Ah, our sanghchalak leaps to the rescue of his acolyte. What a fun, Sir-jee.
It's revealing to see you stew in your own venom for the 'Evil Hindu'. It would have been better for you to reinvent yourselves to adjust to the new age than see you invent new words to share your frustration.
Stew? In my own venom?
As a matter of fact, I have been deriving a great deal of satisfaction undertaking a clinical dissection of the rubbish placed before us. Took me back to school days, doing biology, the case of the chela reminding me of those hapless frogs, whereas the guru partook more of the nature of the ubiquitous cockroach.
I suppose if you did not have these buffers against brutal reality, you would go stark, raving mad. We might have some difficulty in spotting any changed behaviour, but it is a pitiful state, not to be wished on anyone. Be happy with your illusions, that you are actually making any impression other than on your private glee club.
You do understand that you have been accused of having a elitist mentality, you have not actually been called an elite......so you might want to go easy on issuing certificates to Vajpayee and Advani
...... not that anyone cares ...but it does highlight your puny character. Are you related to Justice Katju by any chance ? He too is an megalomaniac.
You do understand - or perhaps you don't - that public praise or indifference matters very little to me. I stand up for what is right, regardless of the national flag, and I denounce what is wrong, again, regardless of the national flag.
I know what I am and don't hesitate to stand up to all sorts of blackguards and bigots, fundamentalists and frauds of all sections, creeds and ethnicity.
I know what Vajpayee and Advani are, criminals in their conduct of the nation's affairs, notwithstanding Vajpayee's occasional twinges of conscience, and have no difficulty in calling them knaves.
Did you think I was asking for permission? From the morally bankrupt who wink and nod at the murder of defenceless men, women and children who were their fellow citizens? Do you think that there is the slightest shred of respect for the utterly debased who fight the case for the murderers? It is not about India and Pakistan, it is about criminals and the law-abiding.
More Fun, you accuse him of being an apologist for people who do not believe in the rule of law and yet when he says he would rather believe the SIT monitored by the Supreme Court you accuse him of Double Standard
........what tangled web you weave.
Not at all. What I wrote was crystal clear.
The objection was to his attempts at selecting what part of the legal system he would believe, and what he would not.
No, your attempt to put words in his mouth is what's 'Pathetic'. He was clear and articulate enough for the rest of us.
He avoided the point raised entirely. You call that being clear and articulate? Fair enough. It amounts to this, then; clarity and articulation lies in running away.
He has answered, you just want him to waste his time demolishing this new strawman. The Supreme Court monitored SIT has reviewed all supposed 'overflowing proof' and has submitted its findings.
...and that review, and the findings submitted, were disappointing, and were mentioned specifically by the amicus curiae. What a sad state of affairs, that a court-appointed team is found to be involved in a cover-up. How sad that nobody believes its findings, and that its conclusions were greeted with incredulity by all other than the creatures of the Sangh Parivar.
That is YOUR claim, SIT has clearly said there is no murder charge against Modi. Now who should we believe Joe Shears or SIT ? ......
Again, errors occasioned by a fundamental lack of intellect, without even bringing in the question of deliberate distortion: Occam's Razor applies in this case.
The point raised was not about Modi being a murderer.
The point raised was about Modi's supposed good governance and efficiency compensating for his connivance at murder.
He was never accused of murder, by the way, it was always about breaching his oath of office and allowing crimes to take place which he should have prevented.
And the logic that was pointed out, that you have sadly, but typically, failed to understand, was that once these claims to greater efficiency are exposed and revealed, there is no longer any fig-leaf to hide behind.
The question about the SIT having found him not directly chargeable of any crime has no relevance here. What is under examination is whether he has a genuine track record of any credibility, that would allow him to claim compensating virtues for aiding and abetting murder. Any half-educated man of law would inform you and everybody else taking this line that a crime cannot be compensated by a subsequent act of virtue. However, it is obvious that Modi's defenders will gladly reach out for any straw that seems to offer a chance of survival of their rickety case.
LOL....no people are certainly NOT fools. They can see through cheap and shallow tricks. Time to change your modus operandi ?
It is interesting that you sprinkle your arguments with LOLs and smileys and then talk of cheap and shallow tricks.
OK.....so you are a Dalit and you HATE Hindus ...we all get that.
So slowly the mask of rationality slips, and the
ad hominem emerges. The Parivar never could keep to rational argument for very long.
How does it matter if I am a Dalit, or if I hate Hindus? Does it in any way affect my logic?
But Modi does not play caste politics. You accuse him of taking a stance, maybe you should explain what 'Anti Dalit' stance has Modi taken ?
