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Will Al Qaeda Fail in India?

I'd recommend watching this to all those mentally m@sturbating about home grown Islamic terrorism in India:


Basically the Muslims who pursue terror activities in India are marginalised by their families and communities unlike in other parts of the world- Afghanistan, Pakistan, ME etc where they are supported and held up as heroes. Many are there purely for the money and ideology isn't what recruits them anymore.

With IM and SIMI collapsing on itself in India I can't see AQ being successful especially not with a new more muscular Indian Security apparatus.
 
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Here is my thought about this entire episode...
Little Perspective before talking about this issue.

1- It will be a fool to say that in Muslims are not discriminated...But again, if someone feels that only Muslims are onlt discriminated then it is wrong...In India Muslim discrimination is an extension of our pathetic caste system which i hate from my core...
2- It is not like all minorities are persecuted...You may not see much noise from Jains.Parsis, Sikhs,Budhist and Christians too...The reason is socio cultural aspect...In those mentioned minorities, their social,political and economic interest never ever in a collision course with mainstream narrative of India, where as Muslims in particular has a social,religious and political narrative is not in alignment with mainstream narrative...(Again, i am not judging that it is good or bad). And again, this is encouraged by our political parties rather than creating a new Indian Muslim narrative....Reason, it is easy to get 15% of Indian Muslim votes by talking about few tokenism gestures than really uplifting them out of poverty and creating a new Indian Muslim narrative as China is recently trying to create for its own Muslim population.

3- Although there is a lot of talk on air about Muslim appeasement politically, but in ground, those so called appeasement is never gave any tangible result for Muslim people, Probable reason, i can see is that lack of Indian Muslim leader who has acumen to see long term benefit..It may have happened because most of the elite class Muslim leadership left Pakistan at the time of partition, leaving a void of leadership crisis among Indian Muslim which was exploited by Nehru and later on so many regional Parties..

4- There is a lot of buzz about Hindus and Muslims relationship..I categorize 3 different kind of relationship between these 2 communities..
- Me and my friend who are Indian and happens to Muslims never have any issue even in challenging topics about criticizing our own beliefs and religion...We are perfectly fine bashing each other as long as there is no familly is involved...Religion is not factor..We share common social, political and economic aspiration...And to add it further, they are BJP state level members since last 18 years...

- There are other category who are not personal, but accept each others difference and we move on.We share common econimic objective of our nation and talk in same language in sports, development, Movies and to some extent international politics as long as it does not involve Pakistan and Kashmir....We speak about Movies, Technology and Girls...No politics...Because political beleif is a matter of confrontation for them...Their beleif of Palestine issue is completely opposite to mine or my BJP muslim friends...But they do not mind talking and chit chatting and partying with each other...

- There is another category whom i interact on FB only, who are really different...They did not believe in India and they hate Hindu people as such....Their are diametrically opposite to the rest of the people...And most of the people of this category you will find on North and Western part of India....

Hence to create a harmonious relationship, Type 1 and 2 can be accommodated but not 3. Although No 3 is miniscule, but they are very loud and extrovert which can be clearly seen..Al Queda may be targetting the type 3 people, but the good part is that although BJP is a force in India, Indian Muslim are politically powerful to show their frustration with all Non BJP parties to get their things done...So AL QD will not be successful till the point Congress and other pseudo secular parties win more than 65% of votes in combine in democratic India...Because there is always a channel for Indian Muslim to protest through votes to show their anger...It is easier to get alligned with Congress and others than AL QD...

And let us be honest, i am a nationalist who votes for BJP and support them...Again, my nationalism does not support to oppose Indian who are Muslims....But oppose and fight with type 3 people who are Muslims and anti Indian...if anyone is not anti Indian, i do not mind if they keep on fighting with me, as even i fight with my near and dear ones too....


