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FYI this guy has been debunked many times over and is also a fraud. His claims on the F16 design has been repeatedly shown to be false.
Will Turkey receive F-35 Joint Strike Fighters from The USA?
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FYI this guy has been debunked many times over and is also a fraud. His claims on the F16 design has been repeatedly shown to be false.
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Mattis Urges Congress Not to Hit Turkey With Lockheed F-35 Ban
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has warned Congress against punishing Turkey for its plans to buy a Russian anti-aircraft system by cutting off transfers of Lockheed Martin Corp.’s F-35 jet.
“At this time, I oppose removal of Turkey from the F-35,” Mattis wrote in a previously undisclosed letter this month to lawmakers negotiating fiscal 2019 defense bills. He said a cutoff risks triggering an international “supply chain disruption” that would drive up costs and delay deliveries of the figher.
Senate versions of the defense policy and spending bills would place a hold on F-35 transfers to punish Turkey, a NATO ally, for seeking to buy Russia’s advanced S-400 system and for detaining American pastor Andrew Brunson.
Read more: Trump Calls on Turkish President to Free U.S. Pastor
Mattis reminded lawmakers that Turkey is one of the original eight international partners for the F-35, which is dependent on international as well as U.S. sales. Turkey has invested $1.25 billion in the aircraft’s development phase.
Under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey plans to buy about 100 F-35s, joining the U.K. and Australia as the top international customers. At least 10 Turkish companies are building parts and components, such as the cockpit displays, for other partners, according to Bethesda, Maryland-based Lockheed.
“If the Turkish supply chain was disrupted today, it would result in an aircraft production break, delaying delivery of 50-75 jets and would take approximately 18-24 months to re-source parts” made by Turkish companies, Mattis wrote in a July 7 to House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry. A similar letter was sent the Senate Armed Services panel.
Mattis wrote that he understands and agrees “with congressional concerns about the authoritarian drift in Turkey and its impact on human rights and rule of law,” including Brunson’s confinement, Mattis wrote. “The administration is pressing Turkey on these issues as well as the potential acquisition of the S-400.”
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ress-not-to-hit-turkey-with-lockheed-f-35-ban
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has warned Congress against punishing Turkey for its plans to buy a Russian anti-aircraft system by cutting off transfers of Lockheed Martin Corp.’s F-35 jet.
“At this time, I oppose removal of Turkey from the F-35,” Mattis wrote in a previously undisclosed letter this month to lawmakers negotiating fiscal 2019 defense bills. He said a cutoff risks triggering an international “supply chain disruption” that would drive up costs and delay deliveries of the figher.
Senate versions of the defense policy and spending bills would place a hold on F-35 transfers to punish Turkey, a NATO ally, for seeking to buy Russia’s advanced S-400 system and for detaining American pastor Andrew Brunson.
Read more: Trump Calls on Turkish President to Free U.S. Pastor
Mattis reminded lawmakers that Turkey is one of the original eight international partners for the F-35, which is dependent on international as well as U.S. sales. Turkey has invested $1.25 billion in the aircraft’s development phase.
Under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey plans to buy about 100 F-35s, joining the U.K. and Australia as the top international customers. At least 10 Turkish companies are building parts and components, such as the cockpit displays, for other partners, according to Bethesda, Maryland-based Lockheed.
“If the Turkish supply chain was disrupted today, it would result in an aircraft production break, delaying delivery of 50-75 jets and would take approximately 18-24 months to re-source parts” made by Turkish companies, Mattis wrote in a July 7 to House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry. A similar letter was sent the Senate Armed Services panel.
Mattis wrote that he understands and agrees “with congressional concerns about the authoritarian drift in Turkey and its impact on human rights and rule of law,” including Brunson’s confinement, Mattis wrote. “The administration is pressing Turkey on these issues as well as the potential acquisition of the S-400.”
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ress-not-to-hit-turkey-with-lockheed-f-35-ban
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Final defense bill looks to block F-35s to Turkey, going against Mattis
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Congress in its final version of the fiscal 2019 defense bill is looking to pause sales of F-35 joint strike fighters to Turkey until a new assessment on U.S.-Turkey relations, going against the wishes of Defense Secretary James Mattis.
The Pentagon would be required to submit a report to lawmakers on the "overall strategic relationship with Turkey," all foreign weapons sales to Ankara and Turkey's intended purchase of the Russian-made S-400 long-range air-defense system, House Armed Services Committee senior aides told reporters Monday.
