Wikileaks:India, Iran Supported TTP

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

It still doesn't mean its from the wiki source. I'm sure countries that are involved in the accusations would undoubtedly have an article about it.

The guardian has posted the actual cables, not just an article based on them.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

yet you remain their major non-NATO ally fighting a war with them, receiving civilian and military aid from them, carrying out strategic dialogues with them and you still say you are not friends with them?

The US has limited coperation with Pakistan to help achieve its objectives, as is the case with us in cooperating with the US, but beyond the war against the Taliban and AQ, I see very little common ground.

 

[darkhand08]

UAE does not happen to be a source that can actually determine about India 's alleged support to TTP......if the Americans were the ones who were of this belief then it would hav been different but UAE??????? i dont think so.

 

[darkhand08]

Also GDSS believes India supported TTP ...they do not have any source to claim or any evidence to prove....

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Pakistan should support the Kurdish sepratists in iran

we can't do that; it will effect our ally Turkiye also as they are also dealing with this problem

it's too bad that Iran's enemies (some of whom we call friends) support Jundollah which had bad effect on Pakistan

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

it would be far more productive to take corrective measures to restore some order to the house.

The good part is that we don’t need a bloody revolution to bring about the much-needed changes. Of course, a lot depends on how much our leadership has learnt from its mistakes.

we need to be more clear-cut with our enemies and to the world in general.....if you **** with Pakistan, we will **** you right back. If you play dirty games against Pakistan, be prepared to lose the use of your right arm

 

[Abii]

I can't believe you Pakistanis are this foolish!!!
UAE is the size of a booger but you guys are bending over for it. Iran and UAE are ENEMIES
They will say anything about iran. Last week UAE was being accused of funding militants in Pakistan. Now you guys are badmouthing Iran because some cross dressing arab is running his mouth off about iran.
God this is frustrating

 

[Abii]

we can't do that; it will effect our ally Turkiye also as they are also dealing with this problem

it's too bad that Iran's enemies (some of whom we call friends) support Jundollah which had bad effect on Pakistan

and how the fudge would you guys be able to do that anyways? Kurds are 7 percent of IRan (4.6 million) and more than half are shia kurds who are extremely pro Iran and anti Kurdistan. They are practically at odds with other Kurds. That leaves 2 million sunni kurds scattered all the way from the borders of Afghanistan to Turkey. They are highly educated (unlike baluchis) and very integrated into the society. The Turkish pkk is always able to find dissidents among them but as a whole they are just as nationalist as Azaris and Parsis. The there is the $$$$$$$ issue. Funding **** in IRan will require cash that you don't have so stfu
The US with all its might has been trying to destabilize iran for 31 years and now two Pakistanis on defence.pk think they can fund insurgency in Iran with a few rupees lol


Edit: bombs have blown up again in Pakistan. Your arab friends are funding Alquida and the Taliban but Iran is the bad guy lol

 

[BATMAN]

Abii, don't get upset.... we have good wishes for Iran.
What matter is the evidence and only respective intelligence will decide the seriousness.
As many said Wikileaks have not revealed any thing new... every thing was more or less obvious or known.
Iran was not a friendly state of Pakistan.. it had alliance with India and Northern alliance.

Pay attention to 4:16 - 4:23

UAE vs. Iran is a separate debate.

 

[Iqbal_Brar]

Why forget about Iran and 'focus' on India Jana.??

After all we are supposed to be mortal enemies to you and this is what mortal enemies do. Not a big news.

Its the betrayal of 'friend& brother' Iran that is more serious and so lets focus on Iran.

Iran was never Pakistan's friend and brother.. infact ever since american puppet regime got overthrown in iran after islamic revolution Iran has always been pro-India.. except when india betrayed them and voted against them in UN.. iran does not like pakistan because they do not like other puppet pro-US regimes like pakistan..

There's no doubt India is supporting TTP but we don't need UAE's word for that. UAE doesn't have great relations with Iran so I can understand UAE saying that. Iran has no interests supporting TTP (unless someone can state some) so I don't see them supporting TTP.

They don't like Pakistan... Pakistan is US agent.. Thats one reason.

 

[pakdefender]

bottom line is there are a lot of countries ( stated 'friend' and stated 'foe' alike ) who are trying to screw with Pakistan , God knows why and what for but we need to return the favour in kind and in the same language to each and every one of them

 

[BATMAN]

bottom line is there are a lot of countires ( stated 'friend' and stated 'foe' alike ) who are trying to screw with Pakistan , God knows why and what for but we need to return the favour in kind and in the same language to each and every one of them

Pakistan have only 3 friends in this world.
1- Turkey
2- Saudi Arabia
3- China.

While in past i have stated many times that enemies of Pakistan are contemplating to wedge a rift among us.

If Iran had any hand in financing northern alliance or its subsidiary TTP than Iran has committed gross injustice to a peaceful neighbors in the name of religion.

 

[JayAtl]

There's no doubt India is supporting TTP but we don't need UAE's word for that. UAE doesn't have great relations with Iran so I can understand UAE saying that. Iran has no interests supporting TTP (unless someone can state some) so I don't see them supporting TTP.

whoa wait a minute. you have yelled and screamed for proof that ISI is involved with terrorist in other posts , yet you are so quick to take an " UAE diplomats / ruling class OPINION" - that Iran and India are involved - to then disregarded the Iranian part conveniently as rubbish while agreeing the Indian part to be true.

 

[Iqbal_Brar]

Pakistan have only 3 friends in this world.
1- Turkey
2- Saudi Arabia
3- China.

While in past i have stated many times that enemies of Pakistan are cooking to wedge a rift among us.

If Iran had any hand in financing northern alliance or its subsidiary TTP than Iran has committed gross injustice to a peaceful neighbors in the name of religion.

isn't Saudi army now training with Indian army from next year?? i think india is even building their own military training base in saudi arabia..

 

[Peshwa]

Patterson was expressing an opinion as well, using your logic.

Don't have an App for Def.pk, using my Samsung captivate to post on the actual site.

Brings me back to the argument of credibility of the person being quoted....

Patterson is an ambassador expressing her concern based on intel and other sources at her disposal....

The UAE official is unidentified, his position has not been released... I also refuse to believe that the official is privy to the level of info say a US ambassador to Pak is privy to....Being closer to ground zero is another advantage of the same....

Of course I consider Patterson more credible as will a majority of people...

Anyways....we can keep going on in circles....the point I was making was that even if UAE believes that we are supporting TTP, their stance towards support for India has not changed.....
Though the negative relationship between US and Pak is obviously due to such revelations about Pakistan that the local US diplomats encounter from time to time

Even if we assume that the Wikileaks are not "proof", I do think that this affects Pak a lot more considering your allies are dubious of your activities while UAEs opinion of Indian activities has not changed their stance towards India.