Will Pak finally realise its issue is not India?

[GURU DUTT]

well its not like that, yes their are people who hate india and their are people who hate pakistan, but that is how world works, when you will keep infesting you children with hatred rather than love then how come that blame game will end, and no, Muhib ul watni means love of nation, not hatred for india, yes india is our arch rival and it will be, but that doesn't mean we actually hate u, and you mentioned army, that is not how it is, they never ask for revenge or anything be mature yar it is not a group of militants it is one of the worlds strongest army they dont need to show their hatred to earn sympathy of political parties and nation, they are our heroes and we will keep on supporting them through all ups and downs just like you people. And attacks, they will keep on happening until our leadership decides the fate of terrorists and you don't have to worry about them.


this is the mindset i was talking about.

1. i know what muhib ul watani means and also know how most pakistanies interpret it so please dont tell me pakistanies dont love to hate indians and india more than they love pakistan or pakistanies ... period

2. what pakistan is doing from day one is that they created a imagined enemy (india )and thet too on fictitous grounds and you know what they are

3. pakistan was never in control of its western flanks but always wanted more (kashmir) and still are not changing there attitude so why should india stop building its defences against such a baised "enemy/nation"

4. trade and people to people contact was good before 1965 war but pakistani junta decided to add the feul to the fire and ayub khan went ahead with opreation gibralter and tashkent declaration followed

5. pakistani racist elite (punjabi feudal and milltarry) never gave the rights of bengalies to them and when they agitated we all know how gen tikka khan and Z A Bhutto reacted and result was independent nation of bangladesh

6. still they to keep fire burning teamed up with USA and created a new enemy in form of USSR and to to that

a. they changed there school text books
b. made mini bomb and demolition and terrorist training camps in madarsas
c. turned a blind eye to growing smuggling of arms and ammo , opium and anything from afghanistan
d. every jihadi from the world was welcomed

and aal this to have a steady supply of relegeous zeolots and extriminsts to fight the proxi war first in afghansiatn and then with its arch rival india

now pakistani nation as a whole is paying the deus of that policy of keeping, funding and training "strategik deapth" which Pak Fauj wanted to use as proxies and used them to and still using under so called " good and bad taliban" policy

well you must have heared/ read "WHAT YOU SOW IS WHAT YOU SHALL REAP"

and still pakistanies when dont find anything to confront the situtaion they have they go into denial mode and start making "sazishee maqbooze"

tell me bro who is to blame ?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Chinese weapons are easily available in the market (many legally sold here) and black market...Indians denied in fact laughed when I suggested if the Indian guns were bought from black market....

SO either India eat its pride and admit about their guns being sold in the black market or admit there is someone from India funding these bastards!

ORRRRR, you actually provide some PROOF that Indian WEAPONRY was used in this attack otherwise stop going on about it. Even no days after your Rangers alleged Indian weapons had been used not a shred of evidence has come up to back up these slanderous claims, at most it one could say Indian medicines were on them but I've pointed out why this is irrelevant on a number of threads now.


You guys seem to have taken it as fact Indian weapons were used without having anything to back it up other than one throw away comment from some Ranger officer. Are you so trusting of all news that you don't need confirmations?

 

[Dubious]

ORRRRR, you actually provide some PROOF that Indian WEAPONRY was used in this attack otherwise stop going on about it. Even no days after your Rangers alleged Indian weapons had been used not a shred of evidence has come up to back up these slanderous claims, at most it one could say Indian medicines were on them but I've pointed out why this is irrelevant on a number of threads now.


You guys seem to have taken it as fact Indian weapons were used without having anything to back it up other than one throw away comment from some Ranger officer. Are you so trusting of all news that you don't need confirmations?

By discussing or posting articles does not mean we have taken it as a fact...You can google it.....I already posted the said articles in 2 threads and am tired of hearing the same denial responses!

I didnt point a finger we are just talking based on what media has thrown at us not that India has refuted anything but instead it too has given its fair share of mirch masalah!

 

[Berut]

1. i know what muhib ul watani means and also know how most pakistanies interpret it so please dont tell me pakistanies dont love to hate indians and india more than they love pakistan or pakistanies ... period

2. what pakistan is doing from day one is that they created a imagined enemy (india )and thet too on fictitous grounds and you know what they are

3. pakistan was never in control of its western flanks but always wanted more (kashmir) and still are not changing there attitude so why should india stop building its defences against such a baised "enemy/nation"

4. trade and people to people contact was good before 1965 war but pakistani junta decided to add the feul to the fire and ayub khan went ahead with opreation gibralter and tashkent declaration followed

5. pakistani racist elite (punjabi feudal and milltarry) never gave the rights of bengalies to them and when they agitated we all know how gen tikka khan and Z A Bhutto reacted and result was independent nation of bangladesh