The report would be due within 90 days of the passing of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), during which the Lockheed Martin-made jets would be held from the nation.
Mattis earlier this month asked lawmakers not to block the F-35 sale, warning that it could start a "supply chain disruption" that could push the price of the aircraft higher.
"At this time, I oppose removal of Turkey from the F-35 program," Mattis wrote in a July 7 letter.
"If the Turkish supply chain was disrupted today, it would result in an aircraft production break, delaying delivery of 50-75 F-35s, and would take approximately 18-24 months to re-source parts and recover."
Turkey plans to eventually buy at least 100 F-35 Lightning II fighters under the U.S.-led, multinational Joint Strike Fighter program.
But the Senate, fed up with Turkish aggression, included in its version of the NDAA two provisions targeting Turkey's plans to purchase the F-35. Another provision would have sanctioned Ankara if it went through with the S-400 purchase.
The House version, meanwhile, would have stopped all weapons sales to the nation until the Pentagon analyzes worsening tensions between the two nations.
The aides said they kept a broad version of the Senate language.
A separate but related provision in the final NDAA calls on Turkey "to release wrongfully detained U.S. citizens including Andrew Brunson and Serkan Golge," according to a summary of the bill, the product of negotiations between House and Senate members on their chamber's respective defense authorization legislation.
Brunson, an American pastor, has been detained by the Turkish government for 18 months over accusations that he aided the Kurdistan Workers' Party in a failed coup attempt against President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
Relations between Washington and Ankara have been tense in the past year.
Turkey in December announced it intended to buy the S-400, a sale that worries NATO members because the system is not interoperable with its defense systems. The S-400 and could provide a way to steal F-35 technology should the aircraft be synced with it.
The two governments have also butted heads over Kurdish forces in Syria.
The United States relies on the Kurdish forces in fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and has aided them. But Turkey, which considers them terrorists, seized Afrin, Syria, from Kurdish forces in an offensive that caused a pause in the war against ISIS.
Tensions also flared last year when 15 Turkish security officials were indicted for an attack on protestors outside the Turkish Embassy while Erdogan was in D.C. for a visit with President Trump.
The House is expected to vote on the final NDAA this week, with the Senate to take it up in August.
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BY ELLEN MITCHELL
TWEET SHARE EMAIL
Congress in its final version of the fiscal 2019 defense bill is looking to pause sales of F-35 joint strike fighters to Turkey until a new assessment on U.S.-Turkey relations, going against the wishes of Defense Secretary James Mattis.
The Pentagon would be required to submit a report to lawmakers on the "overall strategic relationship with Turkey," all foreign weapons sales to Ankara and Turkey's intended purchase of the Russian-made S-400 long-range air-defense system, House Armed Services Committee senior aides told reporters Monday.
The report would be due within 90 days of the passing of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), during which the Lockheed Martin-made jets would be held from the nation.
Mattis earlier this month asked lawmakers not to block the F-35 sale, warning that it could start a "supply chain disruption" that could push the price of the aircraft higher.
"At this time, I oppose removal of Turkey from the F-35 program," Mattis wrote in a July 7 letter.
"If the Turkish supply chain was disrupted today, it would result in an aircraft production break, delaying delivery of 50-75 F-35s, and would take approximately 18-24 months to re-source parts and recover."
Turkey plans to eventually buy at least 100 F-35 Lightning II fighters under the U.S.-led, multinational Joint Strike Fighter program.
But the Senate, fed up with Turkish aggression, included in its version of the NDAA two provisions targeting Turkey's plans to purchase the F-35. Another provision would have sanctioned Ankara if it went through with the S-400 purchase.
The House version, meanwhile, would have stopped all weapons sales to the nation until the Pentagon analyzes worsening tensions between the two nations.
The aides said they kept a broad version of the Senate language.
A separate but related provision in the final NDAA calls on Turkey "to release wrongfully detained U.S. citizens including Andrew Brunson and Serkan Golge," according to a summary of the bill, the product of negotiations between House and Senate members on their chamber's respective defense authorization legislation.
Brunson, an American pastor, has been detained by the Turkish government for 18 months over accusations that he aided the Kurdistan Workers' Party in a failed coup attempt against President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
Relations between Washington and Ankara have been tense in the past year.
Turkey in December announced it intended to buy the S-400, a sale that worries NATO members because the system is not interoperable with its defense systems. The S-400 and could provide a way to steal F-35 technology should the aircraft be synced with it.
The two governments have also butted heads over Kurdish forces in Syria.
