Why the US May Go to War in the SCS

[Neemo neemo]

Very difficult question
Let me see:
Indians - they can be the supa powa at last
Finally this is the only chance to realise their dream that has been keeping them wetting their pants for over 60 years

India, that too in SCS?
You my friend are, either obsessed with India, or you are high on some green.

 

[mike2000]

Tell me 1 country worth fighting against which US has won?
USSR? Nope
Russia? Nope
China? Nope
Any other similarly powerful country?
Hell, US hasn't won even against Afghanistan and Iraq yet.
For so called "US can defeat anyone anywhere" - Remember Vietnam?

Well i think my friend Chennai Dude went abit overboard.
Well you are right the U.S wouldnt be able/stand a chance of winning a land war in Russian or Chinese soil(neither in their neighbourhood either). However, in any naval conflict the U.S will beat any country with ease(though with some damge/casualties as well). Moreover U.S power projections/capabilities are simply unmatched by any country on earth, since they U.S can launch a war in any corner of the globe, meanwhile no other U.S rival can. So the U.S can effectively blackade either China or Russia from world trade/shipping lanes(though that as well might involve these countries calling for a nuclear strike/response, but thats another topic altogether.).

 

[ashok mourya]

prc supa powa only good at warnings....and real old super power now only good at analysis.....but threat american nukes just saved roc from imperialist of china...it happened why not again...everything is possible.....

 

[mike2000]

prc supa powa only good at warnings....and real old super power now only good at analysis.....but threat american nukes just saved roc from imperialist of china...it happened why not again...everything is possible.....

You mean Russia?

 

[Neemo neemo]

Well i think my friend Chennai Dude went abit overboard.
Well you are right the U.S wouldnt be able/stand a chance of winning a land war in Russian or Chinese soil. However, in any naval conflict the U.S will beat any country with ease(though with some damge/casualties as well). Moreover U.S power projections/capabilities are simply unmatched by any country on earth, since they U.S can launch a war in any corner of the globe, meanwhile no other U.S rival can. So the U.S can effectively blackade either China or Russia from world trade/shipping lanes(though that as well might involve these countries calling for a nuclear strike/response, but thats another topic altogether.).

That's what i said dude, in an earlier thread.
USN undoubtedly is a great power. It can defeat any navy in the world at any given day, however wars are not won in water, nor in air.
For US to win any war, US has to land troops and win significantly, and that my friend is utterly tough if not impossible against any powerful nation. Which US is still has to do against any credible power.

P.S. - US can attack any powerful country, and win some battles as well, But can not win the war.

 

[ChennaiDude]

How many countries have the US defeated so far in the past in a war that involved China - when China was really backward in weaponry and when US was much advanced and backed by its allies

None so far!. But guess what No country has yet taken on the US directly and survived...so going by statistics available...Do you want to take on the US directly?

 

[Nova2]

You mean Russia?

Naah,maybe britain if at all its was a supa powa

 

[ChennaiDude]

Tell me 1 country worth fighting against which US has won?
USSR? Nope
Russia? Nope
China? Nope
Any other similarly powerful country?
Hell, US hasn't won even against Afghanistan and Iraq yet.
For so called "US can defeat anyone anywhere" - Remember Vietnam?

Boss!..Where does Vietnam stand right now.....Where does Russia/USSR stand right now....come to the US for a visit....there is no unrest anywhere in the US compared to China or Russia or Vietnam....Now the only one country that directly attacked the US was Imperial Japan. .and you know the history...Then came AQ(911)..well you know what is happening and what has happened after that...No need to defeat anyone. Just keep bleeding them.. Business is good.

 

[Neemo neemo]

None so far!. But guess what No country has yet taken on the US directly and survived...so going by statistics available...Do you want to take on the US directly?

Dude, Vietnam?

 

[mike2000]

None so far!. But guess what No country has yet taken on the US directly and survived...so going by statistics available...Do you want to take on the US directly?

thing is, as i said earlier none of these countries : CHINA, RUSSIA, U.S can affford to fight each other directly, IN NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL THAT EVER HAPPEN.
However they might be involve against each other indirectly.like in Ukraine, SCS etc. but never a direct fight/war.

 

[gambit]

Dude, Vietnam?

No. The NVA/VC was militarily defeated. It was political weariness that compelled the US to leave Viet Nam, not military defeats. Do not confuse political goals with military objectives.

 

[Neemo neemo]

Boss!..Where does Vietnam stand right now.....Where does Russia/USSR stand right now....come to the US for a visit....there is no unrest anywhere in the US compared to China or Russia or Vietnam....Now the only one country that directly attacked the US was Imperial Japan. .and you know the history...Then came AQ(911)..well you know what is happening and what has happened after that...No need to defeat anyone. Just keep bleeding them.. Business is good.

"US can defeat anyone, anywhere" -those were your words, right? and the bold part in quote?

You my dear are surely confuse whether to defeat or bleed your enemies?

 

[mike2000]

Dude, Vietnam?

Well tbh bro, vietnam isnt really a good example, since it was more of a fight between the U.S.S.R /China(together with their ally north Vietnam soldiers) and the U.S/with its South Vietnamese allies being fought in Vietnam.
Without the U.S.S.R and China , The U.S/south Vietnamese soldiers would have long run over the north in a matter of weeks.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Well i think my friend Chennai Dude went abit overboard.
Well you are right the U.S wouldnt be able/stand a chance of winning a land war in Russian or Chinese soil(neither in their neighbourhood either). However, in any naval conflict the U.S will beat any country with ease(though with some damge/casualties as well). Moreover U.S power projections/capabilities are simply unmatched by any country on earth, since they U.S can launch a war in any corner of the globe, meanwhile no other U.S rival can. So the U.S can effectively blackade either China or Russia from world trade/shipping lanes(though that as well might involve these countries calling for a nuclear strike/response, but thats another topic altogether.).

In todays world unless nukes are involved nobody can defeat any country!..Thats a fact..but what can happen is war on their Economy will be something that needs to be taken into consideration...No.

 

[Neemo neemo]

No. The NVA/VC was militarily defeated. It was political weariness that compelled the US to leave Viet Nam, not military defeats. Do not confuse political goals with military objectives.

US did not defeat Vietnam. Period.

If you think US did, please explain me your definition of 'complete success'.