese buy properties everywhere all the time, not just in Vietnam.

The world is not just Vietnam lol.



LOL. You keep posting a VN Coast Guard boat spraying a larger Chinese fishing boat like its a triumph XD. In the meantime, China just sinks Vietnamese fishing boats.

No. You are the one that starts with insignificant bla bla. CN moving to hightech or highmoon does not interest anybody in VN. Keep it to yourself!

 

[Viva_Viet]

LOL. You keep posting a VN Coast Guard boat spraying a larger Chinese fishing boat like its a triumph XD. In the meantime, China just sinks Vietnamese fishing boats.

It shows the problem that CN economy is so bad now, so they dont have enough money to keep playing water cannon game wt VN anymore while VN guard got more and more money tks to CN investors sending lots of $$$$ they rob and steal from CN to VN.

For "China just sinks Vietnamese fishing boats", u dont know what really happened, when and where. just try to post nonesense thing to save face. Pathetic loser

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CN Out of the $244 trillion, government debt was tallied at $65.2 trillion, non-financial corporate debt stood at $72.9 trillion dollars and financial sector debt was $60 trillion dollars, while households owe $46.1 trillion dollars.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/samsung-electronics-vietnamese-subsidiaries-thriving.612717/

 

[Kai Liu]

Why you have talking about enemies of Vietnam like stupid boy , it was in the military conflicts or world war too. Hitler and Napoleon was cheated by Russian. by offensive re-attack, Russian can go to Berlin, both Napoleon and Hitler was arrested or killed by his people.

In Vietnam, when France 60 million population, with huge money and Colonie legion Armies ... when Vietnam has only 8 million in 19 century and 25 millon in 1945, and USA with over 300 millions population on top economy of the world in Vietnam war.

Problem here is this that China has 600 million, Japan had only 120 million, but Japan can take your land and laugh on you. Note that Russian liberated you from Japan and handed Manchu Kuo to Mao Zedong.

Its shamefully for China.

The problem for you is you do not even realize that vn is a colony for majority of times either by China by France or by Japan during the past 2,000 years...I am not exaggerating, vn is nothing without the support of USSR, China during the vietnam war... Check your arsenal today, you are still using these weapons supported by these powers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Vietnam_People's_Ground_Forces

 

[cochine]

The problem for you is you do not even realize that vn is a colony for majority of times either by China by France or by Japan during the past 2,000 years...I am not exaggerating, vn is nothing without the support of USSR, China during the vietnam war... Check your arsenal today, you are still using these weapons supported by these powers:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Vietnam_People's_Ground_Forces

Vietnamese people ís grateful to Soviet Union and other socialist countries people, who helped Vietnm in diffical time òf Vietnam war. When Vietnam was member of Socialist Pack 12 countries.

I have stated many time here in this form that: China did help with your dirty intention to get the position to follow negotiations with your new master in cold war, in back of us.

1. China invited Nixon to Peking 1972, 1974 China robbed Paracel Islands of Vietnam. Its reported that China signed with American in Shanghai document, it is stated that the situation in the region will be unchanged. Its mean that China will keep Vietnam is still divided like Korea peninsula.

2. Deng Xiaoping visited Washington 1979, and 2/1979 China invaded in to Vietnam, to demonstrated yourselves to your new master. Chinese had killed many Vietnamese when you invaded in to our land in 1979.

So China did such help just to get position to negociate with your new master America in back of us, like China did with France in 1954 in Geneva, no more.

Russian and other people in East Europa helped Vietnam very much too. But they don't calculated like Chinese politic smuggler here in this time.

 

[Kai Liu]

Vietnamese people ís grateful to Soviet Union and other socialist countries people, who helped Vietnm in diffical time òf Vietnam war. When Vietnam was member of Socialist Pack 12 countries.

I have stated many time here in this form that: China did help with your dirty intention to get the position to follow negotiations with your new master in cold war, in back of us.

1. China invited Nixon to Peking 1972, 1974 China robbed Paracel Islands of Vietnam. Its reported that China signed with American in Shanghai document, it is stated that the situation in the region will be unchanged. Its mean that China will keep Vietnam is still divided like Korea peninsula.

2. Deng Xiaoping visited Washington 1979, and 2/1979 China invaded in to Vietnam, to demonstrated yourselves to your new master. Chinese had killed many Vietnamese when you invaded in to our land in 1979.

So China did such help just to get position to negociate with your new master America in back of us, like China did with France in 1954 in Geneva, no more.

Russian and other people in East Europa helped Vietnam very much too. But they don't calculated like Chinese politic smuggler here in this time.

VCP told you this...
The reality is you chose a then richer and more powerful soviet union as your master instead of China, thinking it will give you better support... But unfortunately for you, and fortunately for us, soviet collapsed 20 years later, and China replaced soviet union as America's biggest rival, as stated by Trump multiple times:

However, this is just the tragedy of you small tiny nation: you have to make choices...

