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Why Saudi Arabia Is Building a Floating City

A very interesting and strategic move I would say is how KSA is moving toward the West, Israel and Europe. It is doing this by turning away from Asia and Africa.

This is best seen in how NEOM is actually couple of miles from Israel and the Mediteranean. This suggests the country will move it's centre of gravity toward Europe and Israel. Clever move I must say!

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What do Negroes and Desi's have to offer? Nothing. What does Israel/the West have to offer? Everything. Just copy the Turks and you will succeed.

One day NEOM will be another Istanbul with bars, mosques, global trade and escort girls lubricating billion dollar deals. Desi's can come along to clean the toilets/. Negroes can be kept out.

Sadly I won't see this Saudia. Wait till 2080.
NEOM is a city state.. it will have it's own policies but in the frame of the Saudi law..
There is a part of it extending to Jordan and another extending to Egypt..

Not necessarily towards the West alone.. there is Japan and China involved and some western countries of course.. Saudi Arabia don't want anything from Israel..as all the technologies it needs ..it can get them from elsewhere.. remember that this city will be the most unique and advanced in the world..and concentrate on Unique..

 
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NEOM is a city state.. it will have it's own policies but in the frame of the Saudi law..
There is a part of it extending to Jordan and another extending to Egypt..

City-state is quite a stretch my friend. The geographical area of NEOM is huge. I mean while it is a very tiny area of KSA it equals Belgium in size to put it into perspective. In the regional perspective it is larger than Israel and Kuwait combined.

"Covering a total area of over 26,500 sq-km (10,230 sq-miles) - larger than Kuwait or Israel -"


City-states in my view are the likes of Singapore, Dubai, Vatican, Monaco etc.

As for distinct laws, is this an official policy or just talk?
 
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We are all mortal and good thing it is so. My wife has already gone. I don't particularly want to live for long. Another decade to see my children consolidate their lives would be nice. I have done everything, almost. Good, bad and some terrible. I have some regrets but I cant fix them now. Non of us can go back in time. So death is kind of freedom waiting at the end. And that is nice.

We should not fear it providing we have done everything we wanted to. To not have lived is to fear death. But I have lived.Like I said another decade and I will go with a smile to my maker. Maybe even get to join my wife again!

Now that would be nice.

My condolences regards to the wife may she be in a better place in Jannah.
I thought honestly you'd be part of the younger crowd seems your 50+?

But yes, we all have to go some day I guess its how you go out and the legacy you leave behind.
 
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City-state is quite a stretch my friend. The geographical area of NEOM is huge. I mean while it is a very tiny area of KSA it equals Belgium in size to put it into perspective. In the regional perspective it is larger than Israel and Kuwait combined.

"Covering a total area of over 26,500 sq-km (10,230 sq-miles) - larger than Kuwait or Israel -"


City-states in my view are the likes of Singapore, Dubai, Vatican, Monaco etc.

As for distinct laws, is this an official policy or just talk?
It is true.. but a city state within KSA.. it will have a distinct law..but withing the Saudi law.. except for the Jordanian and Egyptian extentions who will have the law of the land.. for example westerners living in NEOM or tourists can go party wildly in the Egyptian extension.. as everything is possible..
 
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Anyway the nature around NEOM is really nice, honestly speaking. It could become a tourist Makkah with its mild climate and nature.

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The many islands next to NEOM

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It is true.. but a city state within KSA.. it will have a distinct law..but withing the Saudi law.. except for the Jordanian and Egyptian extentions who will have the law of the land.. for example westerners living in NEOM can go party wildly in the Egyptian extension.. as everything is possible..

Is it confirmed that NEOM will expand into Jordan and Egypt? From what I understood NEOM will be connected to those two countries but NEOM itself will solely be located in KSA. After all KSA is not likely to pay to expand NEOM into Sinai and Jordan. I think that NEOM will connect (naturally) to Sinai and Jordan with the Egyptians and Jordanians themselves developing their own nearby areas. That would be logical at least.
 
