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Why Tunisia’s Transition to Democracy Is Succeeding While Egypt Falters

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This post originally ran on Juan Cole’s Web page.
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On Sunday, Tunisia’s parliament will vote on the final text of the new constitution. If it passes by a two-thirds vote, the text will not have to go to a national referendum, but just would become the organic law of the country. The constitution guarantees equal rights for women and wants gender equity in elections, and does not explicitly mandate Islamic law or sharia.

Tunisia’ parliament is 42% religious Right and the rest secular and ideological. The religious right (al-Nahda or the Renaissance Party) had the prime ministership but the speaker of parliament is a leftist and the president is a secular liberal.

Tunisia’s transition to democracy often has been troubled. Two horrific assassinations marred the process in 2013, with prominent leftists shot down. But the Tunisian political class dealt with those crises about as well as one could hope. The youth reassembled and demanded that the ruling al-Nahda or Renaissance prime minister step down. Organized labor stepped in as well. A compromise was hammered out– once the constitution is approved, Renaissance PM Larayyedh would step down in favor of a technocrat. The interim government will guide the country to further elections and referendums.
In contrast, Egypt has been a roller coaster ride. It had 7 elections and referendums, but none of its high officials today has been elected to anything. The parliament elected in late fall of 2011, top-heavy with Muslim fundamentalists, was struck down for electoral fraud in June of 2012. The president elected in June 2012 was deposed by a military coup on July 3 of 2013. It has had two new constitutions, neither crafted democratically. In Egypt, the fundamentalists who were in power 2012-13 cracked down on the April 6 youth movement. In fall of 2013, the government appointed by Gen. al-Sisi, finished the new constitution, and it was put to a vote in this month’s referendum.

What explains the different outcomes?

1. The army stayed above the fray in Tunisia. In Egypt it repeatedly intervened, helping destabilize the country. The government Egypt has today, 3 years after the Tahrir revolution, was simply appointed by the officer corps, though further elections are promised.

2. The religious Right in Tunisia was cautious. Disciplined by neighboring Algeria’s decade-long civil war, al-Nahda avoided deeply polarizing moves. It gave up on putting sharia or Islamic law in the constitution. It allowed a middle class pushback against inroads against women’s rights. It agreed to step down in favor of a technocrat after last summer’s assassination.

3. The national labor union, the UGTT (General Union of Tunisian Workers) is relatively independent and powerful in Tunisia. It could thus lobby the government and step in as mediators in fall of 2013. Egypt’s labor unions are neither so independent nor so powerful.
4. The secularists in Tunisia did not demand a ban on the al-Nahda religious government. Those in Egypt did. Egypt’s attempt to exclude the Muslim Brotherhood altogether from social and political power has caused constant demonstrations.

5. Tunisia’s economy improved slightly. After a difficult 2011 and 2012, in 2013 Tunisia’s economy grew 2.3 percent. Egypt has continued to suffer economic contraction, with tourism 40% off in 2013 between the Brotherhood’s policies and those of the junta.
Muslim religious and political thinker Rashid al-Ghanoushi said in Tunis on Saturday that once the parliament approves the constitution on Sunday, Tunisia will be on its way to being the first Arab democracy. (He may be overly hasty in discounting Lebanon.) Egypt in contrast is on its way to being the 16th military dictatorship in the history of the Arab League.

Juan Cole: Why Tunisia’s Transition to Democracy Is Succeeding While Egypt Falters -Juan Cole -Truthdig
 
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Simple. Tunisian Democracy prospers and is successful because Democracy mushrooms in Educated Societies. Tunisian people are a lot more intelligent and educated than Egyptian masses.
 
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I think reason 4 is the most important. Tolerance is the key for any democratic society to survive, but unfortunately in Egypt it seems the hate between the liberals and religious right has reached such levels that they see each other as criminals. Similar to Pakistan I might add, where the disdain with which the two groups see each other is similar . To call someone a "liberal" amongsts the right in Pakistan from my experiance has been like calling them a sell out, or one who has lost his culture, whereas on the other side many "liberals" will use the term "mullah" or "imam" for anybody who appears to oppose westernisation.
Anyways I have the best wishes for both these countries and hope the violence in Egypt can come to an end soon.
 
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Tunisia is very secular which I believe and not many are religious hence less problem when outnumbered and more prefer democratic process.

Egypt has bigger population, islamic history, more religious among Salafist and education etc so that's why there's problem between them and secular opposition.
 
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Tunisia is very secular which I believe and not many are religious hence less problem when outnumbered and more prefer democratic process.

Egypt has bigger population, islamic history, more religious among Salafist and education etc so that's why there's problem between them and secular opposition.

