Why the US should offer to buy France's submarines for Vietnam

[cochine]

The French government says it was betrayed when Australia pulled out of their existing multi-billion dollar defense deal, agreeing instead ... but in the past The Vladivostok is the first of two Mistral-class amphibious assault ships that Russia had ordered from France in a contract worth $1.2bn is canceled by france. Who can trust on France govt ?

 

[IblinI]

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I know I am asking too much from a guy like you, but at least do some research, the guy in the second pic was a South viet soldier, and he deserved some respect.

 

[IblinI]

Read again. My response was for a poster, joke or not, who claimed we can defeat chinese navy with AK.
we have no chance against China in any scenario at seas, even with 12 submarines. The gap is simply too big.
We are good on land battles in infantry.
At seas our chance 50:50 at best scenario.
Just a honest assessment
As consequence I am in favor that Vietnam enters a military alliance.

What is your assessment when it comes to air battle and EW.

 

[cochine]

I know I am asking too much from a guy like you, but at least do some research, the guy in the second pic was a South viet soldier, and he deserved some respect.

In 1979, south viet soldiers were mostly in Cambodia to help Husen, North Viet local army troopes had at first to fight with Chinese in border area of us,

 

[IblinI]

In 1979, south viet soldiers were mostly in Cambodia to help Husen, North Viet local army troopes had at first to fight with Chinese in border area of us,

What are you on about, is was telling you the person in the second pic was a South Vietnamese.

 

[Zarvan]

To compensate for this loss. USA would encourage some countries like Morocco and Saudi Arabia and UAE and few others to go for French submarines. I can see that happening in next few months.

 

[xyxmt]

you can kiss all the US a$$es you want but you wont get the good stuff, ask India

 

[IblinI]

Photo is from Sino Vietnam war in 1979. The PLA is kneed before North Vietnamese from VPA, my kid !


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One more photo for you.

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Is that what your party have been fooling you people around?
First of all, you don't need some scientist brain to differentiate the standard uniform and shoes between this man and PLA soldier, secondly, the only unit that was captured by VPA during the war was 8th company of 448 regiment, 150th division, total of 200ish people.
Which all of them returned safely during the POW exchanged.
Your general are certainly smarter than you to know the consequences of executing PLA soldier when PLA holds more than a thousand vietnam war prisoner during the war, let alone taken photo and posted out.

Lastly, you are reported for personal insult.

 

[艹艹艹]

Great friendship

 

[REhorror]

Should we?

IMO, it's better to make missiles.

 

[Viet]

What is your assessment when it comes to air battle and EW.

Assuming we are in a defensive position we could hold on for a while. Vietnam has a massive air defense. It would require a massive aerial bombardment to destroy or suppress our air defense. Similar to what the US tried it. To soften our defense lines for land attack. About EW, or drone attacks, the US airforce had it in the war. That’s not new. certainly technology has improved. Vietnam airplanes because of fewer in numbers would attack enemy planes out of ambush.
Our strategy must be to avoid a surprise decapitation strike and turn to a war of attrition.

 

[IblinI]

Assuming we are in a defensive position we could hold on for a while. Vietnam has a massive air defense. It would require a massive aerial bombardment to destroy or suppress our air defense. Similar to what the US tried it. To soften our defense lines for land attack. About EW, or drone attacks, the US airforce had it in the war. That’s not new. certainly technology has improved. Vietnam airplanes because of fewer in numbers would attack enemy planes out of ambush.
Our strategy must be to avoid a surprise decapitation strike and turn to a war of attrition.

Positive attitude is good for a person, anyway, thanks for your time.

 

[cochine]

Is that what your party have been fooling you people around?
First of all, you don't need some scientist brain to differentiate the standard uniform and shoes between this man and PLA soldier, secondly, the only unit that was captured by VPA during the war was 8th company of 448 regiment, 150th division, total of 200ish people.
Which all of them returned safely during the POW exchanged.
Your general are certainly smarter than you to know the consequences of executing PLA soldier when PLA holds more than a thousand vietnam war prisoner during the war, let alone taken photo and posted out.

Lastly, you are reported for personal insult.

You can not denny that the boy is kneed is not Chinese.

You can check the link in bellow.

What China's last major war tells us about how it will fight the next one

China's military has changed dramatically since the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War, but that brief conflict is still relevant for Beijing and its neighbors.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[cochine]

Great friendship

Yes, this friendship is greater !

 

[leviathan]

Assuming we are in a defensive position we could hold on for a while. Vietnam has a massive air defense. It would require a massive aerial bombardment to destroy or suppress our air defense. Similar to what the US tried it. To soften our defense lines for land attack. About EW, or drone attacks, the US airforce had it in the war. That’s not new. certainly technology has improved. Vietnam airplanes because of fewer in numbers would attack enemy planes out of ambush.
Our strategy must be to avoid a surprise decapitation strike and turn to a war of attrition.

lol another viet having web dream. Still day dreaming a air war from last century。

Sukhoi Su-22	Fighter-bomber	Su-22M4/UM3K	Soviet Union	34[3]
Sukhoi Su-27	Multirole fighter	Su-27SK/UBK/PU	Russia	11[4]
Su-30MK2	Su-30MK2V	35[4][

S-75 Dvina	Surface-to-air missile	S-75M Volga	Soviet Union Russia	65[14]	received 30 updated S-75M Volga
S-125 Neva/Pechora	S-125 Pechora 2TM	40[14]	Belarus received 3 updated S-125 Pechora 2TM
2K12 Kub		10[14]	tracked medium-range surface-to-air missile system
S-300 missile system		2 systems[16]
9K35 Strela-10		20[14]	tracked short-range surface-to-air missile system
SPYDER	SPYDER-MR	Israel	6 systems200 Python-5 & 200 Derby missiles[14]

this is everything, 20ish flyable aircraft and one modern s300 regiment. Its even weaker than Iraq 20 years ago. This massive air defense will wipe out by China in few hours if not in minutes.

People's Army of Vietnam :US$ 7.46 billion USD (2021)
Beijing university budget :US$ 3.1 billion USD (2021)