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Why Saudi Arabia can't repel Iran's regional domination

Lol. Remember when Kurds voted for independence and were waving US and Israeli flags everywhere, thinking by being US and Israeli pawns, they will somehow be victorious?

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No help were to be found when PMU completely trashed them and Barzani had to flee like a rat.

Let this be a lesson for anyone that thinks, by being US and Zionist pawns, they will come to your aid when you need them.
 
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Lol. Remember when Kurds voted for independence and were waving US and Israeli flags everywhere, thinking by being US and Israeli pawns, they will somehow be victorious?

xxisraelkurds1-superJumbo.jpg


No help were to be found when PMU completely trashed them and Barzani had to flee like a rat.

Let this be a lesson for anyone that thinks, by being US and Zionist pawns, they will come to your aid when you need them.

LOLs at that picture !
 
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All examples u brought are wrong. I never said that US did not intervene in other countries. But US does not have its proxy militias like Iran (which has dozens) and so on.
Nooo, ofcourse not, the US and proxy war? Never happened in history.
''Just throw ''democratic'' in there somewhere'' and everything can be legitimized...


Its the Americans themselves saying it, not me.
 
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Nooo, ofcourse not, the US and proxy war? Never happened in history.
''Just throw ''democratic'' in there somewhere'' and everything can be legitimized...


Its the Americans themselves saying it, not me.
YPG is not any proxy militia created by US. They are just local allied force.
 
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Doesnt matter who created them, they are american proxy, not different to hezbollah.
You simply dont understand proxy concept.

For example Khamenaistic regime afraid to attack Israel directly. So they use their proxies: Hezbalshaytan and PIJ.
They want to attack Saudi oil installations. So they use proxy Houthi.

Now what it has to do with YPG? - Nothing
 
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You simply dont understand proxy concept.

For example Khamenaistic regime afraid to attack Israel directly. So they use their proxies: Hezbalshaytan and PIJ.
They want to attack Saudi oil installations. So they use proxy Houthi.

Now what it has to do with YPG? - Nothing

PIJ has nothing to do with Iranian agenda and only acts on behalf of Palestinians and you know this more than anyone. Don't put them in same category as Hezbollah. Hezbollah is interfering all over Arab world and working with Iran to topple Arab regimes and spread the Shia crescent.
 
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Letter from Ottoman Admiral Barbaros Hayrettin Pasa to Sultan about why he doesnt want Arabic soldiers under his command.
Interesting that this was like 500 years ago yet sounds so familiar.

''Arabs are a tribe that dont know the art of war. They think that roaming around in the desert is the same as doing war as an army. While even the kuffar Spaniards who know the art of war always lost in front of Turkish soldiers who knows what the Arabic tribes were thinking when standing in front of Turkish soldiers and getting devastated every time (this part was hard to translate). Because human life has no value for them. Instead of knowing their weakness and preparing they say ''everything comes from Allah'' and die stupidly. They have no good weapon. Even if they had they cant use them. They are not very good with fire arms. Their biggest reason for loosing is that they dont know how to fight as an orgnaized group.
My personal wish from Padishah is that i dont want Arabic soldiers under my command.

Interesting. Seems even back then, illiterate, desert bedouins were not trusted by anyone. Same is the case today. Killing each other or getting killed by others foolishly without much understanding on world politics....
 
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Saudi Arabia has failed to devise a long-term strategy in the region while decades of Iranian planning now bears fruit.

In the aftermath of the strike against the Saudi Arabian oil processing facility at Abqaiq, no one can be quite sure who exactly pulled the trigger. The Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen have claimed it was their drones. The United States has pointed the finger once again at Iranian involvement firing possible cruise missiles from southern Iraq and ruling out Yemeni involvement. Pompeo later claimed that US information confirms Baghdad's denial that its territory was used for the attack. Commenting on US allegations, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said that the US has 'failed at maximum pressure' are now turning to 'maximum deceit'.

What we can be sure about, however, is that Iran is standing in the middle of all this literally laughing as it is, in all likelihood, striking Saudi Arabia indirectly while Riyadh is completely incapable of retaliating in kind in any way, shape or form.

Saudi Arabia’s historical weakness

This is, of course, primarily a story about Saudi Arabian impotence.

The kings of Saudi Arabia have historically relied on others to fight their battles and have had little stomach to engage in power projection beyond their own borders.