That and Bourguiba , their first president has created, nurtured and encouraged a political elite, that does not exist in any Arab country. And the results of his reign paid off today..Kudos for Tunisians!
 
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That and Bourguiba , their first president has created, nurtured and encouraged a political elite, that does not exist in any Arab country. And the results of his reign paid off today..Kudos for Tunisians!
we don't need to glorify Bourguiba he is a dictator as bin Ali
the glory is need to given to Tunisian people
 
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Simple. Tunisian Democracy prospers and is successful because Democracy mushrooms in Educated Societies. Tunisian people are a lot more intelligent and educated than Egyptian masses.

Respectfully disagree.

Democracy is issue based. Even illiterates have an idea of freedom of expression.

Tunisia is lucky that it has neighbours who do not interfere much in its politics like KSA does in Egypt.

But if the religious right is fully supported by some neighbours which is a possibility, Tunisia will become Algeria of the 90s.
 
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I think reason 4 is the most important. Tolerance is the key for any democratic society to survive, but unfortunately in Egypt it seems the hate between the liberals and religious right has reached such levels that they see each other as criminals. Similar to Pakistan I might add, where the disdain with which the two groups see each other is similar . To call someone a "liberal" amongsts the right in Pakistan from my experiance has been like calling them a sell out, or one who has lost his culture, whereas on the other side many "liberals" will use the term "mullah" or "imam" for anybody who appears to oppose westernisation.
Anyways I have the best wishes for both these countries and hope the violence in Egypt can come to an end soon.
Respectfully disagree.

Democracy is issue based. Even illiterates have an idea of freedom of expression.

Tunisia is lucky that it has neighbours who do not interfere much in its politics like KSA does in Egypt.

But if the religious right is fully supported by some neighbours which is a possibility, Tunisia will become Algeria of the 90s.
we have high rat of literacy
Youth (15-24 years) literacy rate (%) 2007-2011*, male

98

Youth (15-24 years) literacy rate (%) 2007-2011*, female

96

UNICEF - Tunisia - Statistics
we will not be like Algeria of the 90s we have a elite forces ready
 
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i think it is too early to say no one knows what would the future be like i think we should wait about 5 years and see how is Egypt tunis libya syria the countries which got rid of their rulers
by the way as long as the west is pleased with something then there is something wrong i was worrierd after mubark the west was happy after morsi the west support the brotherhood and became hostile to Egypt then i knew we are walking in the right way
 
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i think it is too early to say no one knows what would the future be like i think we should wait about 5 years and see how is Egypt tunis libya syria the countries which got rid of their rulers
by the way as long as the west is pleased with something then there is something wrong i was worrierd after mubark the west was happy after morsi the west support the brotherhood and became hostile to Egypt then i knew we are walking in the right way

West doesn't support the MB at all and neither did their gulf allies. You know this very well.
 
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West doesn't support the MB at all and neither did their gulf allies. You know this very well.
the west supports the MB
the US cut off the aid to our army
the western media support the brotherhood day and night
alot of brotherhood members are right now in the UK
qatar this tiny country which has the largest US air force base support the brotherhood with all they got
obama statement
President Barack Obama condemned the deadly violence in Egypt and said the U.S. is canceling plans to hold joint military exercises with the country next month. Watch the full statement.
the west may say they oppose extremests but their actions serve them all the time
 
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That's not true, if anything the West and Israel were anti MB and wanted to test them. This is why they only had two years in power. They won't accept MB to rule such an Arabic nation as Egypt.

Also, the US is playing games just to appear as if it's taking caution and is neutral, they're however liars and in direct contact with Egyptian military and many westerners have praised the military and despise the MB. Western media also during their power spread false news and made people paranoid to visit Egypt and it's tourism plummeted because they want them to fail.

US already is getting the aid back. Obama can say all he wants, however only of recently will people including Egyptians rally against Sisi because he's taking things too far.
 
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That's not true, if anything the West and Israel were anti MB and wanted to test them. This is why they only had two years in power. They won't accept MB to rule such an Arabic nation as Egypt.

Also, the US is playing games just to appear as if it's taking caution and is neutral, they're however liars and in direct contact with Egyptian military and many westerners have praised the military and despise the MB. Western media also during their power spread false news and made people paranoid to visit Egypt and it's tourism plummeted because they want them to fail.

US already is getting the aid back. Obama can say all he wants, however only of recently will people including Egyptians rally against Sisi because he's taking things too far.
my friend all of this are just rumors this is brotherhood propganda i posted links what actions did the west do to harm the brotherhood rule ?
the brotherhood protests are getting less numbers over the time they have done their worse after reab3a and Egypt still standing and will forever stand proud
 
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