I am puzzled.
I spoke about his taking a caste Hindu stand, not about his supporting upper caste Hindus, nor about his oppressing lower caste Hindus.
Do you have so much difficulty in comprehending the differences in the two?
Is your Hate for Modi only rooted in your hatred for Hindus and their revival? Do you fear that Hindu revival means 'untouchable' status for Dalits ?
Erm, you did mention straw man argument a little earlier. Are you blind to your own slipping into that mode? I do not hate Modi, I hate his criminal behaviour. I do not hate Hindus, and I have no problem with their revival, so long as it is not a zero sum game, and so long as it is not seen as necessary to achieve through the diminution of other creeds.
The question of Hindu revival meaning untouchable status for Dalits rather gives the game away. I didn't have such fears; you seem to have these thoughts.
If Hindu revival is healthy, nobody, not even Dalits, need to fear a negative outcome.
If Hindu revival is unhealthy, and based on bigotry, prejudice and caste contempt, the Dalits need to be fearful.
If you propose, or ask if it is a valid proposition that Hindu revival might lead to Dalit untouchability, evidently that thought is fairly strongly present in your mind. I wonder why. Nobody else raised it. Why did you suddenly stumble onto this? Is that what Hindu revival represents to you?
That is your Casteist view on things. You have a problem with India being 80% Hindus ......yes you called them 'caste hindus', but no one in their sane mind has declared Dalits as Non Hindus.
Desperate manoeuvres, as you see the corners into which you are painting yourself.
I have no problem with India being 80% Hindu. I have problems with India being even 5% bigoted Hindu.
I specified caste Hindus. There is a wide gulf between caste Hindus, non-caste Hindus, ie, Dalits, and non-Hindus. Dalits are not caste Hindus, and they are not non-Hindus either. No one in their sane mind would conflate the three categories. But then you were never suspected of being in that state of mind.
You want dalits to be Buddhist, no one oposes that either.
And where did I say that? Remember: straw man?
In fact RSS and sangh have always seen Buddhists as part of the 'Sangh'.
Bizarre is the kindest way to describe this statement.
Dalits convert to Buddhism to get away from the putrid treatment they get from caste Hindus, and caste Hindus then declare that they too are part of the framework that they just walked away from.
All of a sudden, we are flooded with straw men. None of these statements represent my point of view. Your desperation in not having anything to say, and having to manufacture a case, is understandable, but is also boringly trite.
You want Dalits to have a separate Identity, Buddhism to be declared as an Anti-Hindu religion so that you can sleep easy. You have a problem because RSS have made Buddhism, Jainism, Hinduism, Sikhism as part of the sangh. This is what riles you. Its a strange disorder.
...and the saga of the straw man continues.
What a heroic battle you are waging against the straw army! Like Rana Pratap, hisself. Talk of strange disorders.
The only one showing 'Hatred' is YOU. No amount of debate is going to ease your frustration against the Hindus or who you call 'Hindutva wadi'.
Not true.
I hate the bigotry that the Hindutvavadi presents. I do not hate Hindus, or Hinduism, any more or less than I hate Islam and Muslims, the Khalsa Panth and Sikhs, Buddhism and Buddhists, Jainism and Jains, Zoroastrianism and Parsis, Christianity or Christians.
You think RSS is a mirror image of you, but instead of hating Hindus (or is it 'caste Hindus') like you, you accuse them of Hating muslims.
This is total gibberish. What is it supposed to mean? Does anyone in his right mind think that the RSS does not hate Muslims? Does anyone in his right mind think that Hedgewar and Golwalkar have suddenly ceased to exist?
Corruption is ALWAYS comparative. Power ALWAYS Corrupts. See the link ? No party in India comes close to congress in corruption. Dont think there are too many political parties in the world that comes close to congress in corruption.
Aah...tap dancing around a subject has its limitations. It seems too clearly to be evasive action. I stand by what I said, exactly the way I said it.
Who cares
Actually most things are subjective and we understand their significance only with comparison to others.....
Umm....those who believe that the RSS/BJP represent a corruption-free alternative care.
At the end of the day, you have answers only in running away from points made, manufacturing your own target points and knocking them down. You have answers only in pleading for the crimes and injuries inflicted by your band of little angels to be forgiven because they are not sufficiently practised in crime. You can argue like this, but sadly, it only exposes the hollow nature of your arguments more and more. Keep on; you are bound to win a lot of converts to the opponents of the bigoted Sangh Parivar, the more you insist on making these toothpick-and-chewing-gum defences.
....maybe you are not a megalomaniac....just a maniac.