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A very interesting and strategic move I would say is how KSA is moving toward the West, Israel and Europe. It is doing this by turning away from Asia and Africa.

This is best seen in how NEOM is actually couple of miles from Israel and the Mediteranean. This suggests the country will move it's centre of gravity toward Europe and Israel. Clever move I must say!

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What do Negroes and Desi's have to offer? Nothing. What does Israel/the West have to offer? Everything. Just copy the Turks and you will succeed.

One day NEOM will be another Istanbul with bars, mosques, global trade and escort girls lubricating billion dollar deals. Desi's can come along to clean the toilets/. Negroes can be kept out.

Sadly I won't see this Saudia. Wait till 2080.
Negroes here, negroes there, an elder person like yourself, living in the so called democratic west should be ashamed of himself .....
 
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Indeed. It is actually a testament to how attractive the Western model is that even such people, supposedly staunch ant-Western people, continue to inhabit it rather than move somewhere else! I won't lie either, while I don't approve of all Western policies in regards to Pakistan and large parts of the Muslim world (the recent coup being an obvious point of contention) to put it mildly, I would never prefer the likes of China over it. To me China is a completely alien civilization. It could be due to racial (we are all Caucasians after all regardless of skin color), linguistic reasons or religious (Abrahamic family), exposure or whatever but honestly almost everything about China is completely foreign to me. Maybe this will change in 100 years if Chinese culture and language will gain an outreach similar to the Western ones but I hardly doubt that this will ever occur.

I like most of MBS reforms which are sound and realistic and the silencing/removal of most of the hardliners (clerics) that had hijacked KSA. His approach is much more organic and moderate than what we saw with Ataturk in the 1920's or the Shah in Iran but times have also changed. Anyway I am curious to see where KSA will be in 10-20 years time. From the outside they look to have a bright future but you can never know, less so in a region like West Asia which unfortunately has been ravaged by senseless wars, conflicts and useless leaders by large for way too long.

As for Israel, it would be ideal for peace to emerge and a two-state solution but not sure how realistic it is in the short term. Until that, I don't think that MBS will recognize Israel. Anyway what does it even matter, so many Muslim countries have already done so and most if not all of them have dealings with them directly or indirectly. Nothing on the ground changed the fact that Egypt, Turkey, Jordan and the many other Muslim-majority nations recognized Israel. I think that all this is about PR.
I sort of disagree with you.

I met some staunch Pakistani Muslims and Pakistani Nationalists in Saudi Arabia in the Aramco camps.

For them living in Pakistan was everything, they would never leave it, even if India dropped a nuclear bomb in Pakistan, because for them it is a Muslim country to be loyal to.

Those Pakistanis who went to the West elsewhere just did it for higher education or better opportunities or just for money.

My abba keeps telling me he only cares about his family's religion and thats it.

@Indus Pakistan

The reality is that the entire world is built as a mirage of the Western world and Western world order. A sleeping giant like China (reemerging at least) is trying to change the status quo but it will probably be contained and fail to rival the Western cultural and economic outreach. To begin with the Chinese are very insular looking historically speaking, never creating any empires outside of their traditional lands/sphere of interest. The containment will be done by the usual suspects (Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, India, and dare I say Russia once Putin dies/is removed and they return to their fellow European/Western family that Russia belongs to).

A part of me beliefs that our military "elite", aside from the usual corruption, business/family etc. ties to the same West (none of it exists in regards to China) see where all this is going.

Interestingly enough Chinese people themsleves are some of the biggest Western-fixated people that I have ever met. If they had a choice they would ally themselves with the same Western world order!

So I don't blame KSA for looking towards the West. However as far as the location of NEOM goes, I think that a lot of this can be explained by the nearby Suez Canal. Have in mind that 15% (!), which is a huge number, of ALL world trade passes through it. I also think that a milder climate plays a role here and the combination of a pristine coastline, mountains and desert as well as a largely undeveloped and not very populated area plays a big role here.

Looking at history, the same West has played various Arab regimes against each other and helped keep it as a backwater since WW1. I would argue that this is a deliberate policy.