In the early days of the Arab-Israeli conflict, Saudi leased its Red Sea islands of Tiran and Sanafir to Egypt in a bid to ensure that its territory was not linked to the newly-founded State of Israel and they, therefore, could absolve themselves of Arab expectations that they would join military efforts to fight against Israel.

In the 1980s, Saudi Arabia decided to throw its financial weight behind Saddam Hussein’s Iraq as it fought a bloody eight-year war with revolutionary Iran led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

Saudi royals could not care less about Arab solidarity but were instead petrified of the thought that Khomeini’s revolutionary political Shia Islam would lead to a hostile northern neighbour if Saddam fell, and would inflame passions amongst its own Shia population who inhabit the oil-rich Eastern Province of Saudi.

Those same fears are currently being played out as Iran spreads its influence across the Middle East, rattling Arab regimes like those in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and by turning Iraq into a compliant proxy state. Apart from Yemen, Bahrain is still one of the few times Saudi Arabia has actually deployed military force to project power.

When Iraq had successfully managed to stop the immediate spread of Khomeinism in 1988, Riyadh then facilitated American expansionism by working with Kuwait and the UAE to undercut Iraqi oil sales, produce oil in excess of OPEC quotas, and setting the stage for Saddam’s foolhardy invasion of Kuwait in 1990 by ensuring that, with a crippled war-time economy, Iraq could never stand its “million-man” army down without risk of massive unrest.

Riyadh then allowed the US military to deploy on its soil and, although it gave token participation in the military efforts to prise Saddam’s grip on Kuwait open, the Saudi military performed without distinction and was almost routed were it not for American protection.

No short-term fixes for long-term problems

However, the contemporary geopolitical scene in the Middle East is one of US retrenchment and limited but ever-increasing disengagement. This has lead to a chaotic regional power vacuum that no one has been able to fill, not even a resurgent Russia despite its determining role in Syria.

Riyadh can no longer simply throw money at a problem and hope it will go away, and their current problem is an ambitious Iran that has spent decades planning its regional ascension.

While Iran lets its proxies loose to wreak havoc with Saudi Arabian interests, Riyadh is scrambling for a way to respond and can find nothing outside of complaining to its Western masters and seek ever-larger arms purchases.

Even global oil production being cut by five percent in the aftermath of the latest strike on Abqaiq failed to stir any meaningful action. US President Donald Trump has suggested in his tweets that if Riyadh wants war against Iran, Washington would support it but it seems that Saudi Arabia would have to lead from the front with American-backing.

Saudi Arabia knows that any direct confrontation with Iran will lead to a calamitous defeat as it does not have the military capability to deal decisive blows to start and end a war quickly, and would face attacks not only from Iran but from its proxies in Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen, attacks it has no effective proxies of its own with which to counter with.

Saudi Arabia is encircled, its pampered population has no stomach or experience of war that affects the home front for an extended period of time, and there is absolutely nothing Riyadh can do about it short of praying for Uncle Sam to step in.

Had Riyadh invested in developing capacity and capability in groups that could balance against Iranian proxies in pivotally important countries such as Iraq, it would be able to directly challenge Tehran’s power. However, Saudi neglected to do this in favour of hanging onto American coattails and is now paying the price of short-sighted massive spending and attempting to curry favour with those who are already in Iran’s pocket such as Iraqi Shia cleric Moqtada al Sadr.

It is astounding that, for an absolute monarchy, Saudi Arabia has almost no long-term strategic planning. It is not as though Saudi officials need to worry about planning for elections every four or five years, so it is inexcusable that they are unable to muster up a decades-long strategy that will stabilise its borders and secure its interests both at home and abroad.

Whatever one may think about Iran and its expansionist agenda that has had destructive consequences for Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese and Yemenis, from a realpolitik perspective they must be praised. While its opponents lay at the mercy of powerful foreign backers, Tehran builds alliances with ascendant powers like Russia and China, but independently plots and plans and works hard to achieve its regional ambitions.

Iran has spent decades nurturing its proxies and has gradually extended its economic, cultural and military influence. Its strategy has borne fruit as it can now threaten retaliation against all its Arab rivals and the United States while it projects influence in major Arab capitals, including Damascus and Baghdad.

Rather than simply express hatred towards the Iranian regime, its Arab rivals could do worse than to show them some respect and learn a thing or two from them for their own sakes.