Haq's Musings: Al Qaeda Can Succeed in India Only if Aided by Hindu Nationalists

Ayman Al-Zawahiri, successor to Osama Bin Laden as Al Qaeda chief, has announced plans to "raise the flag of jihad" in South Asia, particularly India. Zawahiri said that the new wing would save Muslims from injustice and oppression, and bring relief for Muslims "in Burma [Myanmar], Bangladesh, Assam, Gujarat, Ahmedabad, and Kashmir", according to Indian media reports.



In a video released by Al Qaeda, Zawahiri has made two references to the western state of Gujarat, the home state of India's Hindu Nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi who is widely believed to be at least partly responsible for the 2002 riots in which thousands of Muslims were massacred in Gujarat.

Can Al Qaeda Succeed in India?

Can Al Qaeda succeed in "raising the flag of jihad" in India? Are the conditions in India conducive for Al Qaeda to take root? These are the important questions being raised among south Asia watchers ad analysts. In my view the answer to these questions would depend mainly on how the Modi government reacts to this threat.

What is the State of Muslims in India?

It is not a secret that there is widespread discrimination against Indian Muslims in education, employment and housing.

India's criminal justice system is clearly stacked against Muslims and other minorities. Muslims make up 13% of India's population but 28% of Indian prisoners. Similarly, Christians make up 2.8% of India's population but 6% of India's prison population. Meanwhile, the newly elected parliament has just 4% Muslim representation.

There is ongoing ghettoization of Muslims in Indian cities. Muslims are routinely and systematically excluded from living in nice urban neighborhoods.

Indian Muslims are now worse off than the lowest-caste Hindus, or Dalits, in terms of education and employment. The 2013 update of the Sachar Commission report shows there has been little improvement for Muslims since the original report published 2006.

Will Hindu Nationalists Frame More Muslims on Terror Charges?

Hindu Nationalists and there allies in the Indian government machinery have used the US global war on terror as a convenient cover to launch a concerted campaign of terror against Indian Muslims. Large numbers of Muslims in various parts of India continue to languish in jails on trumped-up terror charges, suffering brutal torture as well as routine insults to their religion by police officials., according to Indian journalist Yoginder Sikand.

In addition, several Hindutva terror groups, and their affiliates, have carried out a number of bomb blasts across India in the last few years, and tried to pin the blame on Indian Muslims or the Pakistan's intelligence service ISI. A retired high-ranking Indian police official S.M. Mushrif has described nearly a dozen blasts conducted by Hindutva terror groups of different stripes. He argues that a section of India’s intelligence services, a small group in the armed forces and parts of different state police forces have been compromised and infiltrated by these elements, a development that bodes ill for the future of the country, and the region.

Summary:

Conditions already exist today, especially after the recent success of the Sangh Parivar in India, for Al Qaeda to succeed in persuading many resentful Indian Muslims to join its "jihad" in South Asia. If the latest video threat from Al Qaeda chief intensifies framing of innocent Muslims on terror charges by the new Hindu Nationalist government led by Narendra Modi, then the chances of Al Qaeda's success would dramatically increase in India.


Haq's Musings: Al Qaeda Can Succeed in India Only if Aided by Hindu Nationalists
 
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probably you would know better becasuuse you know why a number of Muslim youths, both well educated, rich and insufficiently educated poor have formed a few radical armed grouped.
Babri Mosque demolition is a failure for Congress and psedo secular policy to read the pulse of Majority Hindu people in 50 years....SO those fristration is exploited by BJP and presented Babri Mosque is revenge for thousand of temple that was demolished by Islamic invaders in ancient India...With the name of taking care of minority people, you can not side step sentiment of majority people altogether...
 
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- There is another category whom i interact on FB only, who are really different...They did not believe in India and they hate Hindu people as such....Their are diametrically opposite to the rest of the people...And most of the people of this category you will find on North and Western part of India....

There is a possibility that this particular group, or a part of it may not be Indians at all.
 