The United States relies on the Kurdish forces in fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and has aided them. But Turkey, which considers them terrorists, seized Afrin, Syria, from Kurdish forces in an offensive that caused a pause in the war against ISIS.
Tensions also flared last year when 15 Turkish security officials were indicted for an attack on protestors outside the Turkish Embassy while Erdogan was in D.C. for a visit with President Trump.
The House is expected to vote on the final NDAA this week, with the Senate to take it up in August.
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Final defense bill looks to block F-35s to Turkey, going against Mattis
GETTY IMAGES
BY ELLEN MITCHELL
TWEET SHARE EMAIL
Congress in its final version of the fiscal 2019 defense bill is looking to pause sales of F-35 joint strike fighters to Turkey until a new assessment on U.S.-Turkey relations, going against the wishes of Defense Secretary James Mattis.
The Pentagon would be required to submit a report to lawmakers on the "overall strategic relationship with Turkey," all foreign weapons sales to Ankara and Turkey's intended purchase of the Russian-made S-400 long-range air-defense system, House Armed Services Committee senior aides told reporters Monday.
The report would be due within 90 days of the passing of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), during which the Lockheed Martin-made jets would be held from the nation.
Mattis earlier this month asked lawmakers not to block the F-35 sale, warning that it could start a "supply chain disruption" that could push the price of the aircraft higher.
"At this time, I oppose removal of Turkey from the F-35 program," Mattis wrote in a July 7 letter.
"If the Turkish supply chain was disrupted today, it would result in an aircraft production break, delaying delivery of 50-75 F-35s, and would take approximately 18-24 months to re-source parts and recover."
Turkey plans to eventually buy at least 100 F-35 Lightning II fighters under the U.S.-led, multinational Joint Strike Fighter program.
But the Senate, fed up with Turkish aggression, included in its version of the NDAA two provisions targeting Turkey's plans to purchase the F-35. Another provision would have sanctioned Ankara if it went through with the S-400 purchase.
The House version, meanwhile, would have stopped all weapons sales to the nation until the Pentagon analyzes worsening tensions between the two nations.
The aides said they kept a broad version of the Senate language.
A separate but related provision in the final NDAA calls on Turkey "to release wrongfully detained U.S. citizens including Andrew Brunson and Serkan Golge," according to a summary of the bill, the product of negotiations between House and Senate members on their chamber's respective defense authorization legislation.
Brunson, an American pastor, has been detained by the Turkish government for 18 months over accusations that he aided the Kurdistan Workers' Party in a failed coup attempt against President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
Relations between Washington and Ankara have been tense in the past year.
Turkey in December announced it intended to buy the S-400, a sale that worries NATO members because the system is not interoperable with its defense systems. The S-400 and could provide a way to steal F-35 technology should the aircraft be synced with it.
The two governments have also butted heads over Kurdish forces in Syria.
The United States relies on the Kurdish forces in fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and has aided them. But Turkey, which considers them terrorists, seized Afrin, Syria, from Kurdish forces in an offensive that caused a pause in the war against ISIS.
Tensions also flared last year when 15 Turkish security officials were indicted for an attack on protestors outside the Turkish Embassy while Erdogan was in D.C. for a visit with President Trump.
The House is expected to vote on the final NDAA this week, with the Senate to take it up in August.
What a way to treat a fellow NATO member.
What are Turkey’s options if this bill is implemented?
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F-35 transfers to Turkey held back under US defense measure: Report
Transfers of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey will be barred temporarily under a defense policy measure agreed to on July 23, Bloomberg reported citing House and Senate aides.
According to the report, the Turkish receipt of the fighter jets would be held back until the Pentagon submitted an assessment within 90 days of the measure’s enactment on United States-Turkish relations, the impact of Turkey’s planned acquisition of Russia’s advanced S-400 missile defense system, and the ramifications for the U.S. industrial base if Turkey is dropped from the international F-35 program.
The move, reflecting the tensions in U.S.-Turkish relations, is part of a $717 billion defense policy bill for fiscal year 2019 crafted by congressional negotiators that awaits final approval in the House and Senate. The measure would also hold back some funds for the Defense Department’s cloud activities, reflecting the controversy over a winner-take-all cloud contract that competitors say would favor Amazon.com, Inc.
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis had warned Congress against cutting off transfers of the F-35. In a letter to lawmakers this month, Mattis said he agreed “with congressional concerns about the authoritarian drift in Turkey and its impact on human rights and rule of law.” But he said an F-35 cutoff would risk triggering an international “supply chain disruption” that would drive up costs and delay deliveries of the fighter.
