Why the Ban on Cow Slaughter is not Just Anti-Farmer but Anti-Cow as Well

[haviZsultan]

Actually I am glad that you answer me with so decency and patience, because most of the members here finds my post rubbish LOLZ

Thank you. We can all put our points without insults and abuse. I try to stay calm though I am very emotional.

I am a Hindu but still could not find the meaning of Hindutva in PDF here. Why do you consider it as the sacrifice of the muslims. We live in a society and are social organism, so we make some changes and compromise in many things. Suppose a child is born in your family, and at the same time a man dies in accident in your neighbourhood, so its your comprimise, and social duty to lower your Music system in your house a little bit, for the feelings of the others. Do you consider it a Sacrifice. If you think that it is a sacrifice, than I am sure my Muslim friends and brothers won't back up from making it. I can tell you because I have many Muslim friends.

If you would tell the person that the music system should be off for the rest of the life of the person he might object. This ban is not about not eating beef for one day, two days, a week or even a month. It is meant to be a permanent ban which is an attack on religious freedom and makes it a crime to eat what is available to us (according to hadith we muslims are supposed to eat all that has been made legal to us) In Pakistan examples are of the banning of alcohol even for minorities during ZAB rule. Why should I condemn that selectively and not this. It is exactly the same thing and both things are prohibited in muslim or Hindu religion.

Muslims eat beef and my people in Lucknow will be the most effected. It has nothing to do with religious harmony. Its the muslims surrendering something, in this case their basic right for the Hindus. The criteria for a loyal muslim has always been wrong. He has to sing Bande Mataram, stop eating beef, dress up as Hindu Gods. A good way to support or respect Hindus would be to celebrate holi together and give veggie food when Hindu friends arrive in our house. I don't think anyone should be surrendering his life.

For the Kashmiri I can tell you from my experience in Srinagar. My father was in Army and Army have their own Dairy, Military Farm, and often Kashmiri farmers comes there to ask for the Male Calf, saying their cow gave birth to dead baby, so give us male calf, so that the cow have the baby, now don't you know the army personel or I am so ignorant to see what they seek the male calf. And many of time they are given for free. When I was young going to school, there was one Uncle, local resident named Manjoora Ahmaed, who was the government employee working in MES. He used to come to our house and was very close to us, he stop eating BEEF, may be we influenced him, but we never asked him to Ban Beef in his House.

See, you don't get it. Should I judge how friendly a Hindu is towards muslims or how much inter faith harmony he has by his eating of beef. Does this prove he loves muslims? Similarly should a muslims love for hindus be judged by the fact he is willing to eat pork. Both things are against the religion for each. This is exactly what I am saying.

Manjoora Ahmed should not have to give up eating of beef just to please Hindus.

This focus or problems for minorities stem from here. We seek to 1) link them either with our religion (dress up as lord Ram)... they do this and they are losing their freedom
2) Constantly when raised with the question of their rights tell them India is doing so and so oppression of muslims (For Pakistani Hindus) and Pakistan is doing so and so oppression of muslims (For Indian Muslims) so compared to that we are doing well. It is a means to absolve ourselves of responsibility by shifting blame.

Sorry couldn't get your point, and don't think anyone in India is eating Monkeys and cows. There are so much monkeys and their terror rule in Agra and Mathura, and animal activist have other ways of dealing with their population, that includes, catching them and relocating them.

I just talked about population control. You don't know how much trouble we have with monkeys cows and dogs in our neighborhood in Lucknow. No one eats monkeys but the thing is they are in our area and climb on roofs. We are not allowed to shoot them as respect to Hindus. They should all be put in cages and cattle pens, cows, dogs and monkeys... all of them.

I asked Yes Or No. Beef Ban dosen't include Buffalow, this is what most muslim and even some Hindus eats (Poor)

Only our governments can do something like this and only our South Asians can support this attack on basic rights of a human being. In the end Indians will suffer because of the ban:

Here’s why India is set to lose status of world’s largest beef exporter | The Indian Express

So what would you say when the group of local people beats some Muslim guys in the truck, who were taking cows in the most degraded and torturous way packed inside the truck, many of them have their neck brooken, bloody eyes and though them on the road from the speeding truck thus broke their legs, when the police tries to stop them for illegal animal poaching.

I am glad that India has a human rights bill but again what about the Muslims. Muslims who abide by the law will increasingly be cut off from muslims around the world. There is a festival called bakr eid when we sacrifice cows. It is unfortunate that cows have to suffer but its better than human suffering.

Watching the Plights of Hundereds of Cows on the middle of the road in summer heat, the villagers trying to help the innocient and unvoiced agony of the animal got angry and beat the shits of the truck driver and the helpers who are innocent Muslim victims, and then the Story of the Bajrang Dal Came from No where.

I don't think Bajrang Dal and RSS are innocent here. Taking law into your own hands is the first step. Look how Abdul Aziz did the same in Islamabad and a rebellion began throughout FATA and even Swat. India should rein in its Hindutvas or the situation may get far worse.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Thanks for admitting you are trying to control the muslims and their thought. It will never succeed.

It has succeeded.

 

[Zibago]

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[Mitro]

As a Muslim we are ok without holy cow let Dalit fight for their cow lol

 

[Khafee]

I am living in UAE since my birth i never see any Pakistani or any other Muslims who is selling Urine for drinking
@Khafee @Indus Falcon both guys also from UAE did you guys see any body in UAE who selling urine for drinking.
@waz @Horus

Sir, You are absolutely right. IF you do find out, do let me know, I'll make sure that they are shut down, and kicked out of the country.

 

[desimorty]

The BJP can't push their COW agenda for long as long as social media and the young gen like big macs.

 

[Bang Galore]

The BJP can't push their COW agenda for long as long as social media and the young gen like big macs.

Err...where would they eat it? In the U.S.?

 

[desimorty]

Err...where would they eat it? In the U.S.?

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I'd imagine they'd want to eat in India. I want beef. A lot of Indians are turning to meat.
To any educated person, a GOVT. org or whome ever can NOT decide for you what you CAN and CANNOT eat.
Other than your doctor.
You remember the **** thing? You think the beef thing isn't just as ridiculous?