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that is only applicable to msulims that lived far away from the border. Had they lived closer to the border they would choose pakistan. Religious hatred did play a part during partition you may say it was politically motivated but it did exist.

Spot on...Our historian try their every bit to just highlight Mahatma Gandhi as God and Neheru as a perfectionist...This is wrong...All Mulsims from India did not migrate because this was not physically possible for a nation like India in 1947 to migrate from Chennai or Kerala or UP to migrate to Pakistan or BD...Every Muslims are not rich to travel...So not travelling to pakistan at the time of partition is not a love for India rather it was a constraint for them...But again, historian always try to put a spin to it..to potray Nehru and Gandhi as angels..

There is a possibility that this particular group, or a part of it may not be Indians at all.

They are Indian and strangely they belong other political parties like RJD,Congress, Communist,NC and PDP...they are Pakistan who support Pakistan cricket team, follow Pakistan news channel and do everything that is for Pakistan...This is a reality and we have to accept and face it...
 
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AQ's intent is sure to make internal security a new priority for Mr. Modi, who already has a full plate. It remains to be seen whether his government will prove any more successful than previous governments in addressing the root causes of the Naxalites' success -- a failure to meet many Indians' basic needs, and the grinding poverty that endures in much of the country.

This is happening while the world is transfixed at the rapid rise of the IS, and aghast at the inability of any country to stop its march across the Levant. The birth of the world's newest nation and its newest failed state --the IS -- and the ability of groups like AQ to simply declare what they intend to do, almost at will, have served to demonstrate just how feeble the established international order has become.

The truth is that Syria and Iraq are slowly disintegrating. Short of committing hundreds of thousands of troops to both countries in a lengthy and sustained battle -- which will not happen -- it seems likely that, at a minimum, IS will retain most of the gains it has made, and may claim even greater territory in Syria, Iraq, and greater Kurdistan in the weeks and months to come.

Al Qaeda's Move in India Presages More Elsewhere | Daniel Wagner
 
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Haq's musings!!!!!!!! :omghaha::rofl:

I don't know why people reproduce his silly 'musings' out here, though this musing was pretty amusing!! :partay:

According to him, Al Qaeda has the enormous capability of subjugating 1.2 billion Indians and establish an Indian Islamic Caliphate headed by Zawahiri and a few of his bearded dicks!!! Oh yeah! :rofl:
OP is by the Writer in flesh... India obsession at his best....

pakistan doesn't support terrorism…..especially al qaeda…
pakistan supports oppressed people fighting for their rights aka kashmiris.
Are you sure, google airlift of evil....

Al Qaeda will fail only if Modi's Hindu Nationalist govt do not aid its recruitment effort by framing more and more innocent Muslims on trumped up terror charges.

Read the following: Haq's Musings: India's Guantanamos and Abu Ghraibs
are you just shamelessly trying to gather hits for you blog?
 
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Haq's Musings: Al Qaeda Can Succeed in India Only if Aided by Hindu Nationalists

Ayman Al-Zawahiri, successor to Osama Bin Laden as Al Qaeda chief, has announced plans to "raise the flag of jihad" in South Asia, particularly India. Zawahiri said that the new wing would save Muslims from injustice and oppression, and bring relief for Muslims "in Burma [Myanmar], Bangladesh, Assam, Gujarat, Ahmedabad, and Kashmir", according to Indian media reports.



In a video released by Al Qaeda, Zawahiri has made two references to the western state of Gujarat, the home state of India's Hindu Nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi who is widely believed to be at least partly responsible for the 2002 riots in which thousands of Muslims were massacred in Gujarat.

Can Al Qaeda Succeed in India?

Can Al Qaeda succeed in "raising the flag of jihad" in India? Are the conditions in India conducive for Al Qaeda to take root? These are the important questions being raised among south Asia watchers ad analysts. In my view the answer to these questions would depend mainly on how the Modi government reacts to this threat.

What is the State of Muslims in India?

