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WILL THE RUSSIA-PAKISTAN MILITARY EXERCISE MAKE NEW DELHI-MOSCOW TIES SOUR?


Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the joint press statements, in New Delhi on 11 December 2014. Image courtesy PIB

India may not officially give its take ever on this, but it is one development which won’t go down well with the Indian government and won’t be good for Indo-Russian relationship: the decision of Russia and Pakistan to hold joint military exercises first time ever.

The question is will India formally react to the Russia-Pakistan bonhomie? If it does and the Ministry of External Affairs issues a formal statement, though unlikely as per this writer’s understanding, how will India react? Will India react like a jilted lover or will India be more understanding and react like a mature friend?

Moreover, Prime Minister Narendra Modi is scheduled to visit Russia in July for attending the Brics summit. Will this development affect Modi's Russia visit? Will the increasing Russia-Pakistan proximity pour cold water on Modi’s plans to step up strategic engagement with the erstwhile tried and trusted partner like Russia?

A key Indian official this writer spoke to sought to play down the decision of Russia and Pakistan, reached during a meeting in Moscow between Pakistan Defence Minister Khawaja Asif and his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu.

The official contended that India is not going to react like a jilted lover and Indo-Russian partnership is much more important and on a far higher strategic plane. What is the big deal about holding joint military exercises after all? Hasn’t India conducted joint military exercises with a country like China with which India has fought a war?

There are two ways of looking at the increasing bonhomie between Moscow and Islamabad. One is the emotive way of bilateral relations which have traditionally been very warm though the two sides have not made much song and dance about it. The other is the cold strategic calculus and fast changing geopolitics.


On the emotional plane of bilateral relations, India may act like a possessive spouse and howl at Russia being wooed by a new suitor, Pakistan. A discernible chill has set in Indo-Russian relations. This is visible from the declining bilateral trade which was below $10 billion last year and is likely to tumble further this year. This is despite the fact that the two sides had vowed to raise their bilateral trade to $20 billion in 2015!

But then Russia itself cannot escape the blame for this state of affairs. True, Russians were miffed over the fact that Indian defence import orders were drying up and the United States edged past Russia last year to become India’s largest armament exporter. But that doesn’t mean that Russia should lift its embargo on sale of weaponry to Pakistan as it did last year.

The decision of Russia and Pakistan to hold joint military exercises is nothing in comparison to the much bigger red rag the Russians waved at India last year. Sergey Chemezov, the head of Rostec Corporation, inexplicably went on record saying last year that Russia was open to military-technological cooperation with Pakistan and the negotiations on the sales of Mi-35 multipurpose military transport helicopters to that country were already underway.

What was Chemezov trying to do? Pursuing a few million dollar worth military sale order with Pakistan and ignoring the tens of billions worth potential that India offers to Russia? That was poor diplomacy by Russia and bad way of fostering military-technological cooperation between Russia and India.

However, Indian pressure has worked so far and no Russian official has shot off his mouth on sale of Russian attack helicopters to Pakistan since then.

The other way of looking at increasing bonhomie between Russia and Pakistan is the fast-changing strategic matrix in the region.

Russia knows the importance of Pakistan as American and NATO troops have already started pulling out of Afghanistan. By next year end, Afghanistan will be completely on its own. Pakistan has been playing the waiting game for long and biding for its time.

Russia wants to keep Pakistan in good humour and needs Pakistan’s services in Afghanistan, something that China has been doing for decades. India understands the cold strategic reality and for this reason will have to look the other way when Russia starts to get closer to Pakistan.


The bottom line is this: joint military exercises between Russia and Pakistan won’t matter much and won’t upset the strategic equation in the region. But Russia should refrain from selling military hardware and attack helicopters to Pakistan. India and Russia need to work very closely and behave maturely.

Will the Russia-Pakistan military exercise make New Delhi-Moscow ties sour? - Firstpost


Personal Opinion: I smell 2 things - Pressure tactic and scent of $$$
 
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Nah ties wont be sour. I guess India will look the other way.

Why not order a few chineese toys??? :D :D
 
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What's the big deal in conducting a joint company level exercise? In contrast, is Pakistan pissed off at Sino-Indian military exercises? No!

I think we need to see things in the correct perspective instead of poking everyone in the eye on such minor issues. It's not as if the heavens are about to fall.

We make it seem as though this company lever exercise of a hundred or so troops spells doom for India!! No need for anyone to press the panic button! Relations between countries don't depend on such non issues. And the author of this article should know that.
 
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That shouldn't be any problem. We do exercises with China on yearly basis. Even our officers will train in each other's military institutes now if I am not wrong. After all Its a global world now and you have to deal with everyone unlike in past.
 
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If we Show them the $$$$ they will sell us anything.

Atleast we wont be begging for soft loans. ;)

IF, BUT, MAY, basically nothing but wishful thinking. After all these years you haven't learnt any thing about the Chinese, and thats fine with us!!! :dance3::dance3::dance3:
 
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What can India do? India relies on Russian military support, India can't afford to jeapordize that. They want their submarines and missiles and aircraft carriers from Russia, so they will just stand quietly in the corner.
 
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WILL THE RUSSIA-PAKISTAN MILITARY EXERCISE MAKE NEW DELHI-MOSCOW TIES SOUR?


Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the joint press statements, in New Delhi on 11 December 2014. Image courtesy PIB

India may not officially give its take ever on this, but it is one development which won’t go down well with the Indian government and won’t be good for Indo-Russian relationship: the decision of Russia and Pakistan to hold joint military exercises first time ever.

The question is will India formally react to the Russia-Pakistan bonhomie? If it does and the Ministry of External Affairs issues a formal statement, though unlikely as per this writer’s understanding, how will India react? Will India react like a jilted lover or will India be more understanding and react like a mature friend?

Moreover, Prime Minister Narendra Modi is scheduled to visit Russia in July for attending the Brics summit. Will this development affect Modi's Russia visit? Will the increasing Russia-Pakistan proximity pour cold water on Modi’s plans to step up strategic engagement with the erstwhile tried and trusted partner like Russia?

A key Indian official this writer spoke to sought to play down the decision of Russia and Pakistan, reached during a meeting in Moscow between Pakistan Defence Minister Khawaja Asif and his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu.

The official contended that India is not going to react like a jilted lover and Indo-Russian partnership is much more important and on a far higher strategic plane. What is the big deal about holding joint military exercises after all? Hasn’t India conducted joint military exercises with a country like China with which India has fought a war?

There are two ways of looking at the increasing bonhomie between Moscow and Islamabad. One is the emotive way of bilateral relations which have traditionally been very warm though the two sides have not made much song and dance about it. The other is the cold strategic calculus and fast changing geopolitics.


On the emotional plane of bilateral relations, India may act like a possessive spouse and howl at Russia being wooed by a new suitor, Pakistan. A discernible chill has set in Indo-Russian relations. This is visible from the declining bilateral trade which was below $10 billion last year and is likely to tumble further this year. This is despite the fact that the two sides had vowed to raise their bilateral trade to $20 billion in 2015!

But then Russia itself cannot escape the blame for this state of affairs. True, Russians were miffed over the fact that Indian defence import orders were drying up and the United States edged past Russia last year to become India’s largest armament exporter. But that doesn’t mean that Russia should lift its embargo on sale of weaponry to Pakistan as it did last year.

The decision of Russia and Pakistan to hold joint military exercises is nothing in comparison to the much bigger red rag the Russians waved at India last year. Sergey Chemezov, the head of Rostec Corporation, inexplicably went on record saying last year that Russia was open to military-technological cooperation with Pakistan and the negotiations on the sales of Mi-35 multipurpose military transport helicopters to that country were already underway.

What was Chemezov trying to do? Pursuing a few million dollar worth military sale order with Pakistan and ignoring the tens of billions worth potential that India offers to Russia? That was poor diplomacy by Russia and bad way of fostering military-technological cooperation between Russia and India.

However, Indian pressure has worked so far and no Russian official has shot off his mouth on sale of Russian attack helicopters to Pakistan since then.

The other way of looking at increasing bonhomie between Russia and Pakistan is the fast-changing strategic matrix in the region.

Russia knows the importance of Pakistan as American and NATO troops have already started pulling out of Afghanistan. By next year end, Afghanistan will be completely on its own. Pakistan has been playing the waiting game for long and biding for its time.

Russia wants to keep Pakistan in good humour and needs Pakistan’s services in Afghanistan, something that China has been doing for decades. India understands the cold strategic reality and for this reason will have to look the other way when Russia starts to get closer to Pakistan.


The bottom line is this: joint military exercises between Russia and Pakistan won’t matter much and won’t upset the strategic equation in the region. But Russia should refrain from selling military hardware and attack helicopters to Pakistan. India and Russia need to work very closely and behave maturely.

Will the Russia-Pakistan military exercise make New Delhi-Moscow ties sour? - Firstpost


Personal Opinion: I smell 2 things - Pressure tactic and scent of $$$
Exercise will not do much but big defence deals can
 
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I think we should regularly do exercises with all of the countries. Like for Amry, Air Force and Navy.
 
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Nothing will happen to India-Russia ties as long as India has money, and Russia's current spat with US+Europe has forced him to visit her ties with Pakistan - i think Russia's relations with Pakistan will be mostly of economic rather than military. So, no need to worry.
 
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What's the big deal in conducting a joint company level exercise? In contrast, is Pakistan pissed off at Sino-Indian military exercises? No!

I think we need to see things in the correct perspective instead of poking everyone in the eye on such minor issues. It's not as if the heavens are about to fall.

We make it seem as though this company lever exercise of a hundred or so troops spells doom for India!! No need for anyone to press the panic button! Relations between countries don't depend on such non issues. And the author of this article should know that.
Exactly. Our main problem is terrorism and insurgents. And i think its time both Indians and Pakistanis realize it. And if Russia can help Pakistan or even china can help india to increase counter insurgency capabilities then it is good for us all.

I will even say, being a citizen, Indians and Pakistanis should think that in current scenario both countries have enough weapons to defend their lands against any foreign aggression. any purchase of conventional war weapons will only become a stronger deterrent of war and keeping both sides from taking up any stupid adventure. Its a confusing aspect but think about it.

By the way of the topic we should focus more on educating our society that is a mammoth task. Instead of beating heads on such stupid stuff
 
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