Turkey plans to eventually buy at least 100 F-35 Lightning II fighters under the U.S.-led, multinational Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program.
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Transfers of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey will be barred temporarily under a defense policy measure agreed to on July 23, Bloomberg reported citing House and Senate aides.
According to the report, the Turkish receipt of the fighter jets would be held back until the Pentagon submitted an assessment within 90 days of the measure’s enactment on United States-Turkish relations, the impact of Turkey’s planned acquisition of Russia’s advanced S-400 missile defense system, and the ramifications for the U.S. industrial base if Turkey is dropped from the international F-35 program.
The move, reflecting the tensions in U.S.-Turkish relations, is part of a $717 billion defense policy bill for fiscal year 2019 crafted by congressional negotiators that awaits final approval in the House and Senate. The measure would also hold back some funds for the Defense Department’s cloud activities, reflecting the controversy over a winner-take-all cloud contract that competitors say would favor Amazon.com, Inc.
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis had warned Congress against cutting off transfers of the F-35. In a letter to lawmakers this month, Mattis said he agreed “with congressional concerns about the authoritarian drift in Turkey and its impact on human rights and rule of law.” But he said an F-35 cutoff would risk triggering an international “supply chain disruption” that would drive up costs and delay deliveries of the fighter.
Turkey plans to eventually buy at least 100 F-35 Lightning II fighters under the U.S.-led, multinational Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program.
Sours: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/f-...d-back-under-us-defense-measure-report-134924
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Did president approved cogress' bill?
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America is pissing off alm its allies
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Lockheed Expects To Deliver Turkish F-35s Even As Congress Blocks Deal
Lockheed Martin (LMT) said Tuesday it still expects to deliver more F-35s to Turkey, despite moves in Congress to temporarily block the deal, after the defense giant beat earnings views and raised guidance.
At issue is Turkey's purchase of an S-400 missile-defense system from Russia, fueling concerns that Russia could gain access to the F-35's secrets if the fifth-generation fighter is sold to Turkey. Ankara plans to buy 100 F-35s.
On Tuesday, Congress finalized the defense authorization bill, which includes a provision that bars Turkey from receiving the F-35 until the Pentagon submits a detailed report on U.S.-Turkish relations, the impact of the S-400 purchase, and the effects on U.S. industry if Turkey is cut from the F-35 program. The Defense Department has 90 days to send the report to Congress.
But Lockheed officials aren't too concerned about the defense bill.
"We will continue to deliver aircraft until the U.S. government says not to, which we aren't expecting," CFO Bruce Tanner said during the company's second-quarter conference call.
And CEO Marillyn Hewson said Lockheed has been in discussions with the most senior levels of the Pentagon about the issue with Turkey.
She has support at the very top: Defense Secretary James Mattis wrote a letter to Congress opposing the provision to block Turkey's F-35s.
Lockheed actually handed over the first F-35s to Turkey last month, but they are currently at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., where Turkish pilots are learning how to fly the jet. Transferring the F-35s to Turkish territory is seen as the main risk to the F-35's security.
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Lockheed Martin (LMT) said Tuesday it still expects to deliver more F-35s to Turkey, despite moves in Congress to temporarily block the deal, after the defense giant beat earnings views and raised guidance.
At issue is Turkey's purchase of an S-400 missile-defense system from Russia, fueling concerns that Russia could gain access to the F-35's secrets if the fifth-generation fighter is sold to Turkey. Ankara plans to buy 100 F-35s.
On Tuesday, Congress finalized the defense authorization bill, which includes a provision that bars Turkey from receiving the F-35 until the Pentagon submits a detailed report on U.S.-Turkish relations, the impact of the S-400 purchase, and the effects on U.S. industry if Turkey is cut from the F-35 program. The Defense Department has 90 days to send the report to Congress.
But Lockheed officials aren't too concerned about the defense bill.
"We will continue to deliver aircraft until the U.S. government says not to, which we aren't expecting," CFO Bruce Tanner said during the company's second-quarter conference call.
And CEO Marillyn Hewson said Lockheed has been in discussions with the most senior levels of the Pentagon about the issue with Turkey.
She has support at the very top: Defense Secretary James Mattis wrote a letter to Congress opposing the provision to block Turkey's F-35s.
Lockheed actually handed over the first F-35s to Turkey last month, but they are currently at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., where Turkish pilots are learning how to fly the jet. Transferring the F-35s to Turkish territory is seen as the main risk to the F-35's security.