It is not a secret that there is widespread discrimination against Indian Muslims in education, employment and housing.

India's criminal justice system is clearly stacked against Muslims and other minorities. Muslims make up 13% of India's population but 28% of Indian prisoners. Similarly, Christians make up 2.8% of India's population but 6% of India's prison population. Meanwhile, the newly elected parliament has just 4% Muslim representation.

There is ongoing ghettoization of Muslims in Indian cities. Muslims are routinely and systematically excluded from living in nice urban neighborhoods.

Indian Muslims are now worse off than the lowest-caste Hindus, or Dalits, in terms of education and employment. The 2013 update of the Sachar Commission report shows there has been little improvement for Muslims since the original report published 2006.

Will Hindu Nationalists Frame More Muslims on Terror Charges?

Hindu Nationalists and there allies in the Indian government machinery have used the US global war on terror as a convenient cover to launch a concerted campaign of terror against Indian Muslims. Large numbers of Muslims in various parts of India continue to languish in jails on trumped-up terror charges, suffering brutal torture as well as routine insults to their religion by police officials., according to Indian journalist Yoginder Sikand.

In addition, several Hindutva terror groups, and their affiliates, have carried out a number of bomb blasts across India in the last few years, and tried to pin the blame on Indian Muslims or the Pakistan's intelligence service ISI. A retired high-ranking Indian police official S.M. Mushrif has described nearly a dozen blasts conducted by Hindutva terror groups of different stripes. He argues that a section of India’s intelligence services, a small group in the armed forces and parts of different state police forces have been compromised and infiltrated by these elements, a development that bodes ill for the future of the country, and the region.

Summary:

Conditions already exist today, especially after the recent success of the Sangh Parivar in India, for Al Qaeda to succeed in persuading many resentful Indian Muslims to join its "jihad" in South Asia. If the latest video threat from Al Qaeda chief intensifies framing of innocent Muslims on terror charges by the new Hindu Nationalist government led by Narendra Modi, then the chances of Al Qaeda's success would dramatically increase in India.


Haq's Musings: Al Qaeda Can Succeed in India Only if Aided by Hindu Nationalists

More than poverty its events in Kashmir and Gujarat and Assam and other parts off India where Muslims are killed daily these events will provide AL QAEDA and ISIS and Taliban lot off recruits and events like 26/11 will become more frequent
 
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To the Indians who are championing TNT here: For god's sake, geographical contiguity combined with traditional disharmony between the two communities was not the major reason for the cataclysmic migration of Muslim population in 1947. It is a bit simplistic and cunning as well to ignore the social and cultural factors along with the fear of state sponsored persecution that started in 46' which quite distinctly shows the reason behind the vast generic difference between the migration in East and that of West.
 
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I don't find any PR link or news yet on this tweet.

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AQ's intent is sure to make internal security a new priority for Mr. Modi, who already has a full plate. It remains to be seen whether his government will prove any more successful than previous governments in addressing the root causes of the Naxalites' success -- a failure to meet many Indians' basic needs, and the grinding poverty that endures in much of the country.

This is happening while the world is transfixed at the rapid rise of the IS, and aghast at the inability of any country to stop its march across the Levant. The birth of the world's newest nation and its newest failed state --the IS -- and the ability of groups like AQ to simply declare what they intend to do, almost at will, have served to demonstrate just how feeble the established international order has become.

The truth is that Syria and Iraq are slowly disintegrating. Short of committing hundreds of thousands of troops to both countries in a lengthy and sustained battle -- which will not happen -- it seems likely that, at a minimum, IS will retain most of the gains it has made, and may claim even greater territory in Syria, Iraq, and greater Kurdistan in the weeks and months to come.

Al Qaeda's Move in India Presages More Elsewhere | Daniel Wagner


India is not Syria or Iraq...............too bad!! Maximum they can do is one or two bomb blast before getting caught and skinned.
 
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