Link: https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/why-saudi-arabia-can-t-repel-iran-s-regional-domination-29845

Disclaimer: The viewpoints expressed by the authors do not necessarily reflect the opinions, viewpoints and editorial policies of TRT World.

Great article.

KSA has isolated itself in the Muslim world due to its arrogance.

Case and point, their treatment of Pakistan/Kashmir and their presence for India.

Iran is not much better, morally, but they are very intelligent and calculated people.

KSA should prepare for the time that West will ditch them, it is coming soon.

first time Arabs so Turkish people in todays Dagestan region against Khazar khagan and they lost the fight. came back after 10 years and lost the war again even though they had many times more forces..

Those same armies conquered Iran. Hazrat Omar RA gave up attacking the Ashkenazi Jews (Khazars.)

There are reasons for this. They are Yajuj Majuj.
 
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Great article.

KSA has isolated itself in the Muslim world due to its arrogance.

Case and point, their treatment of Pakistan/Kashmir and their presence for India.

Iran is not much better, morally, but they are very intelligent and calculated people.

KSA should prepare for the time that West will ditch them, it is coming soon.



Those same armies conquered Iran. Hazrat Omar RA gave up attacking the Ashkenazi Jews (Khazars.)

There are reasons for this. They are Yajuj Majuj.

Arabs vs Khazars usually ended in stalemates. Irony is it was the Turks that destroyed the Khazars who themselves were Turkic lmaoo. In Turkic history its always Turks destroying Turks. We just love fighting each other.

I cant deny the Arabs actually had the best armies from the Rashidun, Ummayad and the Abbassid Eras. Fatimid Era was also not bad.

When the Arabs were an empire they seem to be very formidable. After that era has passed the Arabs just could not replicate that era at all they withered away due to numerous factors.

Roman Empire conquered and had the best army of its time time and compare that to modern day Italy from its 1861 to the end of World War 2. Italians were embarassing if you compare it to the Roman Empire.

Khalid Bin Walid no doubt among my favourite commanders.
 
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Letter from Ottoman Admiral Barbaros Hayrettin Pasa to Sultan about why he doesnt want Arabic soldiers under his command.
Interesting that this was like 500 years ago yet sounds so familiar.


"Araplar, cenk sanatını bilmez bir kavimdirler. Çölde çapulculuk yapmakla ordu halinde cenk etmeyi aynı şey sanırlar. Cenk sanatını bilen İspanyol kafiri bile Türk leventlerine daima mağlup olagelmişken, hangi akılla bilinmez, bu Arap kabileleri olur olmaz yerde Türkler'in karşısına çıkıp perişan olurlar. Zira onlarda insan canı gayetle değersizdir. Kulluklarını bilip tedbir alacakları yerde, "her şey Allah'tandır" deyip budalaca ölürler. İyi silahları yoktur. Olsa da kullanamazlar. Ateşli silahlarla araları iyi değildir. Sonra en büyük mağlubiyet sebepleri şudur ki, kitle halinde döğüşmenin kaidelerini asla bilmezler. Padişah hazretlerinden bizzat ricamdır ki emrimizde arap leventi bulundurmayınız!''



''Arabs are a tribe that dont know the art of war. They think that roaming around in the desert is the same as doing war as an army. While even the kuffar Spaniards who know the art of war always lost in front of Turkish soldiers who knows what the Arabic tribes were thinking when standing in front of Turkish soldiers and getting devastated every time (this part was hard to translate). Because human life has no value for them. Instead of knowing their weakness and preparing they say ''everything comes from Allah'' and die stupidly. They have no good weapon. Even if they had they cant use them. They are not very good with fire arms. Their biggest reason for loosing is that they dont know how to fight as an orgnaized group.
My personal wish from Padishah is that i dont want Arabic soldiers under my command.

Wow seems very familiar :eek:

We seems to have imported alot of this mentality overtime
 
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You simply dont understand proxy concept.

For example Khamenaistic regime afraid to attack Israel directly. So they use their proxies: Hezbalshaytan and PIJ.
They want to attack Saudi oil installations. So they use proxy Houthi.

Now what it has to do with YPG? - Nothing
USA uses pkk and ypg to attack Turkish soldiers and terrorize Turkish citizen, i see no difference.
 
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