6. still they to keep fire burning teamed up with USA and created a new enemy in form of USSR and to to that

a. they changed there school text books
b. made mini bomb and demolition and terrorist training camps in madarsas
c. turned a blind eye to growing smuggling of arms and ammo , opium and anything from afghanistan
d. every jihadi from the world was welcomed

and aal this to have a steady supply of relegeous zeolots and extriminsts to fight the proxi war first in afghansiatn and then with its arch rival india

now pakistani nation as a whole is paying the deus of that policy of keeping, funding and training "strategik deapth" which Pak Fauj wanted to use as proxies and used them to and still using under so called " good and bad taliban" policy

well you must have heared/ read "WHAT YOU SOW IS WHAT YOU SHALL REAP"

and still pakistanies when dont find anything to confront the situtaion they have they go into denial mode and start making "sazishee maqbooze"

tell me bro who is to blame ?

you can make up your long stories, thinking for hours and hours on what to write, but the truth is that we are to be blamed, u and me, we have to take responsibility, what did war gave us and our people?misery. and well every country do what is best for its own interests, peace.And please dont speak without some solid evidence or accept the fact that all of above are your make up facts.

 

[Dubious]

ORRRRR, you actually provide some PROOF that Indian WEAPONRY was used in this attack otherwise stop going on about it. Even no days after your Rangers alleged Indian weapons had been used not a shred of evidence has come up to back up these slanderous claims, at most it one could say Indian medicines were on them but I've pointed out why this is irrelevant on a number of threads now.


You guys seem to have taken it as fact Indian weapons were used without having anything to back it up other than one throw away comment from some Ranger officer. Are you so trusting of all news that you don't need confirmations?

Here :

Militant Attack On Karachi Airport In Pakistan Claims 23 Lives, At Least 14 Wounded

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/world/asia/deadly-attack-karachi-international-airport.html

Take your pick

 

[SrNair]

no matter how hard anyone will try, their wont be any brother hood between indo-pak. We are to be blamed, we infest our children only with hatred and not love, and about that blame thing, that will never end, it's the way this world works

We dont brainwashed our childrens.We are teaching our people for a better life ,profession and job.Not hatred.

 

[imran_punjabi]

this is not how things work on Earth, maybe in some parallel worlds.

sad

 

[foxbat]

Here :

Militant Attack On Karachi Airport In Pakistan Claims 23 Lives, At Least 14 Wounded

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/world/asia/deadly-attack-karachi-international-airport.html

Take your pick

Unnamed sources? Really ? And its a bloody statement in a local newspaper. Where are the photographs ? Don't tell me that Pakistani social media can capture the snaps of the dead terrorists in the middle of a gun battle but is too stupid to get pictures of Indian arms and ammo..

Also, Where is ISPR release which is considered gospel by most pakistanis. Specially the ones on the forum. .

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

Here :

Militant Attack On Karachi Airport In Pakistan Claims 23 Lives, At Least 14 Wounded

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/09/world/asia/deadly-attack-karachi-international-airport.html

Take your pick

my two points

An Taliban under India's control will be first used to kill Dawood and Hafiz Saeed not attack karachi

secondly, Pakistan has all rights to take the proof upto UN and attack india in UN

 

[Dubious]

Unnamed sources? Really ? And its a bloody statement in a local newspaper. Where are the photographs ? Don't tell me that Pakistani social media can capture the snaps of the dead terrorists in the middle of a gun battle but is too stupid to get pictures of Indian arms and ammo..

Also, Where is ISPR release which is considered gospel by most pakistanis. Specially the ones on the forum. .

Why dont you use google yourself! Stop throwing your accusation habits around...I said I posted articles from what ever media wrote isnt that how you justified the Mumbai attacks articles? Besides show me where I said India did it?

It was your countryman begging me to post the articles coz he cant be bothered to search them but wants to fight none the same?!

 

[Berut]

We dont brainwashed our childrens.We are teaching our people for a better life ,profession and job.Not hatred.

unfortunately, this is not what is happening.

 

[Dubious]

my two points

An Taliban under India's control will be first used to kill Dawood and Hafiz Saeed not attack karachi

secondly, Pakistan has all rights to take the proof upto UN and attack india in UN

When has UN ever done anything useful? We have debates in secondary school titled has the UN failed...

Next, no one is saying India did it..I am tired of 3 straight threads by Indians ranting the same thing....seriously? I said news articles said it...my suggestion was to wait for investigation then my questions were hypothetical if it were true it leads to few questions:

1) black market of Indian arms
2) Side business of someone in India
3) India did

Now not until we get any proof...we aint saying anything...

 

[Berut]

Unnamed sources? Really ? And its a bloody statement in a local newspaper. Where are the photographs ? Don't tell me that Pakistani social media can capture the snaps of the dead terrorists in the middle of a gun battle but is too stupid to get pictures of Indian arms and ammo..

Also, Where is ISPR release which is considered gospel by most pakistanis. Specially the ones on the forum. .

blame game, we blame you, you blame us, this is how things work.

 

[Dubious]

We dont brainwashed our childrens.We are teaching our people for a better life ,profession and job.Not hatred.

really, PDF speaks really different of these children!

 

[Berut]

sad

it is.