As for NEOM going that way (Western way), I am afraid that by 2080 the entire world will look like that for good and bad. I hope that this won't be the case but I will be dead by then (likely).


Anyway in recent months after extensive readings, I have realized that we are all prisoners/puppets in this modern-day Western construct that we call the world by large. The world has never in its history been this similar by large. It is actually a bit of a tragedy to think about. Youth from Congo to Papua New Guinea are all dreaming about the same things and trends like anywhere else by large.



Not realistic. It would be better to harvest the billions of liter of wasted rainwater that runs directly form the large mountain areas of KSA into the Red Sea as described in the video that I posted. That alone could turn a landmass the 3-4 times the size of Bangladesh into fertile lands.

When I lived in KSA, when it flooded it really flooded. Due to the arid soil (largely) large rainfall turned into floods really quickly.





Also due to remarkably lack of drainage sewage system in some places.

As far as population goes, by 2100 populations will decrease everywhere and numbers will play a much smaller role given technology and automatization (robotics). Have in mind that Arabia today has a population of 100 million. In fact the Arab world has a too big population. I read that by 2050-2060 it will approach 800-1 billion. Not sure how realistic that is with climate changes etc. A recipe for disaster IMO.



My condolences. Sad to hear. I hope that you will find some strength to keep going. Even when Pakistan is sinking at the moment. Children are life's biggest blessing. Nothing comes close to it. Seeing them grow up is enough reason to keep yourself alive IMO.

It is a privilege to have no regrets. Few people can say that.
Interesting analysis.

The West tries to keep the Muslim countries behind and backward and technologically behind.

They cannot tolerate development in Muslim majority countries.


Because they know they would lose their leverage over countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.

But China is the biggest alternative to EU + USA.

Haha, Chinese like the western standard of living, and lifestyles, not their culture. lol.

I have met quite a few Chinese nationalists myself in university.

From his Buddhist perspective he said "Abrahamic religions" have conquered the world, it has conquered it.
 
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My Chinese classmate at university told me the West has the upper hand because of their technological superiority.

And he said the West will stop at nothing to maintain their technological superiority at all costs.
They also cannot tolerate alternative choices to the West.

The West are hypocrites that they talk competition but are anti-competitive in their business tactics as well.
 
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Anyway the nature around NEOM is really nice, honestly speaking. It could become a tourist Makkah with its mild climate and nature.

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Is it confirmed that NEOM will expand into Jordan and Egypt? From what I understood NEOM will be connected to those two countries but NEOM itself will solely be located in KSA. After all KSA is not likely to pay to expand NEOM into Sinai and Jordan. I think that NEOM will connect (naturally) to Sinai and Jordan with the Egyptians and Jordanians themselves developing their own nearby areas. That would be logical at least.
If KSA allows foreigners to buy property in NEOM then Insah'Allah I will buy or build a house there.
 
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Is it confirmed that NEOM will expand into Jordan and Egypt? From what I understood NEOM will be connected to those two countries but NEOM itself will solely be located in KSA. After all KSA is not likely to pay to expand NEOM into Sinai and Jordan. I think that NEOM will connect (naturally) to Sinai and Jordan with the Egyptians and Jordanians themselves developing their own nearby areas. That would be logical at least.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/neom-project-the-egyptian-part.527435/
 
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call me old fashioned but there is a saying that water reclaim it's territory, all these projects in which land is claimed by pushing back water such as Dubai's globe etc are extremely dangerous especially with global warming and raising water levels
 
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We are all mortal and good thing it is so. My wife has already gone. I don't particularly want to live for long. Another decade to see my children consolidate their lives would be nice. I have done everything, almost. Good, bad and some terrible. I have some regrets but I cant fix them now. Non of us can go back in time. So death is kind of freedom waiting at the end. And that is nice.

We should not fear it providing we have done everything we wanted to. To not have lived is to fear death. But I have lived.Like I said another decade and I will go with a smile to my maker. Maybe even get to join my wife again!

Now that would be nice.
May you join your wife, when you die
 
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