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Americans are becoming like indians when it comes to drama
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Ankara: No problems with delivery of F-35 fighter jets
Ankara said on July 24 it was not expecting any problems with the delivery of the F-35fighter jets despite a recent U.S. Senate decision to block the sales of the advanced aircraft to Turkey.
“Following the bill’s passing [in the U.S. Senate], this issue, as you know, is completely at the disposal of U.S. President [Donald Trump]. During our meeting in Brussels, Mr. Trump has also shown us the written statement he made. Such an issue [the banning of the delivery of F-35 jets] is out of question,” President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said when asked by reporters, referring to his meeting with Trump on July 11 during a NATO summit in the Belgian capital of Brussels.
The Turkish president spoke to reporters following a ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) group meeting in parliament.
“We have made a $900 million payment so far [for the sale of the F-35 jets]. And the delivery of two of them was made to us there [at the defense contractor Lockheed Martin’s headquarters in Fort Worth in Texas]. And our pilots are now conducting their training flights [in Luke Air Force Base in Arizona]. We do not have any concerns at this point,” Erdoğan noted.
Erdoğan’s statements came after U.S. Senate and House negotiators reached an agreement on July 23 on a defense policy bill that includes a number of provisions including barring the transfer of F-35 jets to Turkey temporarily.
If Turkey is dropped from the international F-35 program, the Turkish receipt of the fighter jets would be held back until the Pentagon submits an assessment within 90 days of the measure’s enactment on U.S.-Turkish relations, the impact of Turkey’s planned acquisition of Russia’s advanced S-400 missile defense system and the ramifications for the U.S. industrial base.
The deal on the fiscal year 2019 National Defense Authorization Act was announced by the leaders of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives Armed Services Committee. It must still be passed by the House and Senate and signed by Trump to become law.
The legislation would authorize spending $7.6 billion for 77 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets, made by Lockheed Martin Corp. But it would prohibit delivery of the advanced aircraft to Turkey.
Ankara said on July 24 it was not expecting any problems with the delivery of the F-35fighter jets despite a recent U.S. Senate decision to block the sales of the advanced aircraft to Turkey.
“Following the bill’s passing [in the U.S. Senate], this issue, as you know, is completely at the disposal of U.S. President [Donald Trump]. During our meeting in Brussels, Mr. Trump has also shown us the written statement he made. Such an issue [the banning of the delivery of F-35 jets] is out of question,” President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said when asked by reporters, referring to his meeting with Trump on July 11 during a NATO summit in the Belgian capital of Brussels.
The Turkish president spoke to reporters following a ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) group meeting in parliament.
“We have made a $900 million payment so far [for the sale of the F-35 jets]. And the delivery of two of them was made to us there [at the defense contractor Lockheed Martin’s headquarters in Fort Worth in Texas]. And our pilots are now conducting their training flights [in Luke Air Force Base in Arizona]. We do not have any concerns at this point,” Erdoğan noted.
Erdoğan’s statements came after U.S. Senate and House negotiators reached an agreement on July 23 on a defense policy bill that includes a number of provisions including barring the transfer of F-35 jets to Turkey temporarily.
If Turkey is dropped from the international F-35 program, the Turkish receipt of the fighter jets would be held back until the Pentagon submits an assessment within 90 days of the measure’s enactment on U.S.-Turkish relations, the impact of Turkey’s planned acquisition of Russia’s advanced S-400 missile defense system and the ramifications for the U.S. industrial base.
The deal on the fiscal year 2019 National Defense Authorization Act was announced by the leaders of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives Armed Services Committee. It must still be passed by the House and Senate and signed by Trump to become law.
The legislation would authorize spending $7.6 billion for 77 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets, made by Lockheed Martin Corp. But it would prohibit delivery of the advanced aircraft to Turkey.
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Keep in mind there are election coming very soon for Congres and Senate. By the years end it easly could be the Democrats who will be in majority. And some of these congrasmen who pushed for this shit are in very tight spot when it comes to being elected again.
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No man, the specific special interests that are driving this are probably playing both sides of the aisle.
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We should pull out all our money invested into this bullshit fighter program and reinvest it into a national air defense system. I can't see for the life of me why the retards in the TurAF want to build the backbone of our Airforce from fighters that need software updates from Washington to perform at their best?
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F35 have a build in kill switch. Lockheed has real time data transfer.
But USA will unleash embargo on Turkey.
But USA will unleash embargo on Turkey.
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