You are one of those rare Jahiliyya guys.
Dummy J2 origins is in Iran not Arabia, even J1 origin is caucus.
J2:
Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) born in
Ur as one of cities of "
Iran's Elamite Kingdom".
You said "J2" map is incorrect I hope you don't say this map is from wikimedia is also uncorrect:
Mongol/Turkish dna map:
What an uneducated fire-worshipper moron (using your language that you started).
J2 does not originate in Iran nor does J1 originate in Caucasus.
Try again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M267
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M172
How dumb are you? Prophet Ibrahim (as), the ancestor of Arabs and Jews, was born in ancient Mesopotamia (Southern Iraq) that is home to much older civilizations than those found in Iran. He was a Semite too and had nothing to do with Iran. Never stepped foot there unlike Iraq, Sham and Arabia.
As far as Elamites goes they were not an Iranian people let alone Persians who first appeared in history some 3000 years ago which is also where the first recorded Arabs appeared. Nor have Elamites anything to do with Southern Iraq or Ur. Of course the notion of Semites predate the notion of an Iranian people by millennia but that is another discussion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_in_Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur
Can moderators ban this troll for spreading nonsense and trolling every single Arabic topic?
@Full Moon we can see Wilayat al-Faqih glory in its full might here for all to see.
A reminder for the Kawli. Arabia is the second oldest inhabited place on earth and was inhabited by humans for 10'000's of years while his Iran (younger than the notion of Arabia) was a complete wasteland where only animals lived.
Enough of stupidity for today.
No lets not, he is hilarious. and my friend. lol
Hilariously stupid, yes, lol.
@TheCamelGuy why is that Iranian idiot claiming ancient Semitic history that belongs to Semites of the region and Iraq? This idiot claims that Ur is an Iranian city (Elamite more precisely who were not Persians, Iranians let alone spoke an Iranian language) let alone his attempt at stealing Prophet Ibrahim (as). Somebody deal with the nonsense of this low IQ kawli.
Ur (
Sumerian:
Urim;
[1] Sumerian Cuneiform: URIM2
KI or URIM5KI;
[2] Akkadian:
Uru;
[3]Arabic: أور) was an important
Sumerian city-state in ancient
Mesopotamia, located at the site of modern
Tell el-Muqayyar (
Arabic: تل المقير) in south
Iraq's
Dhi Qar Governorate.
[4] Although Ur was once a coastal
city near the mouth of the
Euphrates on the
Persian Gulf, the coastline has shifted and the city is now well inland, south of the Euphrates on its right bank, 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) from
Nasiriyah.
[5]
The city dates from the Ubaid period circa 3800 BC, and is recorded in
written history as a
City State from the 26th century BC, its first recorded king being
Mesh-Ane-pada. The city's patron deity was
Nanna (in
Akkadian,
Sin), the Sumerian and Akkadian (
Assyrian-
Babylonian)
moon god, and the name of the city is in origin derived from the god's name, URIM2KI being the classical Sumerian spelling of
LAK-32.UNUGKI, literally "the abode (UNUG) of Nanna (LAK-32)".
[5]
The site is marked by the partially restored ruins of the
Ziggurat of Ur, which contained the shrine of Nanna, excavated in the 1930s. The temple was built in the 21st century BC (
short chronology), during the reign of
Ur-Nammu and was reconstructed in the 6th century BC by
Nabonidus, the Assyrian born last king of
Babylon. The ruins cover an area of 1,200 metres (3,900 ft) northwest to southeast by 800 metres (2,600 ft) northeast to southwest and rise up to about 20 metres (66 ft) above the present plain level.
[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur
Dating, extent and periodization
The Ubaid period is divided into three principal phases:
- Ubaid 0, sometimes called Oueili, (6500-5400 BCE) an early Ubaid phase first excavated at Tell el-'Oueili
- Ubaid 1, sometimes called Eridu[6] (5400–4700 BCE), a phase limited to the extreme south of Iraq, on what was then the shores of the Persian Gulf. This phase, showing clear connection to the Samarra culture to the north, saw the establishment of the first permanent settlement south of the 5 inch rainfall isohyet. These people pioneered the growing of grains in the extreme conditions of aridity, thanks to the high water tables of Southern Iraq.[7]
- Ubaid 2 — [6] (4800–4500 BCE), after the type site of the same name, saw the development of extensive canal networks from major settlements. Irrigation agriculture, which seems to have developed first at Choga Mami(4700–4600 BCE) and rapidly spread elsewhere, form the first required collective effort and centralised coordination of labour in Mesopotamia.[8]
- Ubaid 3/4, sometimes called Ubaid I and Ubaid II[9] — In the period from 4500–4000 BCE saw a period of intense and rapid urbanisation with the Ubaid culture spread into northern Mesopotamia and was adopted by the Halaf culture.[10][11] Ubaid artifacts spread also all along the Arabian littoral, showing the growth of a trading system that stretched from the Mediterranean coast through to Oman.[12][13]
Spreading from Eridu the Ubaid culture extended from the Middle of the Tigris and Euphrates to the shores of the Persian Gulf, and then spread down past Bahrain to the copper deposits at Oman. The archaeological record shows that Arabian Bifacial/Ubaid period came to an abrupt end in eastern Arabia and the Oman peninsula at 3800 BCE, just after the phase of lake lowering and onset of dune reactivation.[14] At this time, increased aridity led to an end in semi-desert nomadism, and there is no evidence of human presence in the area for approximately 1000 years, the so-called "Dark Millennium".[15] That might be due to the 5.9 kiloyear event at the end of the Older Peron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubaid_period
Muslims believe that the prophet Abraham became the leader of the righteous in his time and it was through him that the people of both the Arabian Peninsula and Israel came. Abraham, in the belief of Islam, was instrumental in cleansing the world of idolatry at the time.
Paganism was cleared out by Abraham in both Arabia and
Canaan. He spiritually purified both places as well as physically sanctifying the houses of worship.
Abraham and Ismail (Ishmael) further established the rites of pilgrimage,[7] or Hajj, which are still followed by Muslims today. Muslims maintain that Abraham further asked God to bless both the lines of his progeny, of Ismail (Ishmael) and Ishaq (Isaac), and to keep all of his descendants in the protection of God. They also believe that Muhammad is a descendant of Abraham through Ishmael.
Muslims maintain that Abraham's father was Aazar (Arabic: آزر, translit. Āzar),[8][9] which could be derived from the Syriac Athar,[10]who is known in the Hebrew Bible as Terah. Other Muslims maintain that Azar was his paternal uncle.[11] Commentators and scholars believed that Abraham himself had many children, but Ismail (Ishmael) and Ishaq (Isaac) were the only two who became prophets. Abraham's two wives are believed to have been Sarah and Hājar, the latter of whom was originally Sarah's handmaiden.[12] Abraham's nephew is said to have been the messenger Lut (Lot), who was one of the other people who migrated with Abraham out of their community. Abraham himself is said to have been a descendant of Nuh through his son Shem.[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_in_Islam