 

[cochine]

VCP told you this...
The reality is you chose a then richer and more powerful soviet union as your master instead of China, thinking it will give you better support... But unfortunately for you, and fortunately for us, soviet collapsed 20 years later, and China replaced soviet union as America's biggest rival, as stated by Trump multiple times:

However, this is just the tragedy of you small tiny nation: you have to make choices...

You admitted what I said above, China betrayed Soviet Union bcz China would like to take position of Russian ... hihi, you are ambitious man, but I can tell you that, without Russian in back,China will be collapsed under press of American now... Look at ! How Trumpt apply tariff on you ...

We have our choices from long time ago:the independence and freedom as Ho Chi Minh said.

 

[Pepsi Cola]

No. You are the one that starts with insignificant bla bla. CN moving to hightech or highmoon does not interest anybody in VN. Keep it to yourself!

I don't think so.

Yours truly...

Okay, enough trash talk, lets back to the topic.Even Chinese also try to run away from CN now to avoid Trade war. @TaiShang : even Cnese say bye bye to CN now.
Google translate

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China tops FDI investors in Vietnam in the first quarter of 2019

Vietnam macroeconomic report in the first quarter of 2019 of the Institute of Economic and Policy Research (VEPR) has just announced that the total investment capital of the foreign-invested enterprises (FDI) increased 7.52% compared to the same period last year. New registered capital reached 3.82 billion USD, increased by 80.1%. Additional capital also increased by 1.3 billion USD.

According to VEPR, China has risen to become Vietnam's largest foreign investor in the first quarter of 2019 with a total capital of 723.2 million USD. The next positions belong to Singapore with 690.8 million USD, South Korea 547.3 million USD, Hong Kong 456.4 million USD.

The rise of FDI from China has been assessed to partly realize the forecasts of many experts in the past on the shift of investment capital into Vietnam to avoid US-CN trade tension and the CPTPP agreement.


As a neighboring country, China is now not only the largest trading partner but also Vietnam's largest investment partner in the first quarter of 2019. Associate Prof. Dr. Pham The Anh, VEPR's chief economist, said that this would have a great impact on Vietnam's economy.

Accordingly, China's FDI role to Vietnam in addition to its positive sources of capital, job creation and contribution to growth, massive investment from neighboring countries can also entail much. environmental risks and foreign labor management.

Mr. The Anh said that not only Vietnamese enterprises but also Chinese enterprises in Vietnam are now in part to take advantage of the opportunities that Vietnam has when participating in such free trade agreements. gender.

http://baodatviet.vn/kinh-te/thi-truong/trung-quoc-thanh-nha-dau-tu-lon-nhat-tai-viet-nam-3378091/

It shows the problem that CN economy is so bad now, so they dont have enough money to keep playing water cannon game wt VN anymore while VN guard got more and more money tks to CN investors sending lots of $$$$ they rob and steal from CN to VN.

For "China just sinks Vietnamese fishing boats", u dont know what really happened, when and where. just try to post nonesense thing to save face. Pathetic loser

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CN Out of the $244 trillion, government debt was tallied at $65.2 trillion, non-financial corporate debt stood at $72.9 trillion dollars and financial sector debt was $60 trillion dollars, while households owe $46.1 trillion dollars.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/samsung-electronics-vietnamese-subsidiaries-thriving.612717/

LOL. CHINESE ECONOMY IS DOING WELL, AND BETTER THAN THE US. Words are that US GDP Q1 is just about 0% because of the government shutdown. A lot of holidays indeed!

"

• China reported first-quarter 2018 GDP growth of 6.8 percent, topping expectations.
• Analysts polled by Reuters had expected first-quarter 2018 GDP growth at 6.7 percent, which would have been a tick down from 6.8 percent in the fourth quarter of 2017."

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/16/chi...rts-first-quarter-gross-domestic-product.html

"J.P. Morgan on Thursday lowered its tracking estimate on U.S. economic growth in the first quarter as durable goods orders rose less than forecast in December with core capital orders posting a surprise drop.

U.S. gross domestic product likely grew at a 1.50 percent annualized pace in the first three months of the year based on the latest durable goods data, slower than an earlier calculated rate of 1.75 percent, J.P. Morgan economist Michael Feroli wrote in a research note.



J.P. Morgan also reduced its estimate on gross domestic product in the final quarter of 2018 to 1.4 percent from an earlier estimate of 1.6 percent."

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa...us-q1-gdp-growth-view-to-15-pct-idUSL1N20G13M

Chinese cut down US FDI by 90% just so it can feed its BRI and the EU without a hassle!

"The Vietnamese or Kinh people are an Austroasiatic people and originated somewhere in today southern China.[34] From there, several Austroasiatic tribes migrated to Southeast Asia and parts of today Indonesia and eastern India. The early Vietnamese lived in an area of today northern Vietnam and southeastern China. From there they migrated to other parts of Vietnam. Genetic analysis show that they are a mongoloid population closely related to today southern Chinese and other southeast Asians."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people

Vietnam has been a part of China since ancient times!

 

[TaiShang]

China tops FDI investors in Vietnam in the first quarter of 2019

This is one way to make Vietnam more dependent on China. You know, just as business can come in, they may leave, too.

